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MikeKAY
05-24-2005, 04:22 PM
Sword killer sparks weapons call
A judge has raised concerns about the sale of dangerous weapons after a man killed a neighbour with a crossbow and a sword he bought by mail order.

Robert Boyer was detained in hospital indefinitely after killing Keith Frogson in Annesley Woodhouse, Notts.

Boyer, 43, diagnosed as suffering from a delusional mental illness, admitted attacking Mr Frogson last July.

Sentencing Boyer on Tuesday, Judge Mr Justice Bean called for tighter laws to govern the sale of similar weapons.

He said: "I must record my concern that it is possible for a crossbow and a ninja sword, both of which being weapons which you used in this crime, can be bought by mail order without any licence being required and without a proper record of who bought them.

"I respectfully suggest that this is a matter which the home secretary may wish to consider if legislation is to be introduced in this session of parliament concerning knives and offensive weapons."

Boyer from Skegby Road in the village, pleaded guilty at an earlier hearing to manslaughter and arson in relation to a subsequent fire at Mr Frogson's home.

Following the street attack, Boyer fled to a hideout he had prepared in readiness by a golf course in Sherwood Forest.

Andrew Easteal, prosecuting, told Nottingham Crown Court that Boyer became fixated with Mr Frogson and was convinced he was trying to dismantle his house and damage his property.

He ordered the weapons, for less than £150, and then watched violent films such as Kill Bill and Blade to learn how to use them.

Boyer, wearing a balaclava, waited in an alleyway outside Mr Frogson's home before shooting him with a crossbow and attacking him with the swords following a row in a pub.

"I fully endorse the judge's comments around the use of swords and crossbows"
Wayne Frogson, victim's son

Mr Frogson, a popular National Union of Mineworkers activist, was left with 30 injuries across his body, including many to his hands and arms as he desperately tried to defend himself, the court heard.

Outside court Mr Frogson's three children released a statement.

Wayne Frogson said: "He is a cowardly and ruthless killer.

"While no sentence can make up for losing dad we can draw strength from the fact that Robert Boyer no longer poses a threat to the community.

"I fully endorse the judge's comments around the use of swords and crossbows."

The court was told there were no previous indicators that Boyer was capable of killing, or revealed the extent of his mental illness.

Boyer's retreat to a foxhole on Hollinwell Golf Course sparked one of the biggest manhunts in the history of Nottinghamshire Police.

Despite the search he had returned to his village twice, once to set fire to Mr Frogson's home and once to visit takeaways for food.
Link. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/nottinghamshire/4574965.stm)

Oh you lovable Brits and your alternate methods of murder. Wasn't it a sledge hammer in public not long ago? BAN HAND TOOLS! :P

I love how they blamed Kill Bill and Blade. Priceless.

Amoeba Man
05-24-2005, 05:16 PM
The fact of the matter is that if someone really wants to kill you they'll find a way. I mean I could go to a package store, come out and make a Molotov cocktail, throw it at someone and kill them. Do we then blame the death on the ease with which I purchased the alcohol? :rolleyes:

Tsarmina
05-24-2005, 06:00 PM
*looks down at letter opener* >:] MUahahahahaa! *sneaks around looking for someone to stabby-stab* I also carry a few extra ink pens just in case... and a nail file.

Randomus
05-24-2005, 07:11 PM
Whatever happened to beating a man to death with your bare hands?

I miss the old days.

Tsarmina
05-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Pffft. And risk breaking a nail??? :eyebrow:
Now kicking someone to death is another option. Makes great use of them pointy shoes.

Xielos
05-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Wow, just one incident and they call for new laws? Brits sure are fast...

But even I have to agree, it is as easy to go into a shop and buy a katana, crossbow, knife, or taser as it is to buy a jar of Cheez Wiz. Hell, I brought a pen knife to school I bought for $9 and no one suspected a thing, untill it fell out of the sheath of course.....

MikeKAY
05-24-2005, 09:57 PM
Wow, just one incident and they call for new laws? Brits sure are fast...

But even I have to agree, it is as easy to go into a shop and buy a katana, crossbow, knife, or taser as it is to buy a jar of Cheez Wiz. Hell, I brought a pen knife to school I bought for $9 and no one suspected a thing, untill it fell out of the sheath of course.....

The thing is that its like they were blissfully ignorant that there exists OTHER ways to kill a person! When someone actually uses one of those other ways its like someone set off a pack of firecrackers in a pitch black, sound proof room. Beyond that, the absurdity of the laws passed in a jiffy make it look like they **** themselves from the firecrackers.