City of Heroes Comic Issue #1

[Randomus]

Just got the first Top Cow issue today.

It was fairly good. I always like Waid's writing. The power dampeners are a neat plot device, so it should lead to some interesting stories until they get that fixed up.

Glad to see those crazy surviving heroes in action here at least, seeing as they never do anything else. I wonder what this storyline will mean for the game, if anything.

[MikeKAY]

Weren't these supposed to be hosted online this time around? :eyebrow:

[suburbanhell]

Why do I somehow think I won't see this for at least a few months...

[Masked Revenger]

Why do I somehow think I won't see this for at least a few months...

I know I'll see it before then... at my local comic store.

Chris

[Fantasmo]

I know I'll see it before then... at my local comic store.

Chris

Yep, I bought mine at the local comic shop.
I'm glad they are covering these heroes now. I was expecting that before and was disappointed. So this is a welcome change.

[Extractor]

Glad to see those crazy surviving heroes in action here at least, seeing as they never do anything else. I wonder what this storyline will mean for the game, if anything.

Agreed.

They could at least give the trianers one or two basic power animations and have them act like the police drones! Somethings just not right when you get killed (err, defeated) by an ambush or train right in front of one trainers!!

[Magna Harrier]

Great comic... well, a heck of a lot better than the origional, at least. As with anything that kicks off a plot arc, the first issue was more "expository stuff happens" than anything, but hopefully that's all taken care of.
From a writing standpoint, though, it's a shame they did'nt show us the Freedom Phalanx working together more effectively before all this happened. Cause, outside of a few trailers and such, this is the first I've seen them acting as a team, and the comic does'nt paint a very good picture. With good reason... they just went through hell. But still.

[Sword]

Damn how I hate not getting the comic.

Wasn't there talk of an online solution of soem kind?

[Jade_Dragon]

They could at least give the trianers one or two basic power animations and have them act like the police drones! Somethings just not right when you get killed (err, defeated) by an ambush or train right in front of one trainers!!

Actually, that's an EXTREMELY good idea. There have been many times I've been attacked while deciding on what Power to take or slot. I suspect people train MOBs on those spots, too, just for that reason.

[vyxzuw]

The problem with having the trainers fight, is not all of them have range attacks.

While it's easy, for say, Positron to just blast guys near him, others like Ms. Liberty, don't have range attacks (being a scrapper). Which would mean they would have to MOVE to attack, and that would disrupt those trying to train.

(A solution, though, would be to have a freedom corp hero around some of them, which would do a similar job.)

(Also, some heros are by another hero. So, while Valkyrie has only melee attacks, Positron can help out.)

[Noble]

I hope that seeing the surviving 8 in action will change my opinion about them. But, until I do see such a thing, I still hope they die.

[The Widowed]

Another good thing about the "Trainers attack bad guys" idea would be that the much-neglected Blue Steel might finally get a little more press time after a few people see him kick ass. I never understood if he would attack by bashing with his shield or drawing a firearm of some kind.

I hope that seeing the surviving 8 in action will change my opinion about them. But, until I do see such a thing, I still hope they die.
Why? I see nothing wrong with CoH's flagship heroes. They're pretty, they train folks, they have neat backstories...they just don't hit or blast anything, that's all. O_o

[vyxzuw]

You'll be more impressed with them when they smack your CoV character around...

[Extractor]

The problem with having the trainers fight, is not all of them have range attacks.
True. But they could just give them some fear affects, not talking about the Fear power of Mind control or Dark powers but the affect that happens when any mob see's a hero of much higher level: they run away.

(A solution, though, would be to have a freedom corp hero around some of them, which would do a similar job.)
That would be fine.

It's just that 1) it should be a 'safe place' around trainers and especially around the surviving eight and 2) this game needs more player/enviornment interaction.

[Jade_Dragon]

and 2) this game needs more player/enviornment interaction.

Well, THAT goes without saying... :D Limitation of the medium, of course, but advances are being made every day. I would like to see CoH make some of those advances. :D

[Akamaz]

exactly, I want to jump on top of a speeding truck!

[Malibu Sally]

I officially hate all of you who have the new comic. I am still waiting on #11 of the old series. :mad:

[Plasma Wisp]

In the same boat with Sally. I got #12 though

[doc thunder]

i just got mine. its made on the same cheap paper as the blue king studio.
to anyone whom bought an issue is the quality better.

[Solario]

Damn how I hate not getting the comic.

Wasn't there talk of an online solution of soem kind?

Hey Sword, you're danish too right? If you really want it, do the same thing as me (I'm not playing the game though), and go down to Farao's Cigar or Fantask and buy it, it's about 30 kroner, so, while a bit on the steep end, it's affortable.

[Lawmaker]

There was a statement about it being available online eventually...

However as Top Cow is a for-profit organization, and the CoH comic is being sold in stores, I don't think it's will be available online for at least a month after the release date of the comic. Sucks, but that's business for the comic book world...

[Sword]

Hey Sword, you're danish too right? If you really want it, do the same thing as me (I'm not playing the game though), and go down to Farao's Cigar or Fantask and buy it, it's about 30 kroner, so, while a bit on the steep end, it's affortable.

Hehe, close. Norwegian. But I'll have to have a word with my comic book shop to see what they can do.

[Poison]

I've been getting my comics from my comic store, too, Sword. It's in the Previews catalogue, they should be able to order it.

Today I picked up #12 and the new #1. #12 is evil, I don't like the ending at all and that one pic of Warwitch's face... eew, thanks a lot. And the dialogue is the worst ever, what's with Requiem and his yellow, squishy line? Only part I laughed at was "lv15 Scrapper LFT". I love the new #1 though, it's well written, has good art and it's nice to find out more about the Surviving8.

[Randomus]

Well, most melee sets have a ranged power as it is. They don't necessarily have to move to attack.

[vyxzuw]

Well, most melee sets have a ranged power as it is.

Eh?

Back Street Brawler: MA...any range?
Ms. Liberty: BS...any range?

I suppose they could have Epic range attacks. (Shurikens?)

[Malibu Sally]

Eh?

Back Street Brawler: MA...any range?
Ms. Liberty: BS...any range?

I suppose they could have Epic range attacks. (Shurikens?)
Why not? Anything to marginalize blasters even more. :grr:

[vyxzuw]

Why not? Anything to marginalize blasters even more.

And how is letting the trainers (who are lvl 50, or higher) use a range attack to protect heroes marginalizing to blasters?

Both of those heroes are in the LOW level zone.

And shuriken IS an epic power. (doesn't do all that much damage, but a 50, attack a lvl 6, would certainly blow em to heck)

Please don't make a discussion on how to make the trainer areas into safe zone, by realistically using the heroes (via the sets that they are supposed to have) into a debate on the situation on blasters.

[Kinetix]

Are the comics online yet?

[Astartus]

Are the comics online yet?

No, not yet (if they ever will be put online) :grr:

[doc thunder]

Are the comics online yet?

I think that was just a joke. not sure if the comics will be online.

[suburbanhell]

Got it yesterday -- this ends at a bad point imo, maybe a few extra pages to get from point a to point b would've been nice....

[Tsarmina]

I officially hate all of you who have the new comic. I am still waiting on #11 of the old series. :mad:
My #11 had never arrived so I emailed support and they sent me another one. It arrived after I got #12.
I expect to get isssue 1 some time next week.... I hope. :look:

[Magna Harrier]

I have'nt seen anything since issue #12. I JUST bought issue 11 from my local store... he has no #12. And I picked up #1 of the new series from another store, just to hedge my bets. (Some guy came and bought EVERY copy from the store I usually go to. I know it might seem wrong of the owner to sell them all to one guy, but he's the archetypical struggling store owner.... works part time as a waiter... has a newborn kid,etc. So he can't be too controlling with how he regulates selling.)

[Randomus]

Back Alley Brawler is Energy Melee, isn't he? Either way, I'm sure he could just throw something. I didn't know Ms. Liberty was BS.

[Yin]

Quick question. In this comic, are the following Surviving 8 in it:

Citadel
Positron
Numina
Back Alley Brawler

If so, is it possible that someone can just scan the pages they are on and send them to me via email? I need the images for our upcoming Guru site. Thanks. :)

[vyxzuw]

Energy Melee doesn't have any range either. (He could always use Hurl...From superstrength)

Ms. Libery uses a sword. It's not really a BS or Kat. (Neither have a range.) She could use a Shuriken, though. (Or maybe a throwing dagger...that'd be cool.)
***
Back Alley Brawler is in Issue 12 of the old comic. (Use it until he makes an appearance.)

Positron SHOULD be in the comic, as he'll be a regular.

[doc thunder]

Quick question. In this comic, are the following Surviving 8 in it:

Citadel- nope
Positron- in issue
Numina- nope
Back Alley Brawler- nope


first issue, manitcore, sister psyche, synapse, positron, statesman.
23 pages.

[Magna Harrier]

We ought to hash out a spoiler warning period for this series... looks like, at least according to Cryptic, it hits stores, then will supposedly get to subscribers a week later. I can't testify... still waiting on mine. But shall we just agree to spoiler warning cuts until about two weeks after retail release?

[Noble]

Why? I see nothing wrong with CoH's flagship heroes. They're pretty, they train folks, they have neat backstories...they just don't hit or blast anything, that's all. O_o

[start rant]

Them not hitting or blasting anything IS my problem with them. Aside from the new comics they have never done anything after the war. All I am saying is that the Freedom Phalanx should reform and go off and do their thing. The city has more than enough lvl 50 heroes to train the young do gooders, so why not have player made heroes but submitted to Cryptic to be judged for who would possibly fill in for the Suriving 8 so they actually be exciting again.

The biggest thing that bothers me is that heroes with incredible powers would never, ever sit around just to train some low level newbies how to use their powers when the big boys are needed on the front lines. Statesman didn't sit on his backside and train new heroes during the Ritki War, or WWII. In fact, Statesman still doesn't train anyone because he is always getting captured by Tyrant. I certainly hope that all changes comehow when CoV comes out, but I doubt it will because there is a badge involved :mad:.

[end rant]

You'll be more impressed with them when they smack your CoV character around...

Actually, from the point of view of a villain it would just make me hate them more. Besides, I'll just team-up with Dark and Morc, and we'll mop the floor with them.

[doc thunder]

[start rant]

Them not hitting or blasting anything IS my problem with them. Aside from the new comics they have never done anything after the war.

they have been training new heroes. and if you see the trailers they are battling lord recluse.

[Noble]

Sure they always do something in trailers, and now in the comics, but when was the last time they did anything in the game?

[vyxzuw]

They may be. Your character only really goes around ParagonCity. (And Stirga, and some Alternate Dimensions.)

So, who's fighting crime in Europe? Or Asia? etc. Perhaps, that's why you don't see Statesman...he's VERY VERY busy...

[Yin]

Someone care to scan a good image of both Synapse and Positron? Thanks.

[Noble]

So, who's fighting crime in Europe? Or Asia? etc. Perhaps, that's why you don't see Statesman...he's VERY VERY busy...

Or always getting captured by Tyrant.

[doc thunder]

Someone care to scan a good image of both Synapse and Positron? Thanks.

preview from ign.com ( note spoiler warning only open if you want to.)
http://media.comics.ign.com/articles/606/606910/img_2734127.html

[Randomus]

I'm pretty sure Ms. Liberty is a controller, but that's just based on fights with Dominatrix. Sword might be decoration.

Brawler could just get a really big version of Whirling Hands.

[Maveric]

http://coh.warcry.com/index.php/content/compendium/trainers.php?id=1

Secret Identity: Jessica Duncan
Origin: Natural
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers: Martial Arts, Invulnerability
Zone: Atlas Park
Location: She is located in Atlas Plaza in front of the statue of Atlas.

Background: Jessica is the granddaughter of the original Miss Liberty from the Golden Age. She has taken up the mantle to fight for freedom, in this specific case to free Paragon City from its infestation of villains. She has heightened strength and endurance as well as the power of the Liberty Belt, which was passed on to her by her grandmother.

Early in her career Ms. Liberty worked extensively with Statesman, but recently seems to be spending more time working on making certain that new heroes in Paragon City have the information they need, as well as working on the Freedom Corps. It is clear that she is determined to do her energetic best to make the Freedom Corps the premiere hero assistance group in Paragon City someday.

not sure but i think in the official forums one of the devs posted an updated list of corrections. Ms. Liberty probably does use a broadsword now...

[Maveric]

Found it. It was Manticore who posted the updated/revised corrections to the info already previously known about the surviving eight...

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=general&Number=2742818&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2723969&Search=true&where=&Name=739&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post2742818

Ms. Liberty is the granddaughter of Maiden Justice and the daughter of Miss Liberty. Her first name is Megan, not Jessica. More information about her connection to Statesman will also be found in The Web of Arachnos.

Greetings,
The Surviving Eight are: Statesman, Positron, Synapse, Sister Psyche, Citadel, Manticore, Numina and Back Alley Brawler. They all agreed to remain in Paragon City after the Rikti War, to coordinate the efforts of the new heroes arriving every day.
Ms. Liberty is in fact Statesman's Sidekick but she leads a group of heroes herself. They are called the Vindicators: Minx, Valkyrie, Swan, Infernal, Luminary and most recently Aurora Borealis.


hope this clears things up...

-Mav

[The Widowed]

They didn't mention Blue Steel anywhere in there, either.

I like Blue Steel. :(

[8 Ball]

They didn't mention Blue Steel anywhere in there, either.

I like Blue Steel. :(


He's not officially part of "The surviving 8" or what have ya. He was basically a late Beta addition because players wanted a trainer in Kings row :D.

[Maveric]

been reading the posts by manitcore an learned some things I didn't know...
Greetings,
Please remember that Statesman has had a long career. Although he began as a Tanker his powers have evolved to Incarnate status.
~M
Greetings,
Statesman does not currently have a girlfriend.
Many of the questions posted here will be answered in the upcoming novel The Web of Arachnos . It will be released this fall and will reveal details about Statesman's life and Origin, as well as his connection to Lord Recluse.
Cheers.
~M
(in reference to Statesman being the same guy in the Intro video or just a mantle that has been passed down generation to generation...) It is the same man, Statesman is immortal. Look for more details about his origin, his powers and how he is tied to Lord Recluse this fall in the upcoming novel: The Web of Arachnos.
~M

so is manticore like the official historian for CoH? Whatever happened to the pre-beta forum guy who used to chronical the history of CoH... he was from austrailia... can't remember... is he still around? anyone else have a history guide to CoH posted anywhere, and why not on this site?


blah blah, i know put up or shut up... :P

-Mav

[Tsarmina]

You mean Boxhead??

[Poison]

He's not officially part of "The surviving 8" or what have ya. He was basically a late Beta addition because players wanted a trainer in Kings row :D.
Actually the Backalley Brawler used to be in KR and Galaxy City didn't even exist, but the testers said it would be better if there was another starting zone for lowbies. So the Brawler changed his zone and KR was the only trainerless city zone for a while.

"The Australian" was named Boxhead, as Mina said, and his pre-beta infopage is still up (http://hometown.aol.com.au/Boxhead6177/Freelancer/MainIndex.htm).

[Maveric]

You mean Boxhead??
yeah! i clicked on the link poison posted but it just directed me to Paragoncity.com :(

[MikeKAY]

Personally I'm looking forward to that novel almost as much as I am CoV.

[Libertyman]

eep boxheads site has gone to the o-gaming!!!!

[iggy880]

I got mine today. Darker, cool, and deep. Art form is nice, kind of realistc, at least in relation to the original. Also, if it's to be used as a lead up to CoV beta, I say make so States was kidnapped my Arachnos, and beta is fighting to keep heroes out, and heroes fighting to save him, or something.

[The Widowed]

eep boxheads site has gone to the o-gaming!!!!
That's even worse than being GONE TO THE AMERICANS. :o

[bdcheung]

Perhaps this will be a preview to the new Archer AT?

[Krypto]

Preview?

We've seen all sorts of previews, silly Rooks. :P

[Overbite]

Possible Spoiler Read at own risk...

highlight below to read

So...no more hazard zones after CoV?

Around the middle of the book when Split Personality girl and Manti are driving in the yellow car talking about the Arachinos Drones, it states that many of the battle sites have been rebuilt overnight...so...no more hazard zones?

[Akamaz]

eep boxheads site has gone to the o-gaming!!!!


LEEEEROYYYY!

[vyxzuw]

*Highlight*
I think you underestimate the destructiveness of Paragoncity's villains, Veikira...

Remember, the bad guys are non-powered at that point also. Once they get their powers back, the chaos will resume...
*End*

[Overbite]

Highlight to Read

Even so, those drones are able to reconstruct at a fast rate...I also wonder if they will replace the clockwork. LIke, if we'll be able to see them on buildings and what not. They look pretty damn cool..

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[Stan Walker]

*sniffles* still havent gotten my comic yet :(

[Elemento]

*sniffles* still havent gotten my comic yet :(
Don't feel bad. It should be coming to you soon as it's the June issue. Those that do have it already probably bought it from a comic store. I'm still awaiting mine in the mail.

[Morcalivan7]

Don't feel bad. It should be coming to you soon as it's the June issue. Those that do have it already probably bought it from a comic store. I'm still awaiting mine in the mail.
Nah, I get my comic by mail about a week ahead of time.

I live in Windsor, Ontario btw. Right across from Detroit if that helps.

[Stan Walker]

update comic came in today

*does the happy snoopy dance*

[Randomus]

I always get mine in the mail.

[8 Ball]

Got mine a bit ago in the mail as well, something about Canada post I guess :D.

[Tsarmina]

Got mine in the mail Wednesday. I usually get mine the week After Rando gets his. :rolleyes:

[Stalking Shadow]

They may be. Your character only really goes around ParagonCity. (And Stirga, and some Alternate Dimensions.)

So, who's fighting crime in Europe? Or Asia? etc. Perhaps, that's why you don't see Statesman...he's VERY VERY busy...

Fighting crime in Europe? Why, that'd be the Dawn Patrol. :cool: