Name My Praetorian!

[The Widowed]

For once, Krypto and I kind of agree on something....

City of Villains draws nearer and nearer. We love our Heroes so much, and the Praetorians in the game have a pretty nifty storyline. So what seems to be the first thing that the players want to do? Create Praetorian versions of their own Heroes, of course.

The easiest part? Praetorian villians tend to have at least a passing resemblance to their normal, heroic counterparts; The same can be said of Praetorian heroes who are villains on Earth, a la the Carnival of Light.

So here's a nice thread where you can post the pics for your ideas of what your Praetorian should look like. Granted, the character generator for CoV will allegedly have more evil-looking options than CoH's character generator presently does, but try to come as close as you can.

And if you can't come up with a name for your own Praetorian, then here's where you can ask others for their input as well. Like so:

[The Widowed]

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/6198/PraeWid1.jpg
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/3953/PraeWid2.jpg
You get a cookie if you can guess whose Praetorian version this is. :D

The Cliff notes: On Praetorian Earth, she unreasoningly allowed her grief and her desire for vengeance to devour her restraint, and thus her zeal took a hateful turn. Her grim sense of humor--one of her defense mechanisms to steel herself against facing society's fiends so frequently--never manifested, leaving her to swallow all the strife and take it directly to her "happy place", and reducing her to only a doomsaying shadow of what she used to be. So driven and so demented with wrath, her standards for what defines a criminal continued to erode, even as her punishments for each crime worsened. And once you're beating shoplifters to death within sight of the stores they just fleeced, chances are you don't have a lot of humanity left. And from there, anyone who displeases you is a criminal, and must therefore be punished with all swiftness and finality so as not to repeat their crimes....

See where I'm going with this? :cool:

So, go ahead. The first person to come up with the perfect name for her gets a cookie. That or ten Single-Origin enhancements of your choice. :D

[Cold Quake]

Black Widow? Widow Maker?

All I got...

[Morcalivan7]

The Adultress - Though with the veil she looks more like a Courtesan Warrior.

[Solario]

Desolate Plains.
Old Maid.

[Charon]

Had my Praetorian planned for a while.

Styx:

Had the same backstory as Charon, except during the attack on his girlfriend and himself, a hero turned up to try and save them. During the ensuing firefight, the hero accidentally turned his powers on the girlfriend in the confusion, and killed her. Charon was knocked unconcious in the blast, and had the same delusion he would have had in this universe: Except Charon told him to take the name of the river into hell, and this time, he was to punish those responsible... the heroes who think they are above the law. This Charon uses all range of weaponry, including guns and anything else he can lay his hands on. His first villainous act was tracking down the hero responsible for his girlfriend's death, after 2 years in training, and killing him brutally. After that, he's simply become a hero killer for hire. You need him to kill a hero, and you will need him, it'll cost you.

Haven't made him in the hero creator because I wanna wait for CoV so I can be sat there going "WOW!" :D

EDIT: I like Widow Maker.... however she'd need an AK47 to complete the picture ;).

EDIT2: Or, infact, if you can grab the name, why not just go with "Grief" ?

[suburbanhell]

I agree I like Widow Maker too.

[ChairLegOfTruth]

Exsqueeze my ignorance; Praetorian Universe?

My highest level character is Special Brew @11 so I'm obviously not up to speed... in many senses of the word :grr:

[suburbanhell]

Exsqueeze my ignorance; Praetorian Universe?

My highest level character is Special Brew @11 so I'm obviously not up to speed... in many senses of the word :grr:

Praetorian Universe is like CoH Bizarro World -- all the heros are anti heros, etc...

[Sword]

Anti-heroes would mean they're good guys with questionable morals and methods. Like Spawn, Wolverine and Rorschach.

If I'm not mistaken, Praetorians are simply evil. Like "Reichman", the leader of Axis-America.

[suburbanhell]

Ah, yes, excuse me, it's early yet. It's the Super Villain version of the Super Heroes -- i.e. Swan = Black Swan, Statesman = Tyrant, Mynx = Bobcat, etc...

[Sword]

Hey, that's right, Tyrant is States counterpart on Preatorian Earth, so who the hell is Reichman?

Oh well, don't tell me. I'll play through the story arcs first.

[ChairLegOfTruth]

Praetorian Universe is like CoH Bizarro World -- all the heros are anti heros, etc...

Ah.

So Special Brew would be a killer and his nemises, Iron Brew, a Hero.

Deava an escapee from Hell rather than a former warden.

There wouldn't be a Praetorian Oscar Ohms, since he's already from another universe (although I can see a way it would work). Likewise with CLoT since he's a living continuum (he already is all possible alternatives of himself).

Got it.

[suburbanhell]

Hey, that's right, Tyrant is States counterpart on Preatorian Earth, so who the hell is Reichman?

Oh well, don't tell me. I'll play through the story arcs first.

I don't think I've encountered Reichman yet -- but then the only reason I know half this informaton is that I've been Portal hopping with Vendel & 8 Ball lately.

[Sword]

Yeah, I'm at lvl42 myself, so I'm about to get mixed up in all the Portal stuff, but I'm just not inspired to play my tank, since I have to get teams together all the time to take down AVs. At the moment I'm logged off infront of the door to the Carnie AV. Just Nemesis taught me that soloing AVs is not soemthing I'm built for.

[suburbanhell]

Yeah, I'm at lvl42 myself, so I'm about to get mixed up in all the Portal stuff, but I'm just not inspired to play my tank, since I have to get teams together all the time to take down AVs. At the moment I'm logged off infront of the door to the Carnie AV. Just Nemesis taught me that soloing AVs is not soemthing I'm built for.

But...thou art teh uber tank?

[Akamaz]

heh i've already got my praetorian versions of my toons worked out.

Akamaz- his praetorian version loves the berzerk fury. definately a brute Doom Wolf

Mikoto would become the assassin she was made to be, so i guess the "rogue" type with all the hide abilities (no name picked out yet)

Agent Q would turn all cthulu like and definately be a destroyer (dark/dark)
with a name like Drefygith

[Sun-Scarab]

Black Widow? Widow Maker?

All I got...

i agree with widow maker as a name.
she looks like she'd kill her husband,

unlike the goodie-goody wid' we all know.

[Masked Revenger]

I'd go with calling her Vengence, myself. It seems to fit more with her motivation, Widdo Maker is only a play on the CoH name.

I already posted my Preatorian character, the evil opposite of Captain Noble, Lord Malevolent. I haven't quite figured out his background yet, though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/BlanchPrez/CoH/LordMalevolentStanding.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/BlanchPrez/CoH/NoblevsMalevolent.jpg

Chris

[Xielos]

Didn't we go through this already? :P

I'll just repost what I put in the last thread:

Ooo, interesting idea. I guess RW would be all Freaked out with cyborg enhancments and more emphasis on the Rad Blast. Cables and blinky lights hanging out everywhere, etc. His entire lower half is completely robotic and almost tank like, but still has legs, as are his forearms, eyes, half his face, and neck. He has massive Force Field arrays on his back (think TV antenas) and his neck can sort of extend in a really creepy manner to face anyone shorter than him. All that and a creepy mechanized voice would make for a great villan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Xielos/lismovie-18.jpg

[Krypto]

Reichsman(notice the S), is from a dimension where Marcus Cole was born a Nazi or something, and fought for Truth, Justice, and the Nazi way! :P

[Jade_Dragon]

I've thought about what the Praetorian version of Bloodwolf would be like. And after thinking about it, I came to the conclusion that he wouldn't be changed at all. After all, in the Praetorian universe, the heroes are still "good guys", by their terms, it's just our POV that defines them as evil. In their own universe, they are the rulers, they set the laws and enforce them. And we can assume that there are "criminals" that they have to stop. (When they can't control them)

So we can assume that Bloodwolf, with his all-consuming hatred of those who abuse their power, would have focused on those who HAVE power, and ARE abusing it, in this world. If it had been a "hero" who killed his wife and framed him for it, so much the better, but it doesn't really matter. Like Charon's Styx, he has actually become a "hero killer" in a world of villainous "heroes". In other words, if the heroes are villains, then the villains are heroes.

Likely, he would be a major part of a rebellion against Tyrant. Even more than in this universe, he would be constantly on the run, keeping to the shadows so his true whereabouts can never be known. Unlike our Bloodwolf, though, he's got no qualms about killing. He's going up against super powered foes, without any powers of his own, so he strikes first, and strikes to kill. He can't touch Tyrant and his allies, of course, but he can kill their lackeys, and leave his mark as a warning. And if any innocents get in the way, well, that's just the price of war.

Jade Dragon and Blue Diamond would be more interesting. I've thought about changing their backstory so that Silver Bolt recruits some help, and he and a couple of villains gain the majority of the powers, while only B.D. is left as the one hero of the four. I may use that for my Silver Bolt on the server where I will play him as a villain. Since I can't play more than one character at the same time, there's no reason for my Silver Bolt to go up against my Jade Dragon, so I will probably put them on different servers.

But that's not the same as the Praetorian universe. The Praetorians aren't different people with the same powers, they're the same people, but evil. So J.D. and B.D. themselves would have had to turn evil. It's interesting to speculate about. Perhaps Silver Bolt killed Michelle, so Blue Diamond went crazy and beat him to death. And if Jade Dragon had the same sense of "law and order" as the other Praetorians, then the two of them could join the ranks of Tyrant and company. But there's really nothing original there.

The one that would be really sad would have to be Sandy. It would be something like if the original Sandy from my fanfic had never met Steppenwolf, who became her friend and gave her a sense of worth. Perhaps instead of arriving in time to free her, Sandy's father was killed. Without her father to stabilize the spread of the implants in her body, they went out of control, and left her an even more extreme mix of human and machine. She went mad, and is now just a mindless killing machine, destroying all life that crosses her path. "Angel of Death" would be an appropriate name for her...

[Jade_Dragon]

Oh, I should also add that it's ironic that I can finally have my shapechanging character have an animal form, but he will have to be a villain! So it looks like Michelle Betrand as Genie Gold will still have the fourth power on the hero side, but I may actually be able to create Element Dog on the villain side.

I've gone to so much trouble to develop Michelle's character, that maybe that's a good thing...

[Kurai Inago]

Heh, I got bored one day and thought about the whole praetoran thing. (AKA Costumes, backstories, villian to villian relations) I personally think Widow Maker would work fine. Praetoran Sonic would still be a mercinary, and would wield Dual Pistols. As I mentioned Villian to Villain relations, I can only remember one, and that's the fact that Praetoran Wids and Sonic are bitter enemies. I had alot more but I can't remember...... Anywho, costume soon.

[Randomus]

I think the Praetorian version of Widowed should be "The Happy Married" or "The Nagging Wife". Opposites and all that. ;)

[Sun-Scarab]

I think the Praetorian version of Widowed should be "The Happy Married" or "The Nagging Wife". Opposites and all that. ;)


that's one powerful villian!
i don't know about you but I'd be easily done in by the pie baking power set of that home maker

[Kurai Inago]

Sadly I think if you took the whole joke thing away from that, it might work (Not as the Happy Houswife or whatever) But wasn't Wid's husband a cop? So wouldn't he be alive and a Criminal in Praetoran reality?

[Masked Revenger]

Hey Widdowed! I just realized you got the name for your Praetorian right in your sig... the Stalker!

Chris

[The Widowed]

Hey Widdowed! I just realized you got the name for your Praetorian right in your sig... the Stalker!
Of course, Stalker is also the CoV Archetype which corresponds to the Scrapper in CoH.... ;)

I'm leaning towards Widowmaker, or however I can spell it to get around all the people who most likely chose that name already. Let's see what I can come up with. ;)

[The Widowed]

Widowmaker: Taken
Widow Maker: Taken
Widow-Maker: Taken
Widow-maker: Taken
Widow.Maker: OK

I hate using periods in the middle of a name. I'm gonna erase her and try Grief. :grr:

[Masked Revenger]

Widowmaker: Taken
Widow Maker: Taken
Widow-Maker: Taken
Widow-maker: Taken
Widow.Maker: OK

I hate using periods in the middle of a name. I'm gonna erase her and try Grief. :grr:

Vengeance! Go for Vengeance! :P

Chris

[The Widowed]

Grief: Taken
WidoW-Maker: Taken
WidoWMakeR: Taken

I get the feeling that the names aren't case-sensitive as far as repetition-sensing goes.

These people are tenacious! I guess Widowmaker in any form is out. Grief didn't work, either. And I'm not touching Happily Married or Adultress with a ten-foot pole. :p

Maybe it's Virtue. Damn it. What's next on the list?

[Charon]

I wouldn't worry about it, I figure CoV will have a different name database to CoH.

[Xanatos]

Just so everyone is clear on the whole Praetorian backstory - they're nto all from the same planet. A good number of them come from Tyrant's (evil states) home planet. But some come from other planets. (Such as Battle Maiden)

So you don't have to be from Praetorian Earth to be a Praetorian. (Might give people a bit more creative freedom.)

[Jade_Dragon]

Grief: Taken
WidoW-Maker: Taken
WidoWMakeR: Taken

I get the feeling that the names aren't case-sensitive as far as repetition-sensing goes.

I don't believe case is important. Spaces or characters between names are. However, I'm pretty sure "Jade Dragon" is the same as "jade dragon" or "JadE DragoN". I think I tried a bunch of variations when I was trying to find out which servers the name was claimed on.

[Jade_Dragon]

Just so everyone is clear on the whole Praetorian backstory - they're nto all from the same planet. A good number of them come from Tyrant's (evil states) home planet. But some come from other planets. (Such as Battle Maiden)

So you don't have to be from Praetorian Earth to be a Praetorian. (Might give people a bit more creative freedom.)

However, the other planets are the alternates of those planets in the Praetorian universe, right?

Multiverses are so much fun... :D

[Xanatos]

I think all of the planets are all alternates of OUR planet. So..yes but no but yes but... :P

[Jade_Dragon]

I think all of the planets are all alternates of OUR planet. So..yes but no but yes but... :P

Oh. Okay, so that means that Battle Maiden comes from an alternate Earth, but not the Praetorian Earth, but found her way to the Praetorian Earth somehow and joined up with them.

My head hurts. :D Okay, Battle Maiden is the counterpart to Valkyrie, right? So what Earth does Valkyrie come from? (looks it up) Hm. Okay, she's from Earth, but her spear could be from another dimension or an advanced civilization. And it's changed her personality, so presumably she's being changed into one of those people from that other dimension.

Don't see how that fits Battle Maiden's backstory. Maybe there are variations, though. More severe than just, "It's the same guy, only evil".

[The Widowed]

Vengeance: Taken
Revenge: Taken
Malice: Taken
Penance: Taken
Black Widow: Taken
Scourge: Taken
The Bereft: Taken
Retribution: Taken
Castigation: OK

So what do you think? Take it or leave it?

[Yin]

Just so everyone is clear on the whole Praetorian backstory - they're nto all from the same planet. A good number of them come from Tyrant's (evil states) home planet. But some come from other planets. (Such as Battle Maiden)

So you don't have to be from Praetorian Earth to be a Praetorian. (Might give people a bit more creative freedom.)

Praetorian Merewether. :P

I'm not too concerned about reserving Yang. I still don't understand why everyone is trying to reserve names on City of Heroes. Have the Devs stated that they'll transfer? Doesn't make much sense to me. If I can't get Yang there are other variations. Heh. (Yang. Yang- -Yang Yang' Yang'g) You know. The standard bootleg types.

[Masked Revenger]

How about Widow Black?

Chris

[vyxzuw]

To get an idea about how Praetorians work in a DC sense. Look up the CSA. (Criminal Syndicate of America. The Earth 2/1 whatever, version of the JLA.)

[Got]

http://bvs.raventhorneenterprises.com/forumart/gottroll.jpg

Boo!

[Jade_Dragon]

To get an idea about how Praetorians work in a DC sense. Look up the CSA. (Criminal Syndicate of America. The Earth 2/1 whatever, version of the JLA.)

Earth-3. They were pretty much all destroyed in Crisis on Infinite Earths, one of the first universes we saw destroyed. (unless they've been brought back post-Crisis)

[Masked Revenger]

Earth-3. They were pretty much all destroyed in Crisis on Infinite Earths, one of the first universes we saw destroyed. (unless they've been brought back post-Crisis)

They have, there was a Elseworlds book called Earth 2 about them.

Chris

[The Icy One]

My Praetorian version of Psy-Beetle is plainly him reaching his prime.. he never develops a real name and never creates the Psy-Beetle alias, he is a number.. and the ruler of his fellow experiments, most not of their own will. The story of how both Symbol of Life and my Praetorian get to this universe will be told in A Symbol of Life.

[WingedAvenger]

Wasn't the "Reichsman" changed to "Tyrant" to go along with that whole "5th Column hurts sales in Europe so let's get rid of them and replace them with the Council" thing?

[Jade_Dragon]

Wasn't the "Reichsman" changed to "Tyrant" to go along with that whole "5th Column hurts sales in Europe so let's get rid of them and replace them with the Council" thing?

No, the Praetorians aren't the same thing as the "Nazi Universe" where Reichsman comes from. Plus, Reichsman is being kept in suspended animation in Freedom Corps Headquarters or something like that.

[Poison]

Got, that pic is sweet!

Widdy, just to reassure, names are not case sensitive. Ingame, I can send a tell to Widowed or widowed, both times you'll get it. Castigation is cool, but doesn't have that nice a ring to it... Keep trying though! I had "Adroit" for my archer, but knew I wouldn't use that name, so I deleted it and looked again. And behold, I got "Accuracy". So not all cool names are taken.

Since you want the lashing kind and like military style, how about "Corporal Punish"? Or "Biocide" (the killing of living material), "Mariticide" (killer of one's husband as opposed to Widowed).

[Yin]

Praetorian Merewether. :P

I'm not too concerned about reserving Yang. I still don't understand why everyone is trying to reserve names on City of Heroes. Have the Devs stated that they'll transfer? Doesn't make much sense to me. If I can't get Yang there are other variations. Heh. (Yang. Yang- -Yang Yang' Yang'g) You know. The standard bootleg types.

Anyone have an answer for this?

[Tarkenchi]

Anyone have an answer for this?
I really doubt they will let you transfer names, but i think people are saving them now, so if someone wants to have the same name, you have it first, and when you want to create your char, you just delete him and vwalla, name is free!

[Poison]

I think Mina asked about the naming business in the "ask Statesman about CoV" thread (I think she asked if there could be a hero and villain with the same name), but he didn't answer. I guess it's undecided yet. Remember how the naming business went shortly before launch, a nightmare.

[Randomus]

I'm telling you, she should be happily married but evil. It would be awesome. Bakes cookies with strychnine, muffins with cyanide. Man. Scariest villain ever.

[Naked Dwarf]

Praetorian Merewether. :P

I'm not too concerned about reserving Yang. I still don't understand why everyone is trying to reserve names on City of Heroes. Have the Devs stated that they'll transfer? Doesn't make much sense to me. If I can't get Yang there are other variations. Heh. (Yang. Yang- -Yang Yang' Yang'g) You know. The standard bootleg types.

I have Praetorian Michi. Named her Namazu after the Catfish in Japanese legend that creates Earthquakes. Kinda fun playing her as a tanker. Rather than becoming one with the Earth and gently manipulating it as an ally, Namazu uses her powers for selfish reasons and forces it to protect her and unleashes her attacks in more violent ways.

ND

[Yin]

I have Praetorian Michi. Named her Namazu after the Catfish in Japanese legend that creates Earthquakes. Kinda fun playing her as a tanker. Rather than becoming one with the Earth and gently manipulating it as an ally, Namazu uses her powers for selfish reasons and forces it to protect her and unleashes her attacks in more violent ways.

ND

That was you?! Lol! Thinking of making Yang Dark/Dark Defender or Scrapper in CoH. CoV who knows.

[The Widowed]

Got, that pic is sweet!

Widdy, just to reassure, names are not case sensitive. Ingame, I can send a tell to Widowed or widowed, both times you'll get it. Castigation is cool, but doesn't have that nice a ring to it... Keep trying though! I had "Adroit" for my archer, but knew I wouldn't use that name, so I deleted it and looked again. And behold, I got "Accuracy". So not all cool names are taken.

Since you want the lashing kind and like military style, how about "Corporal Punish"? Or "Biocide" (the killing of living material), "Mariticide" (killer of one's husband as opposed to Widowed).
Ooh, Mariticide!

*writes it down*

I think that one might be the winner...provided it's not taken already, that is. :rolleyes:

[PsionicGypsy]

Hmmm, Widowed, I was just sitting here at my computer and thinking of a possible variant to your name. If I'm correct, your name is The Widowed. I was thinking maybe you could go with the following:

A Widowmaker

or

Da Widowmaker

Or maybe make her French and give her

Le Widowmaker

Just some thoughts...

[Rottweiler]

...and vwalla...

Best phonetic spelling of voila ever.

[The Widowed]

Hmmm, Widowed, I was just sitting here at my computer and thinking of a possible variant to your name. If I'm correct, your name is The Widowed. I was thinking maybe you could go with the following:

A Widowmaker

or

Da Widowmaker

Or maybe make her French and give her

Le Widowmaker

Just some thoughts...
Well, she's not French--I leave all the Frenchness to Alumette :D--but what would the French translation of "widow maker" be?

[Quakester]

Well, she's not French--I leave all the Frenchness to Alumette :D--but what would the French translation of "widow maker" be?

According to a Website it's fabricant de veuve

[Poison]

Witwenmacher in German.

[Solario]

And then in a obscure language (danish):

"Enkemager" or "Enke Skaber".

[Dynamo-Man]

MAsked Revenger introduced me to this idea, though I'm not sure this is the thread he was talking about. So, I came up with the dark version of Dynamo-Man.

In Dynamo-Man's background, he is a drifter named Joe Steinbeck, hitchhiking through the midwest, when a damaged spacecraft crashes in a field near him. When he investigates, he finds an alien whose physiology is half-energy half matter. And he is dying. He "tells" Joe about an impending alien invasion. He then transfers his energy half into Joe and dies.

So, I thought well, why was his ship damaged? I figured he was shot down by one of the invading aliens. So what if the invading alien had landed instead of the light alien? So, in the alternate universe, this is what happened, and the dying alien transfers his dark powers to Joe, and his hatred and desire for domination.

And thus is born Dark Dynamo.

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/5053/darkdynamo1tv.jpg http://img159.echo.cx/img159/6498/dynamomancohnew3yc.jpg

(He's a dark/Dark Scrapper, as opposed to D-Man being a Inv/SS Tanker)

[Major Britain]

Oberst Britain

From Reichsman's alternate world, currently stranded on "our" world. He is slowly making his way to the Rogue Isles as we speak.

[The Widowed]

Witwenmacher in German.
Hmmm...maybe.

And then in a obscure language (danish):

"Enkemager" or "Enke Skaber".
Hmmm...no. :P

[Solario]

Hmmm...maybe.


Hmmm...no. :P

Hehe suprise surprise. ;) :D