City of Villains.com live

[Poison]

And that's all.

http://www.cityofvillains.com

http://www.cityofvillains.com/flash/screens/1.jpg
http://www.cityofvillains.com/flash/screens/3.jpg
http://www.cityofvillains.com/flash/screens/9.jpg

Can you say SWEET?

[Blur]

Very cool! :look: :jawdrop: :bdance:

[Charon]

Oh, I can. I can indeed.

[Tsarmina]

OMG! OMG! OMG! That is Frikkin SWEET! Is that an arrow or a sword he has loaded into his bow? Very cool. No whimpy arrows then. *drooling with a big grin*

[Stan Walker]

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!

[8 Ball]

Dammit you beat me to it :P...but yeah...FREAKIN SWEET. Those Skull shoulders ROCK!

EDIT: Also..anyone else think this is the start of SG Base creation?

http://www.cityofvillains.com/flash/screens/11.jpg

[MikeKAY]

*Mouth gaps open but nothing comes out* :jawdrop:

....

[Seadevil]

.... This is the coolest thing I have ever seen...

[Joe Schmoe]

Auto what? Dungeons and who?

[MikeKAY]

Auto what? Dungeons and who?
.... :jawdrop:

[Masked Revenger]

Cool! Cobra Commander and Destro! Nice.



;)


Seriously, that rocks! :chuckle:

Hey, I see capes on those character creators! Does that mean we get Capes at 1st level as a villian?!?!

Chris

[Quakester]

HOLY CRAP! :jawdrop:

[Tarkenchi]

*goes and gets more money from mom* Bring it on ncsoft :cool: :p

wow... just wow, I WANT!

[Tsarmina]

Hey, I see capes on those character creators! Does that mean we get Capes at 1st level as a villian?!?!

Chris
Capes AND Auras?? and where the heck is my random button??!!

[Malibu Sally]

Oooo!

I can't wait. I want it NOW! NOW!
Bwahahahahaha!

[Sebastian Kain]

Impressive. This should bring in a herd of ppl...

[Necrosys]

Ohmygod. Ohmygod. Ohmysweetfrickingod!

That is just... wow...

... I can't wait to crush petty civilians with my little toe! >:}

[Xielos]

Dood...............


That guy has a glowy head.....

[The Icy One]

Thats high quality nerd pr0n right there.. o.o

[Juggernaut]

...the creation looks like the best part >>;;;

hooves! everyone loves hooves!

i want some glowy eyes too. x.o

[Libertyman]

Dude they get flippin hooves..........Must buy and make evil Mintaur of deathman!

[Tsarmina]

:banana3: I guess we all know what we are putting at the top of our Christmas lists.... :singdance

[Masked Revenger]

...the creation looks like the best part >>;;;

hooves! everyone loves hooves!

i want some glowy eyes too. x.o

Yeah, you know, I think I'll skip the hooves for now. There's too many demons in CoH as it is, this game is going to be flooded with them.

Chris

[iggy880]

:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: (dies)

That is so beautifully creepy and dark that it is only evil to a great extent. In other words, it is great.

[The Icy One]

Am I the only one who thinks the city looks beautiful? It's strange, it looks awesomely done.. it has a dark overtone but just looks pretty.. o.o

[Greblaja]

Wow!

Very cool stuff indeed

[WingedAvenger]

Awesome awesome awesome. Loving the cloven feet. :cool:

[Xanatos]

:singdance

[Malibu Sally]

:singdance

Hey! How did you evade the "minimum characters" requirement for that post?

[The Icy One]

Adminstrative powers? >>

[Kurai Inago]

I know you've all probably looked at all of the pictures already....

http://www.cityofvillains.com/flash/screens/7.jpg

But notice the tails on the lady's dress.... Maybe we'll get Trenchcoats as well?

EDIT: Also, this line Grabbed my attention

Villian Missions: Heists Kidnappings, Infiltrations and More

[Astartus]

I absolutely dig the "Fiction" section of the page. This dead girl looks "hot" (or should I say cool?).

Also there are some neat informations in it, considering the Main Villains, as seen on the grafic on the latest Newsletter:

http://www.coh.com/newsletter/0512/CoHnewsletterMay05_01.jpg - - Scirocco, the Desert Wind ("Destruction Incarnate") - the guy in the center, with the energy sword

- "Captain" Mako, the Shark (Mutant?) - can be easily spotted

- Black Scorpio (Powerarmor wearing brute in the back)

- The Dead Lady, no name present.

Other infos:
Main person: Kalinda the Fortunata, seer
Location: Mercy Island
Enemy Groups/Races: The Snakes, "vicious creatures who look as if they stepped from an ancient nightmare"

*twitching of whole body starts*

[iggy880]

Hey! How did you evade the "minimum characters" requirement for that post?

Spaces?¿?¿

Edit: Spaces don't work, thats why I have the weird question marks.

[The Icy One]

Look.. Statesman caped himself up.. o.o

[Astartus]

Hey, I see capes on those character creators! Does that mean we get Capes at 1st level as a villian?!?!

I'm quite sure that this isn't the char generator at the beginning of the agme, but rather a look at the villain version of "Icon". I don't think that villains will get auras and capes from start on.

[Astartus]

The City of Villains™ Closed Beta Test is targeted to begin in the July/August 2005 time frame. It is important to note that this is subject to change, so please return here periodically for the latest information as it becomes available.

Wooooohhhhhhhhhooooooooooo *starts counting the days*

[MikeKAY]

I noticed they are continuing the trend they started with the NPCs, the Villains ALWAYS look cooler.

(Yes I regained my speech.) :P

[Masked Revenger]

Hey! How did you evade the "minimum characters" requirement for that post?

Because ": singdance" is 10 characters.

Chris

[Amoeba Man]

I'm quite sure that this isn't the char generator at the beginning of the agme, but rather a look at the villain version of "Icon". I don't think that villains will get auras and capes from start on.
They probably won't, but I can just imagine the flames on the main boards if they do. >:]

[Xanatos]

Dead Lady = Ghost Widow.

Poison! Did they just make your hero a villain? (And likely the first evil Kheldian at that.)

You...utter..BASTARD! :P

[Fantasmo]

Very cool!!

So I wonder what we will fight? I mean, I know we can fight against other players, but will there be NPC's to fight. I can't imagine there will be packs of heroes or cute bunnies with smiles on their face standing around. Any clue on this?

[MikeKAY]

Very cool!!

So I wonder what we will fight? I mean, I know we can fight against other players, but will there be NPC's to fight. I can't imagine there will be packs of heroes or cute bunnies with smiles on their face standing around. Any clue on this?

Other villain groups, law inforcement, NPC hero organization grunts, etc, etc...

[sheld0n]

My head a splode!
http://www.cityofvillains.com/flash/screens/2.jpg

[Maveric]

would have preferred that they spent all their time adding all those cool features to the regular game since i have no long term interest in being a Villian or PVP. ah well, guess they gotta make a buck somehow... i will be severly pissed if the Villians expansion has a Pistols (or other cool powesets) and regular CoH doesn't...

-Mav

[D'Arkaine]

well think about it - what villain is going to honor a memorial for hero 1?

who would give a fig what the hero licensing board said?

storywise it makes sense...but i would be one very very upset hero.

And why dont we have randomize at Icon?

ps. ....wow... some cool shots and info there. Just hoping i won't be looking at 2 monthly 14.95 payments to dabble in the dark side and still protect the innocent.

now there's a thought...wonder if we could have a character that does good and evil...a grey kinda guy...

[Fantasmo]

Other villain groups, law inforcement, NPC hero organization grunts, etc, etc...


Ahhh, true...

[Xanatos]

That Werewolf has Rage activated (Tanker - Super Strength) and Dark Armour (Scrapper - Dark Armour.)

I can't wait 'till CoV.

[Liv]

This does look delightful... I may have to stop being Ms. Nicey-nice. Hmm...

ps. ....wow... some cool shots and info there. Just hoping i won't be looking at 2 monthly 14.95 payments to dabble in the dark side and still protect the innocent.

That wouldn't be so good. The other thing that confuses me is the assertion that we will have to buy CoV in order to design bases for our CoH supergroups. I guess maybe you don't have a use for bases if you don't have CoV also? But then does that mean every player in a large supergroup has to buy CoV to participate? That doesn't sound nice.

[Quakester]

This does look delightful... I may have to stop being Ms. Nicey-nice. Hmm...



That wouldn't be so good. The other thing that confuses me is the assertion that we will have to buy CoV in order to design bases for our CoH supergroups. I guess maybe you don't have a use for bases if you don't have CoV also? But then does that mean every player in a large supergroup has to buy CoV to participate? That doesn't sound nice.


From what little I know, I think there are certain extras you get for owning both but we'll both get bases regardless of which you own.

[Fantasmo]

From what little I know, I think there are certain extras you get for owning both but we'll both get bases regardless of which you own.

Bases is one of the things I have been waiting for. Can't wait!

[Bolero]

*is giddy with excitement*

I agree, the city it self is wicked awsome! I also really like the egyptian guy with the sword, he is awsome.

[Masked Revenger]

The city kind of reminds me of Sin City, from the graphic novels (I haven't seen the movie). Looks good.

Chris

[Krypto]

That Werewolf has Rage activated (Tanker - Super Strength) and Dark Armour (Scrapper - Dark Armour.)

I can't wait 'till CoV.

OR, he's using Soul Drain, from the Dark Melee set. :P


And dammit, I was gonna post that pic and mention how Rottwieler should totally become a villain.

[inkblaster]

I can just see all the cat-girls taking on all the dogmen, still want to be Horndog Esbat?

I just hope that with CoV all the dark darkity darkers will just switch over and we won't have to see all the "A demon from the nether reaches that rips souls apart with his mind! And saves ladies from purse snatchers and such..."

I'm also hoping heroes who buy CoV will be allowed to meander some of those areas, the architecture looks pretty freakin' sweet!

[8 Ball]

Hey! How did you evade the "minimum characters" requirement for that post?


Actually the emote is called "singdance" with a : in front..exactly enough characters.

[8 Ball]

I absolutely dig the "Fiction" section of the page. This dead girl looks "hot" (or should I say cool?).

Also there are some neat informations in it, considering the Main Villains, as seen on the grafic on the latest Newsletter:
- - Scirocco, the Desert Wind ("Destruction Incarnate") - the guy in the center, with the energy sword

- "Captain" Mako, the Shark (Mutant?) - can be easily spotted

- Black Scorpio (Powerarmor wearing brute in the back)

- The Dead Lady, no name present.

Other infos:
Main person: Kalinda the Fortunata, seer
Location: Mercy Island
Enemy Groups/Races: The Snakes, "vicious creatures who look as if they stepped from an ancient nightmare"

*twitching of whole body starts*

From the names I've seen mentioned I'm willing to bet that dead lady is "Ghost Widow".

[Sword]

I can't make heroes anymore.
After seing those character creator shots, I just can't. I just want to make spiky ninjas, spikey deamons, spikey knights and spikey... well, anything really. As long as it's evil and spikey. :chuckle:

I'm feeling the HYPE. I'm feeling it like I haven't felt it since I first discovered the CoH website vack in pre-beta. This is tingeling-in-the-stomache HYPE.
My days as a hero just became numbered.

[Stalking Shadow]

Excuse me. I need a new pair of pants.

[Mana Child]

I remmeber reading a few months ago, States said that if you owned both you would only pay one monthly fee.I hope the stiil keep that promise

[Tsarmina]

I remmeber reading a few months ago, States said that if you owned both you would only pay one monthly fee.I hope the stiil keep that promise
You and me both. I can't afford double the monthly fee. :(

[MikeKAY]

That wouldn't be so good. The other thing that confuses me is the assertion that we will have to buy CoV in order to design bases for our CoH supergroups. I guess maybe you don't have a use for bases if you don't have CoV also? But then does that mean every player in a large supergroup has to buy CoV to participate? That doesn't sound nice.

Quite a few people from Cryptic have stated multiple times that you will absolutely NOT have to pay two monthly fees. All you have to do is buy the CoV box and update your pre-existing account or you can create a brand new account with JUST CoV and pay the $15.

[Tsarmina]

Quite a few people from Cryptic have stated multiple times that you will absolutely NOT have to pay two monthly fees. All you have to do is buy the CoV box and update your pre-existing account or you can create a brand new account with JUST CoV and pay the $15.
Good to hear. Thanks for the reassurance. :cool:

[MikeKAY]

Good to hear. Thanks for the reassurance. :cool:

No problem ma'am! ;)

[sheld0n]

Ive noticed numerous graphic improvements as well. Some of those models are definitely more detailed than they normally would be. I wonder what kind of an overhaul will the stuff in CoH get. Also, it looks like the dreamy glow filter is becoming a new standard these days :)

[Got]

Oh, what a feeling, when we're dancing on the ceiling.

[Yin]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MY GOD! -breathes- OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MY GOD!

God I have chills now. I'm shaking uncontrollably. There's foam coming from the corners of my mouth. About to combust with excitement. SG bases look out of this world. AND THE HOOVES! THE THE METAL CHESTPLATE! -sees the men come in with the white jacket- That's right. Take me away. I'm hooked. I'm definitely purchasing CoV now. There's no doubt whatsoever.

[ThunderMace]

Very, Very nice! (or should I say evil? ) :)

[Emerald Sky]

I ****ing hate all of you right now. I'm stuck at work til 11:30pm and that site is blocked :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[suburbanhell]

Nice! Pic #11 on the site -- is that what the SG bases are going to be in "build mode"? Or is it "create-a-mission"? heh...

[Krypto]

Quite a few people from Cryptic have stated multiple times that you will absolutely NOT have to pay two monthly fees. All you have to do is buy the CoV box and update your pre-existing account or you can create a brand new account with JUST CoV and pay the $15.


Bull****. That was said BEFORE Issue 2 came out, and Statesman has SINCE said that he does not know for sure what the billing will be. It may or may not be 2 fees. It most likely wont be $30 for both, though.

[MikeKAY]

Bull****. That was said BEFORE Issue 2 came out, and Statesman has SINCE said that he does not know for sure what the billing will be. It may or may not be 2 fees. It most likely wont be $30 for both, though.

It has been said by Statesman, Gaffer, Recluse and if I am not mistaken Aura since Issue 2...

[Overbite]

Seeing that just...brings tears of joy to my face... :cry:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Can't wait... :chuckle:

[Krypto]

Really? Because I recall Gaffer saying...

Exact billing is still TBD (COV is a while off). However, it will -not- be $15 a month for COH and another $15 for COV if you're playing both.

It'd be nice to charge a bit more per month for the COH+COV combo (like the $15+$5 mentioned above) but in practice, if you can only play one character (regardless of it being a hero or villlain) online at a time...but it'd be tough to justify. Our bandwidth or support costs wouldn't go up as long as it's still one player with both games enabled...though it'd be nice to financially support the extra content development needed to be increasing the content of both COH and COV. And we like money. The question is, would we not really just be incentivizing most players to turn off whatever game they were not playing for most of the month...which would be a) annoying to users and b) not make us more money - not exactly win-win.

However, the exact model is TBD - or, if it's decided, I haven't heard the final decision. Thoughts welcome.

-jg

--------------------
---
Jeremy Gaffney
VP Product Development, NCsoft

That they still don't know the exact pricing. Anything else is just speculation, and not a fact.

[Xielos]

Hmmm, I figured the $15 a month was to keep an NCSoft acount, meaning the monthly fee covers all NCSoft games, including CoV and Auto Assault. EA is something like that

[vyxzuw]

What Cryptic says about billing is moot, since they don't SET the billing.

NCsoft does.

[Moon Jump]

(eep, hate posting in the middle of an argument, but what the hell)

Some very EVIL things there. I can't wait to make one of my characters into a true bad guy insted of being a team healer.

I also hope I get a BETA invite. I have been playing since the Pre-Order BETA so I should get one.

[Poison]

Poison! Did they just make your hero a villain? (And likely the first evil Kheldian at that.)

You...utter..BASTARD! :P No, that again is NOT my character, just uses the exact name... I think it's Positron's Scirocco, the former owner of Serafina gone evil or something. Or we have a 3rd, new Scirocco. :rolleyes:

I really hope they come up with a nice price model... I'm paying for 2 accounts already, can't double the whole thing just like that.

Else, I can't wait to get into beta early on.

[Astartus]

I really hope they come up with a nice price model... I'm paying for 2 accounts already, can't double the whole thing just like that.

Yeah, don't want to pay two different account when you can only play one game at a time (well, kinda, you know what I mean). I wouldn't mind to pay additional 5$ or so for BOTH games, but I think we have to see what the Dev's will come up with.

[Plasma Wisp]

Hole-lee-crap!

I hope they remember the Ol' Wispy.

[suburbanhell]

I hate that they changed their stance but I am not at all surprised. :-\

[Masked Revenger]

I hate that they changed their stance but I am not at all surprised. :-\

Change their stance on pricing? Did they ever really have one?

Chris

[suburbanhell]

Change their stance on pricing? Did they ever really have one?

Chris

I was led to believe that we would pay the one 14.95 fee for BOTH games when CoV came out. Now it sounds like either the price will be higher, or we will have to pay for two accounts...*grumbles*

[Masked Revenger]

I was led to believe that we would pay the one 14.95 fee for BOTH games when CoV came out. Now it sounds like either the price will be higher, or we will have to pay for two accounts...*grumbles*

See, I've heard that, but I think that was just what they WANTED do do, but they were never sure it was fesable. I never took it as a promise or any kind of official stance. Personally, I'd be very surprised if we didn't have to pay more for both accounts, but I don't want to pay double. I'd be willing to pay $5.00 extra, to support both development teams, but that's about it.

Chris

[suburbanhell]

Yeah I could *live* with a 5 dollar increase but I'm defintiely not paying double. I just had been looking quite forward to paying for one account to play essentially 1 game that would later add a whole other game the size of the original as a giant "expansion".

[Akamaz]

I also hoped that the Coh/Cov would be a single billing at the same amount, since they're supposed to both be like expansions of the other game (cov is a CoH expansion and vice versa) I dunno about games that hve come out since COH but isn't COH already one of the highest monthly cost MMORPG's out there?

[Masked Revenger]

I also hoped that the Coh/Cov would be a single billing at the same amount, since they're supposed to both be like expansions of the other game (cov is a CoH expansion and vice versa) I dunno about games that hve come out since COH but isn't COH already one of the highest monthly cost MMORPG's out there?

I don't think that's true. $15 a month seems average, but then, I don't play that many of these.

Also, once they announced that CoV was a stand alone game with it's own development team, I stopped seeing it as an expansion. It's a whole different game that's connected to CoH. As I said, I'd be surprised if the price stayed $15 for both games. Happy, but surprised.

Chris

[MikeKAY]

*Wonders what his chances for Beta Testing this beauty are* :chuckle:

[Randomus]

Those are some awesome costume options. I hope they add cool shiny stuff like that for heroes, too.

[Esbat]

Thats high quality nerd pr0n right there.. o.o

Its not the jiggly kind... but it'll do, it'll do. :cry: = joy

[Esbat]

I really hope they come up with a nice price model... I'm paying for 2 accounts already, can't double the whole thing just like that.

Else, I can't wait to get into beta early on.

Fine, you quit and I'll take care of Sech :naughty:

[Poison]

Uh huh. Suuuuure... :baseball:

:box::shinner:

[8 Ball]

New E3 Trailer :D

Linky (http://www.cityofvillains.com/gallery/theater.html)

[Joe Schmoe]

:jawdrop: Oooo

[Lawmaker]

New E3 Trailer :D

Linky (http://www.cityofvillains.com/gallery/theater.html)

Neat-o!

Who's the little ninja boy? Statesman get a new sidekick?

[vyxzuw]

That's YOU! (Just kidding...I have no idea...)

[Tarkenchi]

Neat-o!

Who's the little ninja boy? Statesman get a new sidekick?

no, noobs, thats like, totally me, since im the ninja boy here, and i use those powers, and like, NOOBS111one... and like... *uses inhaler* COV! :o :conscienc

[Astartus]

Damn, you beat me to it, but this trailer is *gibbering from behind the screen*.........

But ahve you seen some of the new Screenshots (http://www.tothegame.com/sshotfeat.asp?screen=4380&pic=1)?

[8 Ball]

#8..the girl in the chains...Haaawwtt :P.

[Joe Schmoe]

#8..the girl in the chains...Haaawwtt :P.

What he said!

[Tarkenchi]

#8..the girl in the chains...Haaawwtt .What he said!


... thats a dood. look at the face and the lack-of-chest...

:shinner:

[8 Ball]

... thats a dood. look at the face and the lack-of-chest...

:shinner:

I'm not going to start singing "The crying game" just yet...I still think it's a women with the sliders turned down :P.

[Tarkenchi]

I'm not going to start singing "The crying game" just yet...I still think it's a women with the sliders turned down :P.

nope... look at the cheeck bone, its a dude man, a athletic dude...
8 ball---- > :shinner:

[Impact]

:cry:

For some reason the trailer won't work for me...

[Kinetix]

#8..the girl in the chains...Haaawwtt :P.

someone likes bondage waaay too much to notice gender. :chuckle:

[Bolero]

Me neither... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Yin]

This computer animation is extremely gorgeous. They should consider a full length feature. I love seeing signature characters being taken on like that. The thrill and the action level hits you times ten when they're three dimensional like that. And I dig the lady with the fire snakes or whatever. I'd be here minion anyday. Who's the Scrapper-kid?

[coldcut]

I was wondering if the scrapper kid wasn't a hero in the COH-Korea release.

[Kinetix]

I was wondering if the scrapper kid wasn't a hero in the COH-Korea release.

Good theory!

[8 Ball]

Also noticed in one of the screenshots it looks like you'll be able to take on mobs composed of Hero Corp recruits :D...very cool.

[Poison]

Man, trailer and new screenies, both sweet like chocolate.

[Rottweiler]

First, allow me to say City of Heroes: The Motion Picture will kick enitrely too much arse.

Secondly, -although I think you're right - chicks in chains rawk. Quit killin' our buzz. >:]
Hey... come to think of it - someone check the label. Is that Widdywear? ;chuckle

Thirdlyly, I love LOVE! Recluse's minions. They exceed all coolness of Cobra and my 5th Column (which those bastages took away from me!:mad: ) combined! Those kickarse glowy-eye sensors hoozie-whats on the helmets! WHOOPASS!

Lastlyness, ...I do believe the possibility exists The Canine Crusader will have a fall from grace. The wheels are turning, at least.

Oh, and I'm sorry but, this game's look is 'METAL.' Barring the subscription cost increase, I believe Tone Death may relocate as well. Whaddya say, bro?

EDIT: Corrected p!ssp00r tagging skillz

[Magna Harrier]

It would severely rock if the new dude was our new addition from CoH: Korea... I had always hoped the international community might be reflected more in the game, even if it's just an ebassy with a few NPS's hanging around or something.

[Poison]

Oh, and I'm sorry but, this game's look is 'METAL.' Barring the subscription cost increase, I believe Tone Death may relocate as well. Whaddya say, bro? Yeah, very true. I saw the pics and seriously considered making an evil Sabbath. Those costume scream heavy metal!

And to what Mav said, I think CoV will also richen the CoH costume creator. The graphics/textures DO look better, sharper. Or look at the distance filters on the city screenshots, the fog and all.

[Astartus]

Drool (http://gamespot.com/pc/rpg/cityofvillains/screens.html?page=17) and Drool times two (http://gamespot.com/pc/rpg/cityofvillains/screens.html?page=18)

[8 Ball]

Drool (http://gamespot.com/pc/rpg/cityofvillains/screens.html?page=17) and Drool times two (http://gamespot.com/pc/rpg/cityofvillains/screens.html?page=18)

Freakin Sweet :D, Though Arachnos is quickly stealing the award from the Council for ripping off COBRA ;).

[Krypto]

lol, that's great.

8 Ball, you BETTER make it into Beta! :mad:

[The Icy One]

Yeah, very true. I saw the pics and seriously considered making an evil Sabbath. Those costume scream heavy metal!Maybe we should hold out and see if a few new costume pieces make their way through CoH.. doubtful that most of the evil looking stuff will, but some might. >>;

[8 Ball]

lol, that's great.

8 Ball, you BETTER make it into Beta! :mad:

Just tell me who I have to bribe...

[Tsarmina]

New E3 Trailer :D

Linky (http://www.cityofvillains.com/gallery/theater.html)
Even looking at it...after a very long download time and with slow jerky play AND no sound... at work I can say it looks absolutely AWSOME!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Tsarmiina/smilies/Esbat.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Tsarmiina/smilies/love4.gif

[Sable Phoenix]

All I can say is, they had better include most of the CoV costume options in CoH, or the players will revolt. Animal heads and legs alone have been on the request list too long for them not to do that.

As far as the game itself, well, I'm reserving judgement until I can actually play it. I still don't have any desire to be a villian, but if it has a good GM mode I'll be all over that. Additionally it looks like they're going to require you to have CoV if you want to make bases for your hero characters, which I find kind of underhanded, but again I'll have to see the base creation system to determine if it's worth it.

[Poison]

No, you will be able to build player bases with CoH or CoV only. You will only be able to take part in base raids if you have both.
Edit: found the source.
As far as I know - If you just have CoH you can get a base, BUT if you want to do base RAIDS (you know - the dreaded peeveepee) then you need CoV.

And though I doubt that we will get the CoV costume options, I think CoV will add a lot to CoH, in the costume sense.

[Tsarmina]

Those monsterous animal heads look evil, I doubt that they'd be made available for CoH. BUT... they should introduce less villainous looking animal options for the hero population. Animals (more than just felines) can be heroes too!

[inkblaster]

Why is it that Manticore just kicks so much a$$?

Maybe I'm just a fan of porters, but dang.

Also, why didn't Lord Recluse just kill Synapse? I mean, he's supposed to be evil! Just kill him! I have a gun, in my room, I'll go get it right now, we'll kill them both, blam, done!

I know, I just don't get it.

[Masked Revenger]

My impression costume wise is that there will be some options available ONLY in CoV, and some options available ONLY in CoH. I could be wrong, but that's my impression.

Chris

[Xielos]

My impression costume wise is that there will be some options available ONLY in CoV, and some options available ONLY in CoH. I could be wrong, but that's my impression.

Chris

Thats been stated by the Devs :P

[Lawmaker]

Just posted over at the main forums:

Manticore is off at E3 today so I'll answer this one. The new guy's name is Foreshadow. Pretty awesome video, eh?

War_Witch

found here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=villains&Number=2890324&bodyprev=#Post2890324)

[Masked Revenger]

Thats been stated by the Devs :P

Well, then, I was right. :P

Chris

[Bolero]

I got the trailer to work. I almost fainted when States smashed Desert Wind right the the nose. SO KEWL!!! And Manticore is my idol. When the arrow powersets come out I will definitly make a Manticore homage.*is really excited*

[Jade_Dragon]

Also, why didn't Lord Recluse just kill Synapse? I mean, he's supposed to be evil! Just kill him! I have a gun, in my room, I'll go get it right now, we'll kill them both, blam, done!

I know, I just don't get it.

Actually, I liked one of the explanations that Marvel Heroes gave for this phenomena.

Even though villains are evil, and have little regard for human life, they still have a grudging connection with their rival heroes. As another superpowered being, a hero, even though he's on the "wrong side", is still one of the few people who can understand what it's like to be superhuman, and have superhuman goals. When the villain triumphs, there is a strong temptation to gloat about it, because the hero can actually understand just how MUCH of a triumph it is. He understands what was involved in that triumph, and how difficult it was.

So there's also a tendency for a supervillain to keep "his favorite hero" around, so he has an adversary who is worthy of him, and can be impressed by his plans. He may also put the hero in a "death trap", to demonstrate his superiority over the hero, because he was defeated, but then give him a chance to get away. He has to earn it, but he gets a second chance to keep you "entertained". Plus, it's a nice insult, since it implies he's not a threat to you.

Of course, in Marvel Heroes it also earned you experience, which is another reason for it. :D

[Moon Jump]

(late to the party)

That new E3 Video was really cool, can't wait for tommorow's interviews. One question though about that video. Did anybody think the new MA Scrapper they added in looked like a Rip-Off of Kyo Kusanagi (http://www.snkplaymore.jp/official/nbc/gallery/kyo.html) from King of Fighters?


http://www.snkplaymore.jp/official/nbc/character/img/p_kyo1.jpg

:eyebrow:

[Kurai Inago]

Damnit... so would he Be Kyo Clone #4?

There's like 5 versions of Kyo in KoF 99.

[inkblaster]

You mean this guy? It looks like they just made a MA scrapper and put all the new costume options on him. Maybe as props to NCSoft's Korean artists for their effort.
http://home.comcast.net/~fuzzyweis/cov1.jpg

[Xielos]

But but....he has the Moto jacket open! It looks so much cooler than the in-game one :(

[inkblaster]

But but....he has the Moto jacket open! It looks so much cooler than the in-game one :(

Don't forget the cool rolled up moto sleeves!
/em runs away after further provoking Xielos...

[Astartus]

This guys name is "Foreshadow"

[8 Ball]

Good thread with some E3 info on the main boards :D, a few tidbits:

- Cutscenes in missions
- You will have "Brokers" not "contacts", eventually leading to Lord Recluse
- Bases are only raidable if you have an item of power
- New Arrow powerset was up for testing


http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=general&Number=2894780&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

[Astartus]

Man, I can't wait to dive into those pigg files....... *shivers*

[Poison]

Hehe, my thoughts exactly, Astartus.

[Magna Harrier]

According the Manticore, Foreshadow is a Korean hero that is reincarnated every time he dies with an opposite alignment (IE good, then evil, then back to good, etc.)
My big question... if the Freedom Phalanx is recruiting, WHY WAS'NT I NOTIFIED? How long do us reservists have to suffer in limbo before we get our big shot? Next time, I'm leaving States in that stasis tube Tyrant put him in..... and speaking of States:


********************************************
(Quote from random guy in the official forums)

Zeus' Lightning?

How'd States get a hold of that? Cole ventured "to the far east" and "unlocked his inner will" IIRC.

Which is it Manticore?

---------------------------------------------------------------
(Now a response from Manti)

If you are quoting the website the paragraph actually reads:

Cole claimed to have unlocked the power of his own Inner Will, an obscure explanation at best. Whatever their true origin, it was undeniable that Cole possessed something that hadn't been seen since the age of the Greek Heroes: superpowers.

Note the word *claimed*

Statesman was clearly obfuscating there. As time has passed and he has shown no signs of aging, more questions are being asked. Issue 2 of the comic will give more details about Statesman and Issue 3 will bring the loathesome Lord Recluse's connection into sharp focus.
***********************************************
My computer does'nt seem to want to load the CoH offical forums anymore, but it's in the CoV trailer thread, and I imagine in the Dev's Digest as well

[8 Ball]

Saw this info posted in regards to SG Bases, enjoy :D


I spent probably am hour or more on the base creator demo at E3. I was impressed.. particularly on how much time we are going to waste creating them. The options are immense, perhaps more so then the costume creator we all know and love. In this version, there were a number of rooms, each labeled for a specific purpose and set in size. They included: Great Hall, Room, several corridors, library, transportation, hospital, laboratory, and vault. From the descriptions, here's about what each one did:

Great Hall: General Meeting room
Room: Just a room only decorations
Corridors: Hallways, what do you think?
Library: A place to do research for skills and inventions
Transportation: For your SG jet... once you own one.
Hospital: For medical equipment, I would assume for respawning during raids. Was marked as a room that could not be teleported into by attackers.
Laboratory: A place to improve skills and make inventions
Vault: A place to store the precious... err.. artifacts and relics acquired by your SG

Every room had a number of options for them. You could add tiers to the floor, either taking them a half step down or a half step up at a time. The ceiling likewise could be raised or lowered. You had a number of texture map options in sets such as mystic, technology, and even sewers. The walls could be set in lower and upper halves. The lowered floors and ceilings could each also have a different look then the main floor or ceiling. Walls could be added in the interior of the room almost anywhere. Oh, and you could adjust the lighting for each tier of the floor. Each of these could be done per room!

As for decorations, there were a large number of them... just about anything you see in a mission! From conference tables, to trash cans, to crates and boxes, or even the CoT teleportation portals. In addition, the special room types even had useful items that could be put in them: Medical stations, power generators, lab equipment, book shelves. Don't worry about them not fitting with you SG theme, they come in many varieties. The library items for instance had electronic book cases, bookcases, and alters for your SG use.

For those interested in raiding, you had a large number of defense items you could put in. Turrets, CoT pain crystals (along with new crystals such as a sleep crystal), and many more! Raiding bases looks like it could be a challenge against a well prepared SG!

I do have a couple movies of them in action, but I won't be able to upload them for a couple days at best.


Orginal thread is Here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2902011&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2902011)

Also, someone posted a gameplay movie of themselves during E3, it's blurry but one of his opponents is using the Bow powerset :D..that thread is Here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=general&Number=2901951&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) scroll down a bit.

[Stalking Shadow]

I wasn't too impressed with the voice-acting/dialogue in the trailer.
Bases, though... *glee!*

[Liquidiz]

I wasn't too impressed with the voice-acting/dialogue in the trailer.

Come on, I enjoyed it myself...Lord Recluse is Darth Vader therefor he is Statesmen's father.

[Poison]

It sounds like I will spend numerous hours and more with the base creator... *drools*

[Stalking Shadow]

Dittoed. Time to put my "The Sims" muscle to use. :P

[Yin]

Joygasms all around. :D

[Astartus]

It sounds like I will spend numerous hours and more with the base creator... *drools*

Only thing I'm concerned with is that only SG leaders may design the base and that "normal" members might not be able to see or to use the editor (for their personal rooms or so). Well, time to make my mind up about a base design

[Vendel]

Only thing I'm concerned with is that only SG leaders may design the base and that "normal" members might not be able to see or to use the editor (for their personal rooms or so). Well, time to make my mind up about a base design


Well it would make sense for only the leaders to design the base....I mean really

[Astartus]

Well it would make sense for only the leaders to design the base....I mean really

Yeah of course, I totally agree with that. But it would still be sad if normal members couldn't make some things, like traps or their personal rooms or so.

Or this has to be debated on a sg forum first how the leader should set up the base (with sketches and plans for the "layout" etc.)

[MaligneFamily]

Gamespy CoV Preview (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/city-of-villians/617483p1.html?fromint=1)

[Xanatos]

From the gamespy review:

"Nothing is set in stone, but if you own City of Heroes you won't get to play City of Villains for free."

What a crock.

[suburbanhell]

From the gamespy review:

"Nothing is set in stone, but if you own City of Heroes you won't get to play City of Villains for free."

What a crock.

:grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble:

That's still a huge point of irritation for me....so help me if we have to pay for a whole 2nd account....

:grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble:

[Sword]

I get twice the amount of game I had before and have to pay a bit more for it? Seems fair to me.
Hopefully (and very probably) we won't have to pay another full monthly subscription for both games, but uppin the rate to about 20-25$ doesn't seem unreasonable. After all, they're using even more server rescources once CoV goes online.

[thebluecanary]

I get twice the amount of game I had before and have to pay a bit more for it? Seems fair to me.
Hopefully (and very probably) we won't have to pay another full monthly subscription for both games, but uppin the rate to about 20-25$ doesn't seem unreasonable. After all, they're using even more server rescources once CoV goes online.

When they first announced CoV they said if you had a CoH account, all you needed to do was buy the game, and install it. I am hoping that will stay true. Because I WANT the game, but I can't bring myself to paying for two accounts.

[Astartus]

Cryptic plans to add these graphic enhancements to City of Heroes at some point, but for now the better visuals will only be in the sequel

Nice thing to look forward to.

@Price model: Rising the price to 20-25$ is ok? you realise that this is nearly the price for 2 seperate accounts? I don't mind a "small" rise in the monthly fee to play both games. But if this rise is higher than 5$ CoV has died for me (or I have to cancel my subscription with CoH)

[Xanatos]

I don't know of any other MMORPG producers who charge fees for their add-ons in addition to the game itself.

I suppose "pretending" CoV is a seperate game justifies this. In addition to pretending the 3 monthly updates are add-ons when they're just new content.

[Tsarmina]

Only thing I'm concerned with is that only SG leaders may design the base and that "normal" members might not be able to see or to use the editor (for their personal rooms or so). Well, time to make my mind up about a base design
I have a concern about this. Will it be anyone who has leader status who can set them up or will it be the leader who has the earliest join date as with the coalition chat thingy? Because with my SG, the two people with the earliest join dates are no longer in game. And because they are leaders, they cannot be bumped down or kicked by the other leaders.

OH, and if they expect me to pay another $15 to add CoV to my play account they can also expect me to have to cancel CoH. I CANNOT pay for two games. Unless I get a nice raise at work this fall ...... *laughs hysterically*... like that will ever happen, then no. I can't pay double.

[MaligneFamily]

Aye advertising it as a separate game is such a cheap shot at everybody here... Imagine if EQ had charged a new rate at every expansion pack, massing up to more than $100 a month... CoV is not a separate game IMO... But one thing that it may be is if it were a newer game and we could p[lay Heroes as well on CoV then I'd make the switch but in essence they are jipping us...

[Krypto]

Aye advertising it as a separate game is such a cheap shot at everybody here... Imagine if EQ had charged a new rate at every expansion pack, massing up to more than $100 a month... CoV is not a separate game IMO... But one thing that it may be is if it were a newer game and we could p[lay Heroes as well on CoV then I'd make the switch but in essence they are jipping us...

Umm, it IS a seperate game. Considering it is a standalone game, and can be played independently without City of Heroes, I don't see why it is a cheap shot or why they are jipping us.

[8 Ball]

Quick Gamespy article about CoV @ E3. Not much new info but good regardless.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/city-of-villians/617483p1.html

EDIT: OOops..already mentioned, nothin' to see here folks, move along :D.

[Sword]

Umm, it IS a seperate game. Considering it is a standalone game, and can be played independently without City of Heroes, I don't see why it is a cheap shot or why they are jipping us.

Yeah, what the hell? I might stop playing CoH entierly and play just CoV. Then I'll drop down to just paying for one account (ca 15$), seeing as how I'm only playing one game.
YOu play two games, you pay for two games. Dosn't seem that bad to me. And if the pricing is 25-30$for both games, that's not steep. That's an increase of about 1/3 of the price for having access to twice as much game.

[Xanatos]

I don't know of any other MMORPG producers who charge fees for their add-ons in addition to the game itself.

I suppose "pretending" CoV is a seperate game justifies this. In addition to pretending the 3 monthly updates are add-ons when they're just new content.

Note that pretending is in quotation marks. It is a seperate game by definition - but really it's just an add-on.

[Rottweiler]

Note pretending is in quotations. :shinner:

[Magna Harrier]

I'm hoping the price bump keeps it under $20. I love CoH, but CoV will be a whole new game to eat my time, and I'd hate to have to choose.

[Sable Phoenix]

From the gamespy review:

"Nothing is set in stone, but if you own City of Heroes you won't get to play City of Villains for free."

What a crock.

Well that settles it then. It's one or the other for me.

I have no interest in being an evil character, so unless they have a GM mode, I won't be sticking with CoV past its Beta. And with my growing disillusionment with CoH and its design team, I don't think I'll be going back to that any time soon either, so. Meh. So much for my patronage of Cryptic/NCSoft.

[vyxzuw]

It's not Cryptic's fault for the pricing. (Gameplay issues, yes, pricing, no.)

That's be NCsoft.

[Sable Phoenix]

I'm aware of that. It's why I blamed both of them.

[MaligneFamily]

Umm, it IS a seperate game. Considering it is a standalone game, and can be played independently without City of Heroes, I don't see why it is a cheap shot or why they are jipping us.

Fine then I guess that with NCSofts way of thinking they should have at least 6 different EQs... if you say that the updates are like expansion packs your partially correct, but even in EQ there were some major uphauls for the game that were expansion-packs

[Fantasmo]

Note that pretending is in quotation marks. It is a seperate game by definition - but really it's just an add-on.

I agree, it is an add-on.
If they charge for both, I will stick with CoH. I would much rather be a hero than villain.
But if I don't have to pay for two accounts, I will most definitely be playing both heroes and villains.

[Masked Revenger]

Fine then I guess that with NCSofts way of thinking they should have at least 6 different EQs... if you say that the updates are like expansion packs your partially correct, but even in EQ there were some major uphauls for the game that were expansion-packs

Okay, except that I couldn't play the explansion packs by themselves. When Luclun came out, they introduced a whole new planet, the moon, to play on, but I still needed EQ to play it.

I don't need CoH to play CoV. I don't even have to have ever heard of CoH to play CoV. I can play CoV for ever, never even looking at CoH except in the areas that they cross over. For that matter, let's look at that. There are areas in CoV that are ONLY CoV, and there are areas in CoH that are ONLY CoH. This never happened in an EQ expansion.

Chris

[Plasma Wisp]

Ya know Sable, there's a saying. If you don't have anything new to say, don't say anything at all. This isn't about your hate of the game because they screwed over 40+ Blasters or how your fire/fire blaster is now crap because of it. This is about City of Villians.

Yeah, it's a whole seperate game, because it takes place in a different setting, different gameplay, different everything. Statesman said you don't need COH to play with COV and vice versa.

There are things in COV that are exclusive to that game, and things that share with the other game. I bet there's a free patch that comes out at the release of the game for the COH people.

There are some things Cryptic handles and some things NCSoft handles. When something goes wrong the way thatyou want then make a voice about it and go to the main boards and voice it. Sure, it's a hole of idiots and leeters, but Cryptic sees that forum, not this one. Instead of making complaints here, do it there. Questions are answered there. Changes are suggested and made there.

[vyxzuw]

Hasn't EQ raised it's prices over the years?

This can be looked at in a similar fasion. They are doubling the game content. (More than that, with the CoH/CoV areas.) So, a raise in pricing is too be expected.

That's more servers dedicated to running it, more people to maintain it, and more updates needed to improve both games.

(Unlike EQ, though, if you choose to never go to the updated areas, you can choose to simply not buy CoV. While EQ makes you pay for areas that you may not even use, by raising its price for the entire game.)

And do you want CoH and CoV to act like one game? If that were the case, then the less popular game will probably not get any updates for awhile for periods of time. If you are upset when an update comes out, and doesn't give you anything that you are interested in, what happens if they update CoV, and not CoH? (or vice versa.)

Further, if they give a discount for CoV for owning CoH, then would our CoH price go down also? (Say instead of 15 for each, both drop to 10, which would be 20. A $5 increase, for doubling a games content.)

[Poison]

Though I am not thrilled by that announcement, I do still trust Cryptic and I trust NC as much as I can. They are NOT Blizzard or Sony. NC might be the biggest damn MMOG company, but for whatever reason, they know how to handle their players. Hell, they have the first free, professional MMOG on the market. So if they say 15$+5$, I won't jump with joy, but at least it's better than 15$+15$.
In a nutshell, I'll wait for the definite decision on this.

[D'Arkaine]

I'm pretty* sure the additional fee for coh+cov is somewhere between 'zero' and 'not much' Our greed is more than outweighed by our fear of angry fans!

* Note if I'm wrong, it's jack's fault!

Here's the skinny from a redname.

[MaligneFamily]

As long as the redman keeps his promise...

[Masked Revenger]

As long as the redman keeps his promise...

See, this kind of language bugs me. He's not promising anything there. Don't starting holding people to things they are not saying.

Chris

[vyxzuw]

And again...He's Cryptic...he has no power.

Unless NCsoft says something, it's just wishful thinking.

[MaligneFamily]

Bah my comment was intended as a joke... Redmen of colonial times were framed as people who didn't keep promises .... which of course is slight Bull****

[Jade_Dragon]

And again...He's Cryptic...he has no power.

Unless NCsoft says something, it's just wishful thinking.

I think it's more positive to say that NO ONE knows anything. To say that there will be an extra charge if you buy both, or to say that there WON'T be an extra charge, would be a lie in either case, since no one knows for sure which it will be.

I think it can be said that Cryptic would VERY MUCH LIKE for you to be able to register for both games at only a small additional fee. And that NCSoft must also weigh the price against whether or not a player will get both games at that price. Although NCSoft is less altruistic here, they are also subject to the market factors, just like any other business.

City of Villains both IS another game, and it ISN'T. It's basically two different games that overlap in some areas. It's more like SWG's Jump To Lightspeed than any EQ expansion.

[Kinetix]

Umm, it IS a different game. just by the same lines. I think it would be fair to pay an extra $5-$10 for CoV.

Seriously people, maybe it's because I'm spoiled or whatever but is $15 a month that much money?

[Xanatos]

Seriously people, maybe it's because I'm spoiled or whatever but is $15 a month that much money?

If it wasn't there's a chance this issue might not bother anyone.

[Libertyman]

Seriously people, maybe it's because I'm spoiled or whatever but is $15 a month that much money?


Have you taken into concept the people who use time cards and how that may effect them?

[Jade_Dragon]

Umm, it IS a different game. just by the same lines. I think it would be fair to pay an extra $5-$10 for CoV.

Seriously people, maybe it's because I'm spoiled or whatever but is $15 a month that much money?

Well, an extra $15 may mean instead of playing CoH and some other MMORPG, you play CoH and CoV. An extra $5, on the other hand, might mean playing CoH, CoV AND another MMORPG. That's exactly what NCSoft needs to weigh. Exactly how much money will be considered "part of CoH", and how much will be "that's enough to pay for another MMORPG... sorry, I'm going to play that one instead."

I notice that yet again, everything has to be an extreme. Either CoV is free, or it doubles the cost. Yet neither alternative is as likely as a compromise between the two. We know that a price WILL be set, the only question is what it will be.

[vyxzuw]

Um, JD, he says right in that post, that $5-$10 isn't that much.

So, he wasn't going on one extreme or the other.

Please read the posts, before commenting on them.

[Yin]

Statesman said

Don't worry about pricing. We r teh 1337!

He really didn't, but if he were to say something it'd be something to that affect.

[WingedAvenger]

Has the sky started falling already?