Tagging Airforce One

[Kinetix]

http://stillfree.com/

Booya! Listen to his interview.

He's like a ninja!

[The Widowed]

Con: It still sounds like he's advocating graffiti as an acceptable form of free speech...which, in my eyes, it isn't.

Pro: On the other hand, Dubya and his administration do seem to think that they're above the law and that they and their buddies in Big Oil can rape us with impunity. So I'm sure I can make an exception in my thinking for political targets. Spraypainting the side of a railroad car or a Chinese restaurant accomplishes nothing. Spraypainting Air Force One or the White House or the Shell Oil headquarters, on the other hand, would at least deliver the message: "You are not beyond our reach, O lords and masters. Behave yourselves and rule justly, or one day it might be assassins instead of vandals."

So more political taggings, please. :thumbup:

[Enlightened One]

I want to shake this man's hand for daring that.

[razoras]

Psh, he's already got a clothing line and recently a tagging videogame was released with his brand all over it. I ain't shaking anyone's hand as some great "stick it to the man" dude when he's becoming a corporate shill.

[Blue Bolt]

Here here. If I would applaud anything, it would be for just having the balls and luck to pull it off and not get caught in the process, not for some possible political undertones trying to justify his actions.

[Graphite]

I'm sorry, thats just wrong. He might as well dip the American flag in a bucket of pain then smear it across the hull next time. I admire the courage, but it is entirely focused in the wrong places.

[razoras]

I love the disclaimer:
Marc Ecko Enterprises does not condone illegal activity, acts of vandalism, or the destruction of other people's property. * snip*

Right! That's why you've got him vandalizing property that isn't his on your front page!

[Vendel]

besides the fact that its fake

[razoras]

Right, but the disclaimer is nonsense. Ecko DOES encourage vandalism.

Or did until he became a corporate brand. ;)

[Joe Schmoe]

besides the fact that its fake

Ahhh, the V man is right

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/tagging.asp

[Kinetix]

I think much less of him now.

[Remianen]

Psh, he's already got a clothing line and recently a tagging videogame was released with his brand all over it. I ain't shaking anyone's hand as some great "stick it to the man" dude when he's becoming a corporate shill.

That's complete and utter bull****.

I'm sorry but this has hit a nerve with me. Almost every week, I have to check some fool who thinks I've 'gone soft' or I'm not in touch with my roots because I make my money on the "right" side now. It's easier to affect change from WITHIN the system than it is outside of it. Money talks, idealistic bull**** walks. I don't have to have a triple beam on my coffee table to remind me of what was. I guess Russell Simmons is a 'corporate shill' too, huh? Despite the fact that his power and influence is far greater now than it was 20 years ago, both by his direct actions and the results of his direct actions (i.e. there'd be no P.Diddy if there first was not a Russell Simmons and Rick Rubin).

Mark Ecko has had a clothing line for like 10+ years now. But it didn't get big until Josh and Jennifer started wearing it so they could look 'urban' and 'down with hip hop'. Yeah, I said it. This isn't news either. It was a publicity stunt but of course, those are the sole purview of 'corporate shills', right? :rolleyes:

[The Widowed]

Ahhh, the V man is right

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/tagging.asp
Blast. And so the revolution happens across a stumbling block. :(

[Vendel]

Blast. And so the revolution happens across a stumbling block. :(



hahahahahaha


viva la revolution!

[Overbite]

Anyone who is in a military family knows that they dont let just anyone threw a base. Even before 9/11 you can't just walk threw or sneak on a base without military ID.

Second the president receives over 100+ death threats a day. Even getting near the plan is just impossible with the security around it.

Fake.

Want to make a powerful movement? Try and make it a real one Ecko...

[The Widowed]

Anyone who is in a military family knows that they dont let just anyone threw a base. Even before 9/11 you can't just walk threw or sneak on a base without military ID.
[The Jerk sez:]
That's assuming you try to enter through the gates. I spent three years at Malmstrom AFB, up by Great Falls, Montana. At the time I was there, the base had a standing squadron of twelve KC-135 Stratotankers and the command center for about [CLASSIFIED NUMBER] ICBM command capsules, with each capsule controlling [another CLASSIFIED number] ICBM silos and their Minuteman III missiles. So Malmstrom security's pretty good; I once got detained by an SP just for walking out across the flightline to the dewpoint sensor with a screwdriver in my hand. At least he was courteous enough not to level his rifle at me. He even apologized and gave me a ride back to the weather station when my authorization was verified. But I digress.

The point is that there were so many ways to sneak onto the base undetected, it was frightening. We were told to keep mum about these little gaps in security and we were happy to oblige; The last thing we wanted to do was tip off some militant, Government-hating goofballs in one of Montana's many fine lunatic fringe militia groups. There was one part near the outer runway service road where some old railroad tracks still ran next to the base, and all that separated the outer road from those railroad tracks was a tall metal fence and a tall, unguarded metal gate held together with a rusty old chain and a rusty old lock. Nobody would shell out the funds for a better gate, and we of the MetNav shop needed to open the gate now and then so we could drive off the base and out into the fields to perform maintenance on the outer runway beacons. And everytime we drove out there we were afraid we'd drive up to the gate and find the padlock missing and the gate wide open.

And that was just one of the security gaps which nobody ever bothered to fix. I imagine that guarding Air Force One may merit a higher standard of installation security than guarding Stratotankers and ICBM launch centers, but I'd be willing to bet that Air Force One's flightline has its security gaps too. :think:

[Lyrica]

in that same vein,

I lived near Griffiss AFB in Rome NY as a kid, my father did a lot of PR and had a friend who was paid to test security. For those who don't know, Griffiss was a SAC base (Stategic Air Command) Home of the B52 bombers when the Russians were the threat.

Task:Sneak on to the Base, make it to the flightline, "Tag" a plane. Leave the base. Repeat by different means.

There were 6 planes marked that night, and they hadn't caught wind of the guy. Base Commander and Security had a nice long talk and I'm sure it went downhill from there.

If you want to get on a military base bad enough, you'll do it. How far you get and what you do...that varies...

[Kinetix]

But Marc Ecko's waaay too important to actually try something like that. Doesn't sound like he's too different than Bushie flying around in his throne like Marc says he does.

[Joe Schmoe]

Anyone who is in a military family knows that they dont let just anyone threw a base. Even before 9/11 you can't just walk threw or sneak on a base without military ID.

So not true! I brought my friends in to the Navy base once to bowl for a cheap price..

[Overbite]

[The Jerk sez:]
That's assuming you try to enter through the gates. I spent three years at Malmstrom AFB, up by Great Falls, Montana. At the time I was there, the base had a standing squadron of twelve KC-135 Stratotankers and the command center for about [CLASSIFIED NUMBER] ICBM command capsules, with each capsule controlling [another CLASSIFIED number] ICBM silos and their Minuteman III missiles. So Malmstrom security's pretty good; I once got detained by an SP just for walking out across the flightline to the dewpoint sensor with a screwdriver in my hand. At least he was courteous enough not to level his rifle at me. He even apologized and gave me a ride back to the weather station when my authorization was verified. But I digress.

The point is that there were so many ways to sneak onto the base undetected, it was frightening. We were told to keep mum about these little gaps in security and we were happy to oblige; The last thing we wanted to do was tip off some militant, Government-hating goofballs in one of Montana's many fine lunatic fringe militia groups. There was one part near the outer runway service road where some old railroad tracks still ran next to the base, and all that separated the outer road from those railroad tracks was a tall metal fence and a tall, unguarded metal gate held together with a rusty old chain and a rusty old lock. Nobody would shell out the funds for a better gate, and we of the MetNav shop needed to open the gate now and then so we could drive off the base and out into the fields to perform maintenance on the outer runway beacons. And everytime we drove out there we were afraid we'd drive up to the gate and find the padlock missing and the gate wide open.

And that was just one of the security gaps which nobody ever bothered to fix. I imagine that guarding Air Force One may merit a higher standard of installation security than guarding Stratotankers and ICBM launch centers, but I'd be willing to bet that Air Force One's flightline has its security gaps too. :think:

All the bases I've ever been to that's impossible. Security might be different depending on the location. But I mean it's freeking Air Force One you really think security is going to be that open on that base? The second a twig hits the fence an alarm probably goes threw the communications building and all the cameras and satelites in the world are focused on you...

The only base I've ever been to were security was pretty low was Ki Sawyer AFB, it eventually shut down during Clinton's reign. It was in The U.P. of Michigan pretty rural not many people.