Gratz Xan, I officially Hate you!

[Overbite]

Issue 12 last page...

Gratz bro. :chuckle:

I'm extremely jelous. But we all new it was going to happen sooner or later...

[suburbanhell]

I just got Issue 11 last week...I'm NEVER getting issue 12! :grumble:

Edit: Oh yeah, and Gratz Xan. heh...

[Yin]

Someone care to share what's going on?

[8 Ball]

Someone care to share what's going on?


Seconded...no #12 yet here :D.

[Tarberetta]

Same..no issue #12 yet, but grats anyway.

[Malibu Sally]

Issue TWELVE!?!? Dammitall! I'm still waiting on issue 10! :mad:

[Tsarmina]

I'm still waiting on the one people started getting 2 weeks ago. AM got his last Wed... where's mine??! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Tsarmiina/smilies/bounce.gif

[Sword]

At least you get comics. :cry:

[The Icy One]

Same as the others.. I also think I'm missing a few, I was good till like Issue 7, then they started missing some.. >>

[Masked Revenger]

Last issue I got was the jury one (part 2 of that story). I've given them my new address twice and still haven't got a new issue. I'm going to have to seriously bug them so I can get the new issues when Top Cow does it.

Chris

[Astartus]

Damn, I haven't gotten issue #11, too. Might be that my comic shop doesn't know that they changed the companies. Think I have to cancel my current subscription and start a new one for the new comic.

Or wait until they make the comics avaible in electronic format, what they have stated they want to do

[Al Baron]

Top Cow is still going to continue PC cameos, right?

[Quilan]

what did xan get his cameo IN comic finally? cus this leaves us in the dark still

[BvS]

Gratz Xan, I officially Hate you!

It took you this long, V?

[GargoyleKDR]

Grats Xan!

- Bayne

[Kinetix]

The comics are going to put online soon btw.

[Mana Child]

Does this mean te new comic is starting with states and company the lead?

[Jade_Dragon]

That's what I've heard. Supposedly it starts with the bad guys (the villain organization from CoV, even) shutting down the teleporters. So we might even have characters in the comic die...

[BannedUser01]

does back alley brawler help in issue 12.

[The Widowed]

does back alley brawler help in issue 12.
I'd answer, but I don't talk to banned people. :P

Oops. I guess I just did! :chuckle:

[Blue Bolt]

You suck Widowed.

[Masked Revenger]

I'd answer, but I don't talk to banned people. :P

Oops. I guess I just did! :chuckle:

Am I missing something here?

Chris

[Jade_Dragon]

Am I missing something here?

Chris

Yeah, the thread was moved to the Spam forum. It's the one about "So lame" or something like that.

I THINK the Superadine addict in question was trying to recover from the mistake (while trying to figure out where all the bullet holes had suddenly come from) but got the gong anyway.

[The Widowed]

You suck Widowed.
So they tell me. :D

Yeah, the thread was moved to the Spam forum. It's the one about "So lame" or something like that.

I THINK the Superadine addict in question was trying to recover from the mistake (while trying to figure out where all the bullet holes had suddenly come from) but got the gong anyway.
And that's pretty much what happened. And what's even better, I don't think I've ever seen BugBite, Charon and Xanatos party down together like that before.... :cool:

[doc thunder]

how is comic 12. or anyone get the new one by mark waid.

[Mana Child]

It had alot of cheap dialoge that was pretty lame,and some people don't make.
I did like the last page thou.

[Blue Bolt]

And what's even better, I don't think I've ever seen BugBite, Charon and Xanatos party down together like that before.... :cool:

God Widowed, what the hell is wrong with you? :grr:

[Cold Quake]

O_o

*stabs ten character limit*

[The Widowed]

God Widowed, what the hell is wrong with you? :grr:
Likewise. You're not normally like this, Bolt. So maybe we should ask what's wrong with you, why you're suddenly so irritable and so easily deeply offended at minutiae. Did you sleep on a bramble or something? :eyebrow:

There are two types of people in this world: Innocent victims who deserve their knights in shining armor, and damned fools who insist on bringing misfortune upon themselves. Look at this topic (http://www.cohguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359) again and ask yourself, "Why am I defending this person's good name when clearly there wasn't a good name to begin with?"...

[iggy880]

Damn the US Postal Service for delivering these to you people sooner :baseball: (couldn't find the shakefist one)

[Blue Bolt]

Likewise. You're not normally like this, Bolt. So maybe we should ask what's wrong with you, why you're suddenly so irritable and so easily deeply offended at minutiae. Did you sleep on a bramble or something? :eyebrow:

There are two types of people in this world: Innocent victims who deserve their knights in shining armor, and damned fools who insist on bringing misfortune upon themselves. Look at this topic (http://www.cohguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359) again and ask yourself, "Why am I defending this person's good name when clearly there wasn't a good name to begin with?"...

I'm not defending anyone's name. What that person did was completely bannable. What pisses me off is the fact that no one here can just say "You are banned" and be done with it. They always have to add some asinine remark, some sneering comment, that makes them look as much like a dick as whoever was banned in the first place. Grow up people, seriously.

[Poison]

If you think that was bad, BB, check out any other forum. This was pretty civilised IMO. If I had seen too negative posts, I would have removed them (and if you see any, inform a mod).

This said, on to the next topic:
Xan, you ass.
I want a cameo, too. But in the new comic. HA! Take that. >:]

[Vendel]

I'm not defending anyone's name. What that person did was completely bannable. What pisses me off is the fact that no one here can just say "You are banned" and be done with it. They always have to add some asinine remark, some sneering comment, that makes them look as much like a dick as whoever was banned in the first place. Grow up people, seriously.



And while were at it lets all get together in a hippi circle and sing songs about peace and love :sarcasm:

and I still havent gotten my #12 yet

[The Widowed]

And while were at it lets all get together in a hippy circle and sing songs about peace and love :sarcasm:
You misspelled "hippie", you hippie!

*makes more asinine remarks and sneering comments*

[Vendel]

You misspelled "hippie", you hippie!

*makes more asinine remarks and sneering comments*



Only a hippi would know that........ :mad:

[doc thunder]

God Widowed, what the hell is wrong with you? :grr:

relax buddy.

[The Widowed]

Only a hippi would know that........ :mad:
That or someone in the United States Federal Hippie Census Bureau. Like me. We have to stop the hippies before they set up a new Government or legalize marijuana or turn into Communist Martians or create world peace or something. And here's your name right here on Page 217....

Good mercy, that's a lot of hippies in this country. :D

[doc thunder]

can someone spoil issue 12 of the comic with scans.

[Tsarmina]

does back alley brawler help in issue 12.
*squints* Hell Rell, is that you??


..oh, wait. I see.
Ruyushu(sp?) laughs still.

[Sword]

*squints* Hell Rell, is that you??


..oh, wait. I see.
Ruyushu(sp?) laughs still.

Argh!

The flashbacks!

[Astartus]

Ok, I'm officially confused as I got my Issue #11 today in the post.

I thought that the BlueKings Comic would be exchanged by the Top Cow one. That Blue King Studios would stop making the CoH comic.

But now I have the impression that the Top Cow comic is an additional comic, parallel to the Blue King one. Is this right?

Anyone know how much this comic is? Cause I would have to consider subsribing to both of them then (maybe)

[Esbat]

*rubs up against Widdy*

Huh? What?

*continues rubbing*

[Randomus]

Wowzers.

What? It had to be said.

[Xanatos]

Blue King Studios's final CoH Comic issue was #12 - they are no longer manufacturing the CoH Comic. Top Cow are taking over for the next three issues. After that however, it is currently unknown.

[Overbite]

Marvel will take over. :shinner:

[D'Arkaine]

I thought top cow was going to keep it and it was going to have rotating creative teams?

I don't know why I think this...or where i may have read anything about it...

[suburbanhell]

I wish for War Witch, Apex, and Horus to remain part of the story in some aspect or another, even if just the occasional cameo. I dunno I was probably the only one here who got hooked on this story... everyone else seems to be praising Mark Waid and we've only seen a 10 page preview...not saying he won't do a good job, just giving credit to the original story cos I liked it....I just hope that they will still continue to go on the servers at random and find actual CoH folks to add, since that is insailably cool...

[Thermyte]

NICE!

Looks sweet.
Grats.

[Gaia]

*sigh* Looks like the USPS ate my issue again. *fires off angry letter to Cryptic*

I too actually started enjoying the story. I liked how they worked in the symbols we could choose and the powers from the actual game. Just hope the new book continues to have character cameos, I think we as a community deserve it.

And congrats Xanatos.

[Druid]

Highlight for spoilers:

Doesn't look as if Warwitch and Horus are going to be doing much of anything. As War Witch is dead and Horus no longer has the Kheldian giving him life. Only Apex is left. Kind of sad really. Oh and they killed Requiem??
/End spoilers.

It was allright.

[Blue Bolt]

Psst, I don't need to highlight it to see the spoiler :o

[Druid]

Better? My comp makes slate grey alot darker then I realized. Spoiler safely hidden now.

[Blue Bolt]

Better :)

[TheImperial]

Highlight for spoilers:

(SPOILERS)

/End spoilers.

It was allright.

Dang, that sucks. Apex needs to go ala Punisher now and start killing. everything. Starting with Xan for being so popular. :P

[doc thunder]

I wish for War Witch, Apex, and Horus...

i hope i never see these heroes in the top cow comic. i hated them.

[Overbite]

I loved the ending. Thought that was very cool. A nice way to end the comic. Kinda makes point that in Paragon...you can't make it on your own. O_o

[suburbanhell]

Highlight for spoilers:
/End spoilers.
It was allright.

ACK! Well that.... SUCKS. Fitting though, I suppose....but seeing i'm not getting issue 12 for another 4-5 weeks knowing how my comic rotation has been I had to read the spoilers, lol...

[Esbat]

Thats it I demand to see a Hollis v Sally v Cryo v Alumette catfight... in the new comic! And it should equival the fight between Supes and Shazam! from Kingdom Come but done in a large pool of warm oil... you hear me WAID!?!? YOU HEAR ME!??! :)

[suburbanhell]

I guess that would make up for not having the original 3 in the new comic... :chuckle:

[suburbanhell]

Then again seeing Major 0bvious in comic book form would be the coolest thing ever too so I think I vote for that instead. :D

[coldcut]

I thought it pretty much sucked, but considering that they had to wrap it up in a very short span of time, there were reasons for it.

And Apex managed to piss me off again. Was there ever any rhyme or reason to this character? Did they ever do any sort of thinking about this guy other than in making his costume? I mean really, logic isn't much to ask for, even in crazy comic book world.

[suburbanhell]

Well I think his mentality was that of your typical new-to-the-game scrapper who just runs in to stupidity a lot.

[coldcut]

Well I think his mentality was that of your typical new-to-the-game scrapper who just runs in to stupidity a lot.

His personality was okay, the point was that nothing about him made sense. Why was he a superhero? What drove him to be a superhero with no real powers? If he was really Hispanic, why was he so damn pale? (That kind of pisses me off because he just announced it one issue. "I am suddenly and inexplicably Hispanic, because of which, I CAN DANCE!" <tango tango tango>) And now, after all the training that enables him to stay on par with guys who shoot lasers from their eyes and coat their bodies in impenetrable granite, he suddenly abandons it for a completely different style of fighting?! (Yes, I realize there was a thematic reason for it, but damn if it wasn't a head-shaker of a logical decision.)

[The Icy One]

I thought the comic ended itself well though.. and Xan looked awesome, bastard.. >>

[Krypto]

I wouldn't mind seeing Apex working like, as an intern to one of the Surviving 8 and training people or something in game, since he wont be in any comics anymore.

I was surprised to see he was only level 15 too! :o

[Kinetix]

His personality was okay, the point was that nothing about him made sense. Why was he a superhero? What drove him to be a superhero with no real powers? If he was really Hispanic, why was he so damn pale? (That kind of pisses me off because he just announced it one issue. "I am suddenly and inexplicably Hispanic, because of which, I CAN DANCE!" <tango tango tango>) And now, after all the training that enables him to stay on par with guys who shoot lasers from their eyes and coat their bodies in impenetrable granite, he suddenly abandons it for a completely different style of fighting?! (Yes, I realize there was a thematic reason for it, but damn if it wasn't a head-shaker of a logical decision.)



I'm hispanic and white as can be nor do I show any hispanic traits.

[Randomus]

I was surprised to see he was only level 15 too! :o

I think that was after he respecced into BS/SR. Man, is he gonna have End problems!

[coldcut]

I'm hispanic and white as can be nor do I show any hispanic traits.

Yeah, but is your sister as brown as the earth itself? I'm partially hispanic and I get a tan just by sitting near a window.

[Kinetix]

I dont have a sister!
i win :chuckle:

[Krypto]

That's what you think. She's at my house right now...

[doc thunder]

so i got the last issue. when does that new comic come out from topcow/image comics.

[Tsarmina]

I still hadn't gotten #11 so I sent an email to support. They are supposed to be resending me that comic. (I've gotten all the previous issues just fine)
Has everyone else gotten #12 already? 'Cuz I may have to email them about that too. :(

[suburbanhell]

I just got mine 2 days ago...

[BvS]

Our copies landed here yesterday, which is a good thing, since the birdcage needed to be relined.

[coldcut]

Our copies landed here yesterday, which is a good thing, since the birdcage needed to be relined.

Poor birds.

[Akamaz]

so is there any word as to wether there will be cameo appearances in the new comic? or is that just going to be the surviving 8?

[suburbanhell]

Our copies landed here yesterday, which is a good thing, since the birdcage needed to be relined.

Was I the only one here that actually LIKED this series?

[Tsarmina]

Was I the only one here that actually LIKED this series?
I enjoyed reading them. But then again, I'm not an avid comic collecter so I'm not as picky. *shrug*

[iggy880]

Got mine today, and I agree that I hate you for getting in it, and Razoras for having Wes the Mess get in again as well.

[The Widowed]

I liked the series too, even if it got on my nerves how one of the general underlying themes of the comic was "Natural Scrappers suck". I did not like how they handled Apex at all.

Oh, look. The Magic Blaster and the Peacebringer are blasting the crap out of Dr. Vahzilok. Apex actually got a Cobra Strike in. Good for him. Bring it home, Apex! Oh...his buddies beat him to it and drove Dr. V off. Oh, look. Now War Witch and Horus are rescuing him from the Carnies. Now he's with a bunch of escaped jurors with superpowers who are mauling the hell out of some giant Malta robots, and Apex is just hanging on them or getting thrown into some crates. Now War Witch just took a fatal faceplant and Apex is facing off with Requiem. And Requiem's giving Apex some lip for being a Natural Scrapper Martial Arts/Super Reflexes kind of guy. Oh, wait a minute...Apex just reverse-somersaulted out of Requiem's attack! We might actually have an upset here! Apex has been getting his ass kicked for the entire series; Could it be that he's about to lay the smackdown on Requiem and singlehandedly save the day, proving himself to the world in the process? Could it be that the power of vengeance is exactly what Apex needs to defeat an archvillain who by every right would outclass him otherwise? Wouldn't it just totally rock the world to have Requiem wipe out all these fancy superheroes who are armed with big, flashy special effects, only to have some scrappy, die-hard, fast-kicking costumed kung fu guy run up to Requiem and just completely belt the living crap out of that elitist Nazi Nictus ass?

...

Oh. Crap. He needed War Witch and her sword to kill him. So much for my high hopes.... :grr:

Apex was kind of treated like the little nerdy kid who gets to hang out with all the cool kids only because his older brother's part of the clique. Or am I the only one who thinks that?

[Jade_Dragon]

I always thought Apex was Inv/Super Strength, myself. He got hit too often to be Super Reflexes. :D

[Kinetix]

Was I the only one here that actually LIKED this series?

I'm on the same boat as Mina.

[The Widowed]

I'm on the same boat as Mina.
It does seem like the series would be likeable enough to the casual reader. More avid comic collectors might be a bit more discriminating, but the series still had its moments...especially towards the end of the run. :)

I just realized that I still have Kinetix in my sig. I've grown so accustomed to that GIF by now.... :D

[suburbanhell]

I liked the series too, even if it got on my nerves how one of the general underlying themes of the comic was "Natural Scrappers suck". I did not like how they handled Apex at all.

Oh, look. The Magic Blaster and the Peacebringer are blasting the crap out of Dr. Vahzilok. Apex actually got a Cobra Strike in. Good for him. Bring it home, Apex! Oh...his buddies beat him to it and drove Dr. V off. Oh, look. Now War Witch and Horus are rescuing him from the Carnies. Now he's with a bunch of escaped jurors with superpowers who are mauling the hell out of some giant Malta robots, and Apex is just hanging on them or getting thrown into some crates. Now War Witch just took a fatal faceplant and Apex is facing off with Requiem. And Requiem's giving Apex some lip for being a Natural Scrapper Martial Arts/Super Reflexes kind of guy. Oh, wait a minute...Apex just reverse-somersaulted out of Requiem's attack! We might actually have an upset here! Apex has been getting his ass kicked for the entire series; Could it be that he's about to lay the smackdown on Requiem and singlehandedly save the day, proving himself to the world in the process? Could it be that the power of vengeance is exactly what Apex needs to defeat an archvillain who by every right would outclass him otherwise? Wouldn't it just totally rock the world to have Requiem wipe out all these fancy superheroes who are armed with big, flashy special effects, only to have some scrappy, die-hard, fast-kicking costumed kung fu guy run up to Requiem and just completely belt the living crap out of that elitist Nazi Nictus ass?

...

Oh. Crap. He needed War Witch and her sword to kill him. So much for my high hopes.... :grr:

Apex was kind of treated like the little nerdy kid who gets to hang out with all the cool kids only because his older brother's part of the clique. Or am I the only one who thinks that?

They were newbie level heroes, end of the series he was only lvl 15, I'm sorry, but I have an MA scrapper at level 14 and he's not all that....I can agree with the comic on that end...

[TheImperial]

I liked the series too, even if it got on my nerves how one of the general underlying themes of the comic was "Natural Scrappers suck". I did not like how they handled Apex at all.

Oh, look. The Magic Blaster and the Peacebringer are blasting the crap out of Dr. Vahzilok. Apex actually got a Cobra Strike in. Good for him. Bring it home, Apex! Oh...his buddies beat him to it and drove Dr. V off. Oh, look. Now War Witch and Horus are rescuing him from the Carnies. Now he's with a bunch of escaped jurors with superpowers who are mauling the hell out of some giant Malta robots, and Apex is just hanging on them or getting thrown into some crates. Now War Witch just took a fatal faceplant and Apex is facing off with Requiem. And Requiem's giving Apex some lip for being a Natural Scrapper Martial Arts/Super Reflexes kind of guy. Oh, wait a minute...Apex just reverse-somersaulted out of Requiem's attack! We might actually have an upset here! Apex has been getting his ass kicked for the entire series; Could it be that he's about to lay the smackdown on Requiem and singlehandedly save the day, proving himself to the world in the process? Could it be that the power of vengeance is exactly what Apex needs to defeat an archvillain who by every right would outclass him otherwise? Wouldn't it just totally rock the world to have Requiem wipe out all these fancy superheroes who are armed with big, flashy special effects, only to have some scrappy, die-hard, fast-kicking costumed kung fu guy run up to Requiem and just completely belt the living crap out of that elitist Nazi Nictus ass?

...

Oh. Crap. He needed War Witch and her sword to kill him. So much for my high hopes.... :grr:

Apex was kind of treated like the little nerdy kid who gets to hang out with all the cool kids only because his older brother's part of the clique. Or am I the only one who thinks that?


I dunno, I think your last line is the key, really. It's not that the authors have some kind of vendetta against natural scrappers; rather, Apex filled a literary role as the foil - you know the bumbling idiot type. It made sense to me, even though the run as a whole was definately lacking.

[Masked Revenger]

My biggest problem with the comic was that it seemed to be about a universe seperated from that in the game entierly. I would have rather seen a comic that followed the story in the game more, starting with completly new, 1st level characers going through Outbreak.

That, or more about the behind the sceens stuff we don't see in game, such as the Trial story.

Chris

[coldcut]

I liked the series too, even if it got on my nerves how one of the general underlying themes of the comic was "Natural Scrappers suck". I did not like how they handled Apex at all.

Oh, look. The Magic Blaster and the Peacebringer are blasting the crap out of Dr. Vahzilok. Apex actually got a Cobra Strike in. Good for him. Bring it home, Apex! Oh...his buddies beat him to it and drove Dr. V off. Oh, look. Now War Witch and Horus are rescuing him from the Carnies. Now he's with a bunch of escaped jurors with superpowers who are mauling the hell out of some giant Malta robots, and Apex is just hanging on them or getting thrown into some crates. Now War Witch just took a fatal faceplant and Apex is facing off with Requiem. And Requiem's giving Apex some lip for being a Natural Scrapper Martial Arts/Super Reflexes kind of guy. Oh, wait a minute...Apex just reverse-somersaulted out of Requiem's attack! We might actually have an upset here! Apex has been getting his ass kicked for the entire series; Could it be that he's about to lay the smackdown on Requiem and singlehandedly save the day, proving himself to the world in the process? Could it be that the power of vengeance is exactly what Apex needs to defeat an archvillain who by every right would outclass him otherwise? Wouldn't it just totally rock the world to have Requiem wipe out all these fancy superheroes who are armed with big, flashy special effects, only to have some scrappy, die-hard, fast-kicking costumed kung fu guy run up to Requiem and just completely belt the living crap out of that elitist Nazi Nictus ass?

...

Oh. Crap. He needed War Witch and her sword to kill him. So much for my high hopes.... :grr:

Apex was kind of treated like the little nerdy kid who gets to hang out with all the cool kids only because his older brother's part of the clique. Or am I the only one who thinks that?


Natural scrappers are hard to write. Whereas you may be able to kick a hole in a giant robot in COH, it breaks believability to do it visually in even a semi-realistic setting. Apex was never written well. He wasn't a martial arts master whose focus and technique gave him the power to destroy hard objects. He wasn't a vicious borderline sociopath who could out effort his enemies. He wasn't smart enough to outthink anyone. So when things got tough, his only recourse was to grab on and hold on for as long as possible.

It wasn't a vendetta against natural scrappers, it was a badly written character, the victim of a story that appeared to be developed from page to page, instead of with an overarcing plot line.

[Quakester]

Heading back to the original topic, since I only got the comic about a week ago, I hate you too, Xan. :P

[Tsarmina]

So... the new comics, are they going to start back at issue 1 or continue with lucky# 13?

[The Widowed]

They were newbie level heroes, end of the series he was only lvl 15, I'm sorry, but I have an MA scrapper at level 14 and he's not all that....I can agree with the comic on that end...
On the other hand, they're fighting heavy-hitters like Vanessa DeVore and her Carnies, the Paragon Protectors, Hercules and Zeus Class Titans, Nosferatu, Vandal and Requiem.

[Edit:] Apex is SL15. Widdy is SL36. And I'd be scared to death of pitting Widdy against Vanessa DeVore without the benefit of a good sidekicking. It kinda makes the whole newbie level angle a little bit hard to believe, you know? :eyebrow:

[The Widowed]

Natural scrappers are hard to write. Whereas you may be able to kick a hole in a giant robot in COH, it breaks believability to do it visually in even a semi-realistic setting. Apex was never written well. He wasn't a martial arts master whose focus and technique gave him the power to destroy hard objects. He wasn't a vicious borderline sociopath who could out effort his enemies. He wasn't smart enough to outthink anyone. So when things got tough, his only recourse was to grab on and hold on for as long as possible.

It wasn't a vendetta against natural scrappers, it was a badly written character, the victim of a story that appeared to be developed from page to page, instead of with an overarcing plot line.
I forget who mentioned previously in these forums (or the OGaming ones, perhaps), but off the field you never really saw Apex do anything but sit around in his boxers and eat stuff. It seems like a Natural Scrapper in a comic book would at least get in some work-out time. But you never see Apex kicking pads or lifting weights in his off-time.

Maybe I'm just weird, but it seems like you shouldn't wait till you're staring down an angry mob of baddies before you start working on developing your style and form. How does the saying go? "The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war"?

Do a jumping jack already, Apex. :grr:

[Jade_Dragon]

On the other hand, they're fighting heavy-hitters like Vanessa DeVore and her Carnies, the Paragon Protectors, Hercules and Zeus Class Titans, Nosferatu, Vandal and Requiem. It kinda makes the whole newbie level angle a little bit hard to believe, you know? :eyebrow:

Or maybe Apex was the only one that was level 15, and was sidekicked. (Remember him saying "I am not a sidekick!" Maybe he was protesting because Requiem hit too close to home. :D)

It could also be that Horus, as his Kheldian came into power, and War Witch, with her Coven behind her, were able to boost their levels from around 15, which would be logical for taking on Dr. Vahz and the others at the beginning, to the levels needed for the Carnies, Crey, and Requiem. It's not exactly in the game, but could be an explanation. Plus, notice in many of the later issues they were teamed with other heroes, who could have been higher than 15.

[The Widowed]

This is true about the sidekicking...as I noted in the edit I threw in back there. Sorry about the edit. :D

And Requiem did seem to have a way of tormenting people with the stuff they'd rather not have brought up--much less mocked--didn't he?

[Jade_Dragon]

Do a jumping jack already, Apex. :grr:

I still say Apex was a Tanker. He wasn't particularly skilled, and he was bulky, which could have afforded him some protection. (And would explain the constant eating) In fact, if they'd said his costume was armor, then I would DEFINATELY have said he was a Tanker.

Remember, Back Alley Brawler, who apparently was Apex's hero and even showed him a few pointers, is ALSO a Natural Invulnerability/Super Strength Tanker.

[The Widowed]

Where does it say what Hero type Back Alley Brawler is? I never read that anywhere. :confused:

But it seems to me like Apex was a Natural Martial Arts Scrapper; The Natural part of Apex was pointed out with a little two-panel chatter between him and Kindheart in the Jury Duty three-parter, and the Martial Arts part was suggested by little things like the "nerve strike" (Cobra Strike?) he landed on Dr. Vahzilok, his habit of kicking villains a lot and his two instances of "Gung Fu" dialogue with both Back Alley Brawler and Vandal in Issue #12.

And, of course, the Scrapper part was suggested simply because Martial Arts is a Scrapper power set, not a Tanker power set.

Well, that and Apex's last line in Issue #12. You know, the shot with the notorious Xanatos. :p

[Jade_Dragon]

Where does it say what Hero type Back Alley Brawler is? I never read that anywhere. :confused:

Hold on, let me look... I have a copy of the post on my comp, but I don't know if it's still on the official site.

Okay, go here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2741128) and scroll down to a post by (wouldn't ya know) Boxhead. A few posts later, here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2742818), Manticore corrects Boxhead with the now famous post in which he introduces Trick Arrow.

Well, that and Apex's last line in Issue #12. You know, the shot with the notorious Xanatos. :p

Ah, but at that time he was a BROADSWORD/Invulnerability Scrapper. :chuckle: Yeah, I know, you can't respec into another Power Set in the game, either, but I'm sure he wasn't wearing that sword on his back just for show.

Actually, I thought that was one of the coolest things about the ending. In a way, Apex has taken War Witch's power and combined it with his own.

[The Widowed]

On the other hand, we never actually see him wield the sword. Perhaps he was carrying it for show. Or perhaps he was carrying it in memoriam of his slain friend War Witch, in a manner similar to a Chinese man carrying the ashes of his dead mother around in a wooden box for a week or so. The sword was what she was best known by, wasn't it? (Me? I would have kept a few locks of her weirdly colored hair myself....)

He was a bit broken up when he suddenly found himself without War Witch and Horus. I guess he wasn't that attached to Horus, or he might have started wearing the Egyptian-style helmet too. :p

[coldcut]

I forget who mentioned previously in these forums (or the OGaming ones, perhaps), but off the field you never really saw Apex do anything but sit around in his boxers and eat stuff. It seems like a Natural Scrapper in a comic book would at least get in some work-out time. But you never see Apex kicking pads or lifting weights in his off-time.

That was me. I have pretty much despised Apex for awhile now. Pretty much since he became Hispanic on what seemed like a whim.

[The Widowed]

Yeah, that sucked too. As if the white boys didn't have enough people telling them they can't dance, eh? "Maybe he'll dance better if we make him Latino. Yeah, that's the ticket...." :D

[coldcut]

"Also, to make my ethnicity more valid, I am from Miami. Arriba!"

[Jade_Dragon]

He was a bit broken up when he suddenly found himself without War Witch and Horus. I guess he wasn't that attached to Horus, or he might have started wearing the Egyptian-style helmet too. :p

Actually, no, I got the impression that he was REALLY attached to War Witch. Maybe not in a romantic manner, but really close to it.

But maybe that's just me. I'm hoping that if by chance he does show up in the new series, he still has the sword with him.

[Krypto]

Hold on, let me look... I have a copy of the post on my comp, but I don't know if it's still on the official site.

Okay, go here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2741128) and scroll down to a post by (wouldn't ya know) Boxhead. A few posts later, here (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2742818), Manticore corrects Boxhead with the now famous post in which he introduces Trick Arrow.



Ah, but at that time he was a BROADSWORD/Invulnerability Scrapper. :chuckle: Yeah, I know, you can't respec into another Power Set in the game, either, but I'm sure he wasn't wearing that sword on his back just for show.

Actually, I thought that was one of the coolest things about the ending. In a way, Apex has taken War Witch's power and combined it with his own.


Back Alley Brawler is an Invulnerability/Energy Melee Tanker. That is how the designers made him. It doesn't take much, just look at the videos they've made. In each one, he's still got Energy Melee. Don't ask me why the Back Alley Brawler in Galaxy actually looks NOTHING like the real deal, though...

[The Widowed]

Heh! "Arriba!" You're funny. :lol:

Now bring back your squirrel-thing avatar, you funny man you. :D

[The Widowed]

Actually, no, I got the impression that he was REALLY attached to War Witch. Maybe not in a romantic manner, but really close to it.
The Understatement device is lost on you. :p

I mean, a full-grown man was shedding tears over War Witch. That means something....

[Jade_Dragon]

Back Alley Brawler is an Invulnerability/Energy Melee Tanker. That is how the designers made him. It doesn't take much, just look at the videos they've made. In each one, he's still got Energy Melee. Don't ask me why the Back Alley Brawler in Galaxy actually looks NOTHING like the real deal, though...

Well, in the "official" post (which was quoted by Boxhead) he's listed as Invulnerability/Super Strength. Since Manticore didn't correct it, I'm assuming that's still valid. But of course, they can make the graphics look like anything they want to in a demo.

You're right about him looking wrong in Galaxy City, though. Presumably he got they same kind of visual upgrade they use on Positron to make him a "Tron" lookalike. :D

[Krypto]

And as Manticore pointed out, half of those are wrong anyways.

BAB is so totally EM.

[Jade_Dragon]

And as Manticore pointed out, half of those are wrong anyways.

BAB is so totally EM.

Again, if it was wrong, Manticore WOULD have corrected it. He corrected plenty of them, so why would he ignore one?

And more importantly, who the heck cares?