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Symbiote

07-02-2005, 08:29 AM

Well, I guess on the subject of sharks...

Has anyone seen shark hunting contests or anything of the sort? I watched one of those on TV a while ago, probably the most gruesome show I've seen on TV. So, a bunch of people set out to go hunt sharks that are such a menace to us humans at the beach, using tools such as their insane amount of bait and a large array of hooks and catching crap.

After watching 10 minutes of these people making the ocean red with their blood bait, a shark finally comes up to have his last good meal. To keep it simple, my face = O_o shark = :shinner: .

Ever since that and various other incidents of cruelty, I tend to think humans, as a whole, deserve it :( .

Poison

07-02-2005, 08:46 AM

Sharks are friends, not food.
"Beach remains open for swimmers." Sure thing. Surf's up, dude!
Can't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like:
Every year 30 people die from shark attacks. Every year 30,000 sharks are killed by man.

Kurai Inago

07-02-2005, 08:56 AM

Just a random Factiod I picked up in a book on Sharks
"You have a better chance of being Killed By Falling Airplane Parts than by a shark."

The Widowed

07-02-2005, 09:00 AM

There you go. How many people in Florida have been killed by airplane parts this year, Sally? :D

Malibu Sally

07-02-2005, 09:10 AM

There you go. How many people in Florida have been killed by airplane parts this year, Sally? :D

No idea. The problem is that airplane parts don't look menacing enough. If they had big sharp teeth, I am sure the outcry against the menace that is falling aircraft parts would be equal to the hysteria about shark attacks. :lol:

coldcut

07-02-2005, 09:30 AM

Maybe you can attach alligators to the airplane parts, which will make people more wary of them.

Malibu Sally

07-02-2005, 09:39 AM

Maybe you can attach alligators to the airplane parts, which will make people more wary of them.

No that won't work. It will cause the stupid people to start feeding them. They will lose their natural wariness of humans and then neigborhood dogs will start getting eaten by the gator/part hybrids.

Rufus Rhinehart

07-02-2005, 09:48 AM

Or perhaps the neighbourhood pets will get sucked into the engines, thereby blowing them up and averting any further attacks by said gators... might be some collateral damage though.

Edit: The third in a series of three attacks counts as a 'string'? Nothing like responsible journalism... :rolleyes:

MikeKAY

07-02-2005, 01:34 PM

Don't goats kill more people every year then sharks?

Malibu Sally

07-02-2005, 01:59 PM

Erk... could someone please change the word "Plead" in the title to "Please".

What was I thinking? :think:

MikeKAY

07-02-2005, 02:08 PM

Done. :)

Malibu Sally

07-02-2005, 02:19 PM

Thanks Mike. I knew I could count on a comrade-in-smartassdom. :)

Apollinaris

07-02-2005, 02:46 PM

Every year 30 people die from shark attacks. Every year 30,000 sharks are killed by man.

That means we're winning! Go us! First wolves and now sharks, we rock!

Gaia

07-02-2005, 03:57 PM

Then there are the lovely game designers out there that actually think being a shark is fun. Especially a certain great white shark. Yep lauching in August is: Jaws Unleashed (http://www.jawsthegame.com/). Thing is on the Oregon coast is one of its favorite habitats.

Poison

07-02-2005, 04:19 PM

Just what the world needs, yay... :grr:
http://www.jawsthegame.com/images/screens/big/screen0017.jpg

Meltman

07-02-2005, 04:35 PM

Um, why was Jaws ON a leash to begin with?

sheld0n

07-02-2005, 04:59 PM

Whoa, that might actually be as cool as Ecco the dolphin.

Papillon

07-02-2005, 05:52 PM

Don't forget one of the key features, the Dismemberment engine!

Dismemberment engine provides multiple points of disconnection allowing for characters and objects to be torn apart piece by piece

Esbat

07-02-2005, 06:17 PM

*peers into his Crystal Es-Ball*

I forsee...

*dream sequence*

Reporter: And it was in the quaint neighborhood that the teen boy attacked 5 children at his little brother's swim party in their backyard pool.

*Camera cuts to a shot of a bloody pool cordoned off by police tape*

Reporter: It was here that the teen, after donning a crudely crafted rubber fin on his back, slowly slid into the pool where over 2 dozen children were at play and stalked the children under water for about 3 minutes before attacking his first victim.

*camera cuts to a harness, with a gray fin attached to it, with a yellow plastic number set by it*

Reporter: Friends say the boy had begun sharpening his teeth after purchasing a copy of Jaws Unleashed for his console...

*cuts to footage from Mortal Kombat, Doom, and Pac Man. The camera zooms in to the quickly opening and closing mouth of Pac Man as he devours a blue ghost*

Larke

07-02-2005, 07:39 PM

Just a random Factiod I picked up in a book on Sharks
"You have a better chance of being Killed By Falling Airplane Parts than by a shark."

so when did the person get killed by falling airplane parts... cause last saturday a FOURTEEN year old girl died. Pretty much the reason I don't like swimming in the ocean. freaking chest deep water.

edit: Also.. how many people lose body parts to sharks a year, i wanna see that statistic too, cause it would freaking suck to lose a body part... also, what are sharks good for? eat fish? we can do that. Also, why does everyone think that everything on this earth deserves to live? that's not neccessarily true, I think if some things were eliminated, the circle of life would go on.

Poison

07-02-2005, 07:58 PM

Whoa, Larke. Watch what you say and inform yourself a bit. Actually it's humans the planet and circle of life could comepletely pass on. We're gadfies. If other living beings don't deserve to live, we surely don't.

Sharks are the waste disposal units of the seas. They are also main predators, keeping fish populations controlled as it should be (many fish=many sharks, few fish=few sharks). Sharks have existed for rougly 300 million years.

The air plane thing might sound weird, but more people are killed by bee stings per year than by shark attacks. Wanna get rid of bees, too? And 90% of shark attack victims survive the attack. Sure, a big scar or lost body part is not nice, but I think it's a little easier to cripple yourself on a street or in your job than by a shark.

coldcut

07-02-2005, 08:10 PM

Y'all are condemning Jaws: the video game over all the other Rockstar games? Come on.

sheld0n

07-02-2005, 08:16 PM

Another factoid: usually sharks dont even attack humans. When they do, its because they confused them with seals.

MikeKAY

07-02-2005, 08:58 PM

Sharks actually can't stand the taste of human flesh, they will almost universally spit you back out after taking a bite. They usually only bite out of confusion or curiosity, they never actually hunt humans to eat. Obviously this is what leads to shark attacks but few deaths. Death is usually because people instinctively struggle which only shreds you up worse.

sheld0n

07-02-2005, 10:16 PM

Yep, we're stinky, chemical poison-ridden, disgusting meat. Not very different from sewer rats, actually.

As a matter of fact, cockroaches wash after contact with humans.

Rufus Rhinehart

07-02-2005, 10:51 PM

so when did the person get killed by falling airplane parts... cause last saturday a FOURTEEN year old girl died. Pretty much the reason I don't like swimming in the ocean. freaking chest deep water.

Unlikely the shark carded her before he bit. What does her age have to do with anything?

Also, why does everyone think that everything on this earth deserves to live? that's not neccessarily true, I think if some things were eliminated, the circle of life would go on.

So where do you start? And where does it end?

Maveric

07-03-2005, 03:42 AM

mmmmmm, Shark, "the other white meat". where's my BBQ sauce?

Xielos

07-03-2005, 04:10 AM

Hey, sharks were there first. Most of these people being attacked are tourists who don't know any better. Kind of like when the hurricanes hit. It had been years since a major hurricane occured, and in that time millions of tourists came over, noticed how pretty and safe the weather was, and decided to move here. Then BOOM! The natural 20 year drought/wet cycle of Florida comes crashing down on everyone who had moved into the older houses that needed roofing work and all the new cardboard apartments. Sharks are as natural to this earth as anything else, eliminating them isn't going to help anything or anyone.

Larke

07-03-2005, 06:20 PM

Hey, sharks were there first.

Sharks are as natural to this earth as anything else, eliminating them isn't going to help anything or anyone.

yeah, dinosaurs were here first too..

and i agree that eliminating them isn't gonna help, but it isn't gonna hurt either, is what I'm saying. I'm kinda more pro human, not gonna say go sharks and humans probably deserve what they get. and i'm sure the 14 year old girl wasn't carded, but it was her age and that they don't care and it really sucks ot have her life ended like that.

Blackbat

07-05-2005, 04:03 PM

and i agree that eliminating them isn't gonna help, but it isn't gonna hurt either, is what I'm saying. I'm kinda more pro human, not gonna say go sharks and humans probably deserve what they get. and i'm sure the 14 year old girl wasn't carded, but it was her age and that they don't care and it really sucks ot have her life ended like that.

Actually it would hurt us. Eliminating a top tier predator in any enviroment is just asking for trouble. Being pro-human is one thing but deciding to put another animal to extinction just so tourists can take a dip in the ocean is crazy.

It's like those people that go out to a remote forrest somewhere to camp, then when they happen to run a across a bear or mountain lion and they get mauled or killed it's somehow the animal's fault. Nevermind that YOU went into it's territory where it lives.

Bottomline is that the ocean is where sharks live, when you go and swim there you are taking the chance of gitten bitten, when that happens you have no one to blame but yourself. Whether you're 14 or 41 makes no difference to a shark.

Larke

07-05-2005, 06:52 PM

Blackbat

07-05-2005, 06:59 PM

That's true, but it wasn't really my point. I was comparing the activities and how people put themselves at risk, whether it be in a forrest, the ocean, sky diving, base jumping or whatever you get your kicks from. That's all well and good, I think it's cool, but when people then get hurt it's ultimately their own fault.

Whether resorts begged them to come or not, they still made the choice to go swimming in the ocean knowing that sharks, jelly fish, eels and hundreds of other potentially dangerous animals make their home there.

Solario

07-05-2005, 07:00 PM

You take a risk, when you cross the street. More people are killed by cars than shark. Want to outlaw them too?

You have to live with the fact that living automatically puts you in some form of danger, no matter what you do, if you can't take that risk, you're probably better off dead.

How far out do you have to go swimming, so sharks are even in the area anyway?

Symbiote

07-05-2005, 07:45 PM

Sharks aren't the worst thing the beach has though... JELLYFISH! Those are the devil.

Titomancer

07-05-2005, 08:24 PM

Life sucks, and then you die...some people bite it early (no pun intended, seriously). Yea, it sucks that a little girl got killed, but I remember when a little 8 year old girl got killed by a gator cause she was trying to play with it. "If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"...I dont like sharks, I respect them...so I stay my narrow ass out tha damn ocean. If I want a swim, I'll hit the pool.....though...there was a guy in my old neighborhood who found a gator in his pool...no idea what it was doing there.

....and I will deffinately be getting addicted to Jaws:Unleashed....what a way to relax after work, huh?

Sun-Scarab

07-05-2005, 08:48 PM

...there was a guy in my old neighborhood who found a gator in his pool...no idea what it was doing there.

the backstroke ? :lol:

Larke

07-06-2005, 01:29 AM

How far out do you have to go swimming, so sharks are even in the area anyway?

not very far. one of the guys was in chest deep water.

sheld0n

07-06-2005, 03:16 AM

Being the deadliest species on the planet, we have a very delicate role to fill. We cant just run around guns blazing and killing off any potential danger, because there wont be anyone to slap us on the face and show us our madness.
We're already doing enough damage as it is, killing the rain forests, contaminating oceans and destroying the ozone layer. Earth, our own home, suffers because of us.

We have the power do make a shark genocide, but we dont have the right to do it.

Oh and:

You have to live with the fact that living automatically puts you in some form of danger, no matter what you do, if you can't take that risk, you're probably better off dead.

Brilliant! :lol:

Xielos

07-06-2005, 03:32 AM

Well that just confirmed that people shouldn't go in the ocean, not just "tourists" just people in general. There's a big difference between the ocean and a remote area of the forrest, so many companies and resorts and stuff are BEGGING people to come to the beach and go swimming.

Every beach in Florida has a sign posted that reads:

"SWIM AT OWN RISK"

And about the gator in the pool, if the bottom of the pool was painted brown (some used to be), the the gator mistook it for a pond, which is why you don't see brown painted pools anymore.

The Widowed

07-06-2005, 04:13 AM

Is that so?

Hmmm....

Somebody could make a small fortune on the side if they had a swimming pool with a brown bottom in Florida. Just wake up every morning, grab your harpoon gun, walk out to the pool, spot the alligator, mount the harpoon gun, take aim...POW!!! Skin him, stitch him and sell him. :)

Not that I would ever condone the slaughtering of a poor, defenseless alligator...but they do make some nice-looking jackets, no? :cool:

Apollinaris

07-06-2005, 08:09 AM

First of all, about Jaws: Unleashed.. so.. there's a bonus mode where the shark steals a car or boat then screws a hooker and devours her, right? Because frankly I don't see how that game will possibly sell if the damn shark can't do all that.

And um, first of all. Shark is delicous good eating. Second, I think the easiest thing to do in the case of the ocean would be to simply make the coastal beaches be a place that sharks don't want to be. I'd suggest noise generators planted in the ocean but it would drive away all the fish too. I wonder if every time sharks got within so far of a beach they got killed if sharks as a whole would start to avoid that area?

Poison

07-06-2005, 10:43 AM

Noise generators do far more than drive fish away, they drive ocean mammals like dolphins and whales crazy, disorients them and in the end they perish. Not sure if the US Navy still denies that their new sonars have this effect.

And I'm not too sure, but I don't think sharks have a way to communicate. So you cannot "teach" them to avoid beaches. If they had the abaility to lear, they would be avoiding humans by now anyway.

Titomancer

07-06-2005, 02:28 PM

I don't think sharks can learn, as a species, by us killing them. And sonar and things like that would really screw up the ecosystem. We are the dominant species on this planet, we have a responisibility not to be bone-heads. Just because you CAN comepletely annihilate a species doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Can't we all just get along? We killed a ton of them, they are just letting us know not to mess with them.

As an aside.....Grand Theft Shark....that game would go gold the day they announced it, mark my words. Especially if you could beat Ecco and Flipper to death with a crowbar and eat them.