Dick Cheney: Master Hunter

[iggy880]

Ok, I heard this on the news and laughed for a good 20 minutes, no insult to injury meant. Truly, this is officially a classic.

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and wounded a companion during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, spraying the fellow hunter in the face and chest with shotgun pellets.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/index.html

[coldcut]

You go to hunt with the hunters you have, not the hunters you want....

[Yin]

Nevermind the fact the thing probably had a scope on it and everything.

[MaligneFamily]

$5 that the guy wrote an article against the administration...

[iggy880]

Funny thing is here in Texas, they are so completely defending him, like "The man shot was sneaking up behind the animal and did not give warning" and "Mr. Cheney is usually an acceptional shot, and I'd feel fine hunting with him in the future"

[MaligneFamily]

Well he is the Vice President who WOULDN'T support him....

/sarcasm

[Cold Quake]

Good thing Cheney wasn't using an aimbot!

[coldcut]

Funny thing is here in Texas, they are so completely defending him, like "The man shot was sneaking up behind the animal and did not give warning" and "Mr. Cheney is usually an acceptional shot, and I'd feel fine hunting with him in the future"

Sneaking up behind....the quail? Now, I don't do much hunting, but I know enough about it (having grown up in Alabama) to know that's not how it works.

[WingedAvenger]

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and wounded a companion during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, spraying the fellow hunter in the face and chest with shotgun pellets.Well, that's one down, but still many more to go.

[Seraphim]

Here's what bugs me about this thing.

Number 1, it was first reported over 24hrs after the incident occoured. Number 2, Cheney was back on his way to washington when the story was reported.
Number 3, (the big one) the man was shot in his face and chest. Not face and back, that means that the man was facing cheney, and cheney shot the gun around the man's head-level. If your hunting birds why are you shooting down at neck level??? What happened, cheney hears a noise behind, spins around and automatically pulls the trigger while pointing his gun horizontally??? Call me a conspiracy theorist but something isn't adding up right. I mean, the guy is about 6 feet tall, and is over 30 yards away if you have any up angle at all the trigonomerty just doesn't work out. I did the maths, if you have a right angle, with the base at 90 feet (30 yards) and the height at 6feet (target) you need to be shooting at a 3.8140748342903 degree angle above horizontal. That's assuming cheney was prone :p if they were both the same height it would be a straight shot :p Usually birds fly up not down!

[coldcut]

Apparently, the story is that the guy went out into the brush to get a bird they'd shot and didn't let anyone know. So, Cheney hears a rustle in the brush, thinks it's a quail and lets fly. Unsafe, but it's not exactly a stunner in the world of quail hunting.

Besides, if you're thinking that this is an issue where the VP wanted to off somebody, he's really got better options than hitting him in the chest with small gauge birdshot.

Here's my question. If you know anything about quail, you know that this is a bird that likes to hunker down in tall grass until you're right on top of them, then explode upwards in flight, making a heck of a lot of noise and scaring the bejesus out of you. What's a man with a heart condition doing in a situation like this?

[MaligneFamily]

Lol nahhh I don't honestly think he wanted him off. The guy gave contributions to the campaign actually.

[ThunderMace]

Nevermind the fact the thing probably had a scope on it and everything.
Shotguns don't have scopes

[Vendel]

Shotguns don't have scopes



Mine does. On the bottom.
I call it my guns penis.

[The Widowed]

Number 3, (the big one) the man was shot in his face and chest. Not face and back....
If somebody can shoot a man in the face and in the back with one blast, I'd like to subscribe to his dimensional science theory. :D

On the other hand, shooting his back and the back of his head would be perfectly understandable. ;)

[Jade Djinn]

Well, as much as I hate to burst your bubbles on this and the hating...

What some of you aren't bothering to note was the part out where the guy seperated from Mr. Cheney and the other gentleman to go find a bird he shot. Upon returning to his hunting party he came up behind them with no warning whatsoever. At that moment quail were flushed out and as Mr. Cheney followed their flight, with them in aim to shoot; they flew into the path of the dumbass who didn't bother to let them know he was coming up behind them.

This could happen to anyone hunting.

Besides, he shot a lawyer.. Who could pass up a temptation like that? *wink*

[MikeKAY]

Besides, he shot a lawyer.. Who could pass up a temptation like that? *wink*

On that note, I'm perfectly willing to chalk this one up as karma. ;)

[iggy880]

On that note, I'm perfectly willing to chalk this one up as karma. ;)

Against Cheney or the lawyer?

If somebody can shoot a man in the face and in the back with one blast, I'd like to subscribe to his dimensional science theory.

On the other hand, shooting his back and the back of his head would be perfectly understandable.

I believe the guy was shot in the lower back neck and cheek.

[IamLink]

Shotguns don't have scopes

I was hoping someone would point this out, lol.

[MikeKAY]

Against Cheney or the lawyer?

The lawyer of course!

[Seraphim]

The smoking gun got ahold of the (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html) accident report. I love how the guy cheney shot had on bright orange hat and vest, and cheney didn't even have the right paperwork to go hunting there and is going to get a warning citation :p

[WingedAvenger]

I just love topical humor!

http://dickhunt.ytmnd.com/

[Seraphim]

I just love topical humor!

http://dickhunt.ytmnd.com/
The daily show did about 10 minutes on it. It was too funny for me to explain here, cause I have a way of making things unfunny when I explain it. Just make sure you all catch the dailyshow re-runs :p

[coldcut]

There ya go.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/com_tds_dead-eye_dick_060213a.wmv

Though I do like how in that ytmnd, the J and Ch sounds are alike enough where you hear it as Cheney instead of Janey.

[iggy880]

I just love topical humor!

http://dickhunt.ytmnd.com/

Completely classic, I've gotta bookmark those.


Also, hearing about that citation is hilarious, and I heard it last night. Sad thing is, the citation was probably only for show since he's the VP he won't be charged, but since he's the VP it's bad publicity to get off scott-free. Either way, this will go in the record books, right next to "Today President Bush almost died by chocking on a pretzel"

[Joe Schmoe]

Heh, the guy that has been shot had a heart attack

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060214/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_whittington_10;_ylt=AqssNdxuNbp5vr0ozO75XM5 qP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack By LYNN BREZOSKY and NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writers
1 hour, 45 minutes ago

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot in or touching his heart and he had "a silent heart attack" Tuesday morning, hospital officials said.

The victim, Harry Whittington, was immediately moved back to the intensive care unit for further treatment, said Peter Banko, the administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial in Texas.

Banko said doctors conducting a regular checkup on Whittington Tuesday morning discovered an irregularity in the heartbeat caused by a pellet, and they performed a cardiac catheterization around 10 a.m. EST. Whittington was in stable condition after treatment and expressed a desire to leave the hospital, but Banko said they would probably keep him for another week to make sure that more birdshot does not move to other vital organs.

Cheney watched the news conference where doctors described Whittington's complications. Then the vice president called him, wished him well and asked if there was anything that he needed.

A statement from Cheney's office said, "The vice president said that he stood ready to assist. Mr. Whittington's spirits were good, but obviously his situation deserves the careful monitoring that his doctors are providing."

Cheney, an experienced hunter, has not spoken publicly about the accident. Critics of the Bush administration called for more answers from Cheney himself.

The dustup over the accident and when it was made public "is part of the secretive nature of this administration," said Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. "I think it's time the American people heard from the vice president."

The accident was fodder for jokes on late night TV and early Tuesday at the White House, before news surfaced about problems with Whittington's heart.

A Texas Parks and Wildlife Department report issued Monday said Whittington was retrieving a downed bird and stepped out of the hunting line he was sharing with Cheney. "Another covey was flushed and Cheney swung on a bird and fired, striking Whittington in the face, neck and chest at approximately 30 yards," the report said.

The department found the main factor contributing to the accident was a "hunter's judgment factor." No other secondary factors were found to have played a role.

Hospital officials said they knew that Whittington had some birdshot near his heart ever since Cheney accidentally shot him Saturday evening while aiming for a quail. The pellet always was at risk of moving closer since scar tissue had not had time to harden and remain in place, they said.

They said they are not concerned about other birdshot — widely estimated to be between six and 200 pieces — that might still be lodged in Whittington's body. Cheney was using 7 1/2 shot from a 28-gauge shotgun.

The doctors said Whittington did not experience classic symptoms of a heart attack, but they estimate that he probably had a minor one around 7:30 a.m. EST. They said they decided to treat the situation "conservatively" rather than conduct surgery to remove the pellet. They said he could live a healthy life with it left in place.

Asked whether the pellet could move further into the heart and become fatal, hospital officials said that was a hypothetical question they could not answer. But they said they are extremely optimistic that he will recover.

The shot was either touching or embedded in the heart muscle near the top chambers, called the atria, they said. Two things resulted:

_It caused inflammation that pushed on the heart in a way to temporarily block blood flow, what the doctors called a "silent heart attack." This is not a traditional heart attack where an artery is blocked. They said Whittington's arteries, in fact, were healthy.

_It irritated the atria, caused an irregular heartbeat known as atrial fibrillation, which is not immediately life-threatening. But it must be treated because long-term it can spur blood clots to form. Most cases can be corrected with medication.

White House physicians who attended to Whittington at the scene after Cheney accidentally shot him helped advise the course of treatment, the hospital officials said.

Whittington had initially been placed in intensive care after the accident. He had been moved to a "step-down unit" Monday after doctors decided to leave several birdshot pellets lodged in his skin rather than try to remove them.

The accident raised questions about Cheney's adherence to hunting safety practices and the White House's failure to disclose the accident in a timely way.

The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department gave Cheney and Whittington warning citations for breaking Texas hunting law by failing to buy a $7 stamp allowing them to shoot upland game birds. A department spokesman said warnings are being issued in most cases because the stamp requirement only went into effect five months ago and many hunters weren't aware of it.

Cheney's office said Monday night in a statement that Cheney had a $125 nonresident hunting license and has sent a $7 check to cover the cost of the stamp.

Katharine Armstrong, a witness to the accident and owner of the ranch where the shooting occurred, said Whittington made a mistake by not announcing that he had walked up to rejoin the hunting line after going to retrieve his bird, and Cheney didn't see him as he took a shot.

Several hunting safety experts agreed in interviews that it would have been a good idea for Whittington to announce himself. But every expert interviewed stressed that the shooter is responsible for avoiding other people.

Bush was told about Cheney's involvement in the accident shortly before 8 p.m. Saturday — about an hour after it occurred — but the White House did not disclose the accident until Sunday afternoon, and then only in response to press questions.

This must be the worst year in this guy's life :lol:

[Gold Rush]

Okay, my ramblings don't mean much, because I've been avoiding the news for the last few days.

Okay, so the "Late show with Letterman" and even the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno did skits on this thing as well. I didn't have the volume up and wasn't really paying attention, so I can't tell if they were funny or not.

So, I hear bits and pieces of this and I just shrug and don't really care, but then, I was listening to something on the radio and it was interupted by this lame up-date (what Joe's article says.) So, there is apparently shrapnel near the guy's heart that "could" cause a heart attack (or has.)

As for the version, I heard, Cheney was trying to "show off" his sharp-shooting skills and aimed at the guy's elbow, thinking it was a squirrel. Just telling what I've heard, not what I believe in this cover-up.

It sorta gets me a bit angry that this case is being so over-blown (it interuppted my program!) I mean, if these were two "not-famous" guys, we wouldn't have so many updates on something like this. The fact it's Cheney and some lawyer, really, I could care less. It must be yet another slow news day.


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Gold Rush

[Poison]

Does Cheney even know what a heart attack is? He doesn't have a heart of his own after all.

[WingedAvenger]

Does Cheney even know what a heart attack is? He doesn't have a heart of his own after all.I'm sure he does, considering he's had, like, 8 of them.

[Solario]

It sorta gets me a bit angry that this case is being so over-blown (it interuppted my program!) I mean, if these were two "not-famous" guys, we wouldn't have so many updates on something like this. The fact it's Cheney and some lawyer, really, I could care less. It must be yet another slow news day.



It's no different that people demanding courthearings, massive public reactions and just this complete overblown nature of it all when Clinton got a little action in the White House. Except this is a hell of a lot more serious.

Hm. Dick Cheney has almost (or might actually have) committed manslaughter. Surprise.

[Meltman]

Well, directly, this time.

[Gold Rush]

You know, I was gonna add one more line of comment to my original post that would have blown things outta the water.

But then, I got afraid of possibility of the gov of the Uni Statehood (mis-spelling intentional) of spying and copying anything I may say that is not agreeable to their own opinions to the government.

So until illegal spying is undone, I will *try* to be careful about comments. Blah.

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Gold Rush

[iggy880]

I'd like to add now that Cheney did make a statement and admits to having a beer, but only at lunch 5 hours before (in other words he was sober, and just a blind idiot)

Also, for good measure, according to Letterman's top 10 list, the number 1 best thing about winning a gold medal is "It blocks stray gunshots from Dick Cheney"

[WingedAvenger]

You just gotta heart the Onion (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/45572).

[Malibu Sally]

Hahahaha! Love the Onion.

Here's a better one, though........... (http://igotshotbydickcheney.com/cnn.php?firstname=Malibu&lastname=Sally&age=30&occupation=superhero&hometown=Paragon+City&game=Skull&pronoun1=she&pronoun2=her&imageurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums %2Fv477%2FMalibuSally%2FCentpic2.jpg&Submit=Submit)

My face still hurts. ;)

[razoras]

But then, I got afraid of possibility of the gov of the Uni Statehood (mis-spelling intentional) of spying and copying anything I may say that is not agreeable to their own opinions to the government.

So until illegal spying is undone, I will *try* to be careful about comments. Blah.

I'm not afraid. Here, I'll prove it.

If I felt things got bad enough here in the US I'd utilize my 2nd amendment freedom and overthrow the corrupt polititians.

That's right, I'd be one of the first in line to put a bullet in Bush's brain. Things aren't that far along, though. If it were, I'd be worr ERROR END OF TRANSMISSION REMOTE EDIT PROTOCOL 4.3.2 v2.