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Xielos
05-14-2006, 11:51 PM
I went to go read PvP (http://www.pvponline.com) today, and Scott Kurtz had posted this troubling message:

I want to encourage everyone who reads PvP to learn as much as possible about the concept of Network Neutrality and about the new Communications Opportunity, Promotion and Enhancement Act (COPE) which is widely anticipated as being passed by congress. And I want to encourage you to act (see the bottom of this article for links on how you can act).

The basic shorthand of the situation is this: the internet currently benefits from network neutrality. The telecom companies, Internet service providers and cable companies can not discriminate against any data, traffic or programs running on their network. Everyone gets a fair shake and no preferential treatment. End users can reach all websites without interference from their provider. It allows the playing field to be level and encourages innovation. It's what allows the little guy to make his dreams reality.

But the telecom companies, and some in congress, want to change this. the new COPE act cuts out net neutrality. If the act passes, then the people who connect you to the internet get to decide which websites you see or don't see. They control which programs you can use over the net. They can determine how fast you get to certain websites. They control what the end user does and doesn't get to do on the internet.

If Google does not pay your service provider a fee, it could take you longer to reach their website than a competitor who did pay the fee. Worse than that, you could end up just not reaching Google at all or be redirected to the competitor's site instead.

It's scary, especially for those of us running an online business.

Looking beyond entertainment or my own ability to earn my income...what truly frightens me is how this new COPE act could affect our using utilities, reaching my bank, finding a doctor or a hospital, really important things. Recently a house guest of mine got food poisoning and the wife and I rushed to the internet to find the nearest emergency room to our house. If not for net neutrality, who knows what we would have found. Maybe I would never know there was an emergency room closer to home than the one at the hospital my ISP favors.

I've been reading as much as I can about this all week and I don't know. I mean, I just don't see how this could pass. If you were Google, would you pay the telecoms? These telecoms are trying desperately to stay alive. Google and Microsoft have more money than the telecoms do. If push came to shove, wouldn't they just buy up the telecoms? That's what a friend of mine suggests.

And aren't you more pissed at Congress than the telecoms about this whole thing? I thought that government was supposed to be there to serve the people. How could this possibly serve the people? It's so sad how these lobby groups can just push our elected leaders around. Where is the pragmatic leadership we need?

But, my father wisely suggests we act to prevent rather than wait and act to change things back. And he's probably right about that. So here are some important links so you can get informed and make your voice heard.

My congressman is Michael C. Burgess. I've left a phone message with his office and I'm going to attempt to find out whether my representative supports or is fighting against this COPE act. I'll keep you guys up to date on what response I get. In the meantime, I want YOU guys to call up your congressman or woman and post YOUR results at the PvP forums.

If you could all take a few seconds to sign a petition and send a message to your state Senators and district Rep, it'd be great.

www.SaveTheInternet.com (http://www.savetheinternet.com/)

More links can be found at the end of that message on the PvP site.

suburbanhell
05-15-2006, 12:39 AM
Yeah that's just what we need, someone telling us what we can and cannot access for information, as if the government doesn't do that enough already.

Kinetix
05-15-2006, 12:44 AM
Sent a long message.

Lorash
05-15-2006, 12:45 AM
signed, sent and delivered. Thanks for posting this, X

coldcut
05-15-2006, 12:52 AM
I'm really surprised this hasn't gotten more traction in the last few weeks or so.

I'm very dubious about the power of internet petitions, but one thing that could help is if you live in one of the districts sited below, if you could put some pressure on your representative. Or even if you're not in one of those districts, sending a non-form letter to your own rep or senator would be an excellent start.

http://www.savetheinternet.com/=map

TheImperial
05-15-2006, 01:00 AM
Petition signed and emails sent to my congressman and senators.

Keshik
05-15-2006, 03:14 AM
Pettition and letters have been sent and calls are going to be made.

Cold Quake
05-15-2006, 03:41 AM
Letters sent.

Eomatrix
05-15-2006, 07:19 PM
JESUS CHRIST! At the moment we are about to lose net neutrality! I swear to God, if we lose, we boycott all the telecom companies who limit the websites. Guys, we need a contingency plan. Help me think.

Masked Revenger
05-15-2006, 07:56 PM
I'm all for stopping this, but here's one thing I want to point out. Search engins like Google and Yahoo already do something simillar.

If you pay them enough money, your site is guaranteed to show up at the top of their searches for your keywords.

I realize there's a difference between pormoting webistes over simply not showing those that don't pay, but it's not like this is a completly forign concept.

Chris

Morcalivan7
05-16-2006, 05:54 PM
Google and Yahoo are free.

Randomus
05-16-2006, 06:12 PM
I would contact my congressmen and senators but I don't have any, even though this resolution will no doubt impact my country as well.

thebluecanary
05-16-2006, 06:18 PM
I uses SBC Yahoo (Now part of AT&T), if this passes I dought I would ever be able to get to Google. I bet that would even stop me from getting to gmail.

If they block you from getting to a site, wouldn't you think it would also block you from sending emails to that site as well? I think I might be giving my congressman a call today.

Graphite
05-23-2006, 03:22 PM
Just found this article on BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5009250.stm). Looks like the issue is starting to get some press.

Keshik
05-24-2006, 03:42 AM
Thats good because Iv heard very little about it from any major press group.

Charon
05-24-2006, 09:54 AM
I wonder if this will have any impact in the U.K.

No doubt Tony will kiss some ass and try and push something similar through to follow suit.

govtmorgue
05-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Thanks for posting this X. I will be posting it over at Gameamp so that it gets more press. I signed and sent also.

Keshik
05-24-2006, 01:58 PM
I read some more into this and apparently the new COPE bill addresses punishment of abuse, but contains no measures on preventing abuse. It gives the FCC the ability to investigate complaints of discriminatory behavior and to fine offending companies, but it expressly forbids the FCC from creating any rules regarding Net neutrality. There was a bill proposed in March, the Internet Non-Discrimination Act of 2006, that would ensure network neutrality and expressly forbid companies from favoring the transmission of data from sibling companies. Sadly this bill's passage is uncertain and recent drafts of the overhauled telecom laws do not appear to include these protections.

Keshik
05-24-2006, 02:10 PM
There was also an article discussing Net Neutrality in the Wallstreet Journal (http://www.freepress.net/news/15659). Its a debate between Craig Newmark, founder of Craigslist and a net neutrality proponent, and former White House spokesman Mike McCurry, who heads a phone industry group. A quote in here that bothered me was [according to a December 2005 Washington Post article]: “William L. Smith, chief technology officer for Atlanta-based BellSouth Corp., told reporters and analysts that an Internet service provider such as his firm should be able, for example, to charge Yahoo Inc. for the opportunity to have its search site load faster than that of Google Inc.”

Xielos
05-25-2006, 03:22 AM
I got an email from that petition site and it looks like there is a bill that will preserve Neutrality that will go to vote this Thursday, the "Internet Freedom and Nondiscrimination Act" (HR 5417).

Fantasmo
05-25-2006, 10:18 PM
Signed and sent.
Thanks for posting this X.

Sword
05-26-2006, 09:25 AM
Think the danger's over. Kinda hard to determine since i read it on a Norwegian web-site, but looks like the law was denied (or whatever the hell law-lingo is correct :p)

Keshik
05-26-2006, 12:41 PM
I got an email from that petition site and it looks like there is a bill that will preserve Neutrality that will go to vote this Thursday, the "Internet Freedom and Nondiscrimination Act" (HR 5417).
That bill passed out of the House Judiciary Comitte and will now go on to be considered by the full House once it goes back into session after Memorial Day.

Joe Schmoe
08-10-2006, 08:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VrCCpaEoxI

Protest video with famous internet people. :D

Solos
08-10-2006, 08:12 AM
I wonder if this will have any impact in the U.K.

No doubt Tony will kiss some ass and try and push something similar through to follow suit.

Some UK ISPs already block sites they feel like preventing you from viewing.