Icicles Build

[Solos]

I am still levelling this character so it needs to be PvE capable, but i also spend a lot of time in Siren's Call. Ignore slot levels, i'll sort that out in game.

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Name: Icicles
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Ice Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Rechg(11)
01) --> Chilblain==> Acc(1)
02) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(2) Acc(40) Dmg(40) Dmg(40) Dmg(46) Rechg(46)
04) --> Ice Sword==> Acc(4) Acc(7) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Rechg(11)
06) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(6)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(13) Hold(13) Hold(15) Rechg(15) Rechg(17)
10) --> Aim==> Rechg(10) Rechg(17) Rechg(19)
12) --> Hurdle==> Jump(12)
14) --> Fly==> EndRdx(14) Fly(19) Fly(21) Fly(21) EndRdx(46)
16) --> Build Up==> Rechg(16) Rechg(23) Rechg(23)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18) Acc(25) Dmg(25) Dmg(27) Dmg(27) Rechg(29)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(29) EndMod(31)
24) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Bitter Freeze Ray==> Acc(26) Acc(31) Hold(31) Hold(33) Rechg(33) Rechg(33)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
30) --> Frozen Fists==> Acc(30) Acc(43) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Rechg(50)
32) --> Blizzard==> Dmg(32) Dmg(34) Dmg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37)
35) --> Freezing Touch==> Acc(35) Acc(37) Hold(37) Hold(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(39)
38) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(38)
41) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(41) Rechg(42) Slow(42) Slow(42) Slow(43) EndRdx(43)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45)
47) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(47) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Ice Patch==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Some questions:

1)Does Chilling Embrace always interrupt AS and un-hide?

2)Will Freeze Ray>Bitter Freeze Ray>Freeze Ray hold a brute or stalker though their mes protection? In warburg will Bitter Freeze Ray>Freeze Ray>Frozen touch hold them?

3)According to hero builder snow storm's range is 80. Does that mean that if an enemy runs 50ft from me the toggle will drop or is it 80 yards?

4)Does hibernate need any more slotting? The way it was described to me was Rest+Phase Shift combined. Is the healing and recovery rate comparable to rest?

5)Currently i never use hover. I fly round until i find a suitable target, dive bomb them and try to kill with burst damage. If they run i give chase, if not i drop flight and fight toe to toe. With chilling embrace running as well will this be possible?

[Inertial]

Hibernate unless it is different from the tanker version which it shouldn't be a the controller version is the same as well.

Its phase plus superrest. You go into an unaffected mode for up to 30 seconds during which your end and health rapidly recover. You can't turn on any toggles during this time but you can query one or and attack that the minute you burst you use.

[Solos]

Ok since the devs seem determined to nerf me against what i lose against and ignore that i can kill squishies in 5 seconds ignore this build. I need a rethink.

[Solos]

My Ice/Ice blaster is currently 38 but i plan on respeccing her to make her better at PvP.


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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Icicles (PvP)
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Ice Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Rechg(7)
01) --> Chilblain==> Acc(1) Acc(46)
02) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(2) Acc(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) Rechg(11)
04) --> Ice Sword==> Acc(4) Acc(13) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) Dmg(15) Rechg(17)
06) --> Aim==> Rechg(6) Rechg(17) Rechg(19)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(19) Hold(21) Hold(21) Rechg(23) Rechg(23)
10) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(10)
12) --> Frost Breath==> Empty(12) Acc(46) Dmg(46) Dmg(50) Dmg(50) Rechg(50)
14) --> Fly==> EndRdx(14) Fly(25) Fly(25) Fly(27)
16) --> Build Up==> Rechg(16) Rechg(27) Rechg(29)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18) Acc(29) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Rechg(33)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22)
24) --> Stamina==> EndMod(24) EndMod(33) EndMod(33)
26) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(26)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
30) --> Shiver==> Acc(30) Acc(34) Slow(36) Slow(36)
32) --> Blizzard==> Dmg(32) Dmg(36) Dmg(37) Rechg(37) Rechg(37) Rechg(39)
35) --> Bitter Freeze Ray==> Acc(35) Acc(39) Hold(40) Hold(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(42)
38) --> Freezing Touch==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Hold(42) Hold(42) Rechg(43) Rechg(43)
41) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(41) Rechg(43) Slow(48)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45)
47) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
49) --> Super Jump==> Jump(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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Some notes:

I chose Ice Mastery for thematic reasons. I know it's not the best but i can't see any of the others fitting.
I didn't pick Ice Patch because i never use it. When in PvE my strategy is to hold half the stuff or kill everything before it has a chance to kill me. Ice Patch just slows me down.
The 3 holds are for mes protection. FR>FT>BFR>FR will hold through mes protection for about a second. That's my best strategy against the nasty brute toggles after they killed toggle drops.
Chilblain has 2 accs for the -fly component. Very handy in PvP zones.
No hover because i never use it.

Now my name problem is if i should drop something for Ice Storm. It's great for if you know a stalker is after you. If timed right it can unhide them so you can beat them up. Also, does snow storm need more slots? If so what should i put in it and where should i take the slots from? And i forgot about Acrobatics. Any way to rearrange the powers to include that for Siren's Call (that makes two i need to drop).

[Grae Knight]

It appears you are gunning for PvP so I will give you some answers to the questions. They may not be all right but they are pretty close.

1)Does Chilling Embrace always interrupt AS and un-hide? Not to my knowledge. I believe that debuffs no longer interupt AS.

2)Will Freeze Ray>Bitter Freeze Ray>Freeze Ray hold a brute or stalker though their mes protection? In warburg will Bitter Freeze Ray>Freeze Ray>Frozen touch hold them? Yes it can. Takes multiple applications but you can get through. I have seen Ice Blasters do it.

3)According to hero builder snow storm's range is 80. Does that mean that if an enemy runs 50ft from me the toggle will drop or is it 80 yards? No. It means you must be within 50ft to activate it. It will stay on an enemy for a pretty good range.

4)Does hibernate need any more slotting? The way it was described to me was Rest+Phase Shift combined. Is the healing and recovery rate comparable to rest? Just recharges. Yes.

5)Currently i never use hover. I fly round until i find a suitable target, dive bomb them and try to kill with burst damage. If they run i give chase, if not i drop flight and fight toe to toe. With chilling embrace running as well will this be possible? You will be sucking wind if you run CE with flight and attacking. My suggestion. Fit Superjump in your build so you can get acrobatics as well or 3 slot sprint and 3 slot hurdle and keep flight. I use 3 slot sprint and 3 slot hurdle along with combat jumping and I have unsupressed super jump and unsupressed superspeed-lite.

I hope this helps.

[Solos]

It appears you are gunning for PvP so I will give you some answers to the questions. They may not be all right but they are pretty close.

1)Does Chilling Embrace always interrupt AS and un-hide? Not to my knowledge. I believe that debuffs no longer interupt AS.

2)Will Freeze Ray>Bitter Freeze Ray>Freeze Ray hold a brute or stalker though their mes protection? In warburg will Bitter Freeze Ray>Freeze Ray>Frozen touch hold them? Yes it can. Takes multiple applications but you can get through. I have seen Ice Blasters do it.

3)According to hero builder snow storm's range is 80. Does that mean that if an enemy runs 50ft from me the toggle will drop or is it 80 yards? No. It means you must be within 50ft to activate it. It will stay on an enemy for a pretty good range.

4)Does hibernate need any more slotting? The way it was described to me was Rest+Phase Shift combined. Is the healing and recovery rate comparable to rest? Just recharges. Yes.

5)Currently i never use hover. I fly round until i find a suitable target, dive bomb them and try to kill with burst damage. If they run i give chase, if not i drop flight and fight toe to toe. With chilling embrace running as well will this be possible? You will be sucking wind if you run CE with flight and attacking. My suggestion. Fit Superjump in your build so you can get acrobatics as well or 3 slot sprint and 3 slot hurdle and keep flight. I use 3 slot sprint and 3 slot hurdle along with combat jumping and I have unsupressed super jump and unsupressed superspeed-lite.

I hope this helps.


I've already found answers to all those questions. That's a month and a half old. :P

The new questions and build are in the post above yours.


EDIT:I want to respec as soon as possible. I've kept all the powers i regularly use in PvE. If i was making it totally PvP i would remove blizzard.

[Darknesse]

You have T-3 levels to ET being fully slotted. Then I will fight the both of you again.

[Solos]

It's ok Dark, i'll just Chilblain you again and you won't be able to tuch us.

[Darknesse]

Thats what my temp superjump power is for. Or better yet, how about we go to the arena where your pansy run away and hide "kill" technique doesn't work.

Or even better, I just wander over to SC and buy my webnade and play drunken frat boy to your ugly girl home on a Saturday night.

We can go to the arena if you want. Do you REALLY need to run and hide in a 2 on 1 fight?

[Inertial]

We can go to the arena if you want. Do you REALLY need to run and hide in a 2 on 1 fight?

2 on 1? I seem to remember at least one other brute, a stalker and later a scrapper.....


Thats what my temp superjump power is for. Or better yet, how about we go to the arena where your pansy run away and hide "kill" technique doesn't work. Or even better, I just wander over to SC and buy my webnade and play drunken frat boy to your ugly girl home on a Saturday night Thats what our temp power phase shift is for :)

Well dark anytime you want an arena match with use we arn't hard to find. :)

[Solos]

Thats what my temp superjump power is for. Or better yet, how about we go to the arena where your pansy run away and hide "kill" technique doesn't work.

Or even better, I just wander over to SC and buy my webnade and play drunken frat boy to your ugly girl home on a Saturday night.

We can go to the arena if you want. Do you REALLY need to run and hide in a 2 on 1 fight?

I won't use chilblain if you won't use Total Focus. I have to keep you out of melee or i'll just end up stunned for half an hour. If you want to bring temp powers into it then i have a few web nades left over from Siren's aswell. Any time you feel like fighting us again give us a call.

[Darknesse]

I won't use chilblain if you won't use Total Focus. I have to keep you out of melee or i'll just end up stunned for half an hour. If you want to bring temp powers into it then i have a few web nades left over from Siren's aswell. Any time you feel like fighting us again give us a call.

I have Energy Transfer now...

But no, that's not a fair tradeoff at all. I would trade Stun for chilblain, considering that they deal about the same amount of damage, but you dont get to take an extreme damage attack out of the equasion.

How about we can bring all the temp powers you want. you chilblain me, I webnade you, and we fight it out on the ground? You still have a 2 on 1 advantage, it SHOULD be sufficent.

In the interest of testing out your new build, how about you 2 meet me in the arena? That should provide you plenty of opportunity to take me into custody.

[Solos]

I'm still trying to work in acrobatics so i'm not respeccing just yet. I'll fight you on the training server though.

[Darknesse]

The copy tool is borked. You can take a pre acro beating then take a post acro beating on live as a test if you want tho ;)

[Solos]

Screw Stalkers. Here's the one i'm going to test out on the Test server.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Icicles (PvP)
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Ice Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Rechg(7)
01) --> Chilblain==> Acc(1) Acc(46)
02) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(2) Acc(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) Rechg(11)
04) --> Ice Sword==> Acc(4) Acc(13) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) Dmg(15) Rechg(17)
06) --> Aim==> Rechg(6) Rechg(17) Rechg(19) TH_Buf(50)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(19) Hold(21) Hold(21) Rechg(23) Rechg(23)
10) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(10) Acc(50)
12) --> Frost Breath==> Acc(12) Acc(37) Dmg(37) Dmg(39) Dmg(46) Rechg(46)
14) --> Fly==> EndRdx(14) Fly(25) Fly(25) Fly(27)
16) --> Build Up==> Rechg(16) Rechg(27) Rechg(29) TH_Buf(50)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18) Acc(29) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Rechg(33)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20) Jump(40)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22)
24) --> Stamina==> EndMod(24) EndMod(33) EndMod(33)
26) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(26) EndRdx(40)
28) --> Super Jump==> Jump(28) Jump(40)
30) --> Hasten==> Rechg(30) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
32) --> Shiver==> Acc(32) Acc(34) Slow(36) Slow(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37)
35) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(35) EndRdx(39)
38) --> Freezing Touch==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Hold(42) Hold(42) Rechg(43) Rechg(43)
41) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(41) Slow(42) Rechg(42) Slow(43) Slow(48)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45)
47) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
49) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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