Google: 2015

[MikeKAY]

Link<--{Clicky} (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/epic)

Here is a little something to ponder. Scary as hell? Totally awesome? Thoughts?

[Akamaz]

it looks scaryvoulous! (scary and marvelous at the same time) Scary because GPS tracking and such makes me feell all big brothery and marvelous because of the potential all that information sharing could have the potential to accomplish..

[Randomus]

Yeah, that's an awesome flash. I love the idea of a networked humanity.

[Alumette]

It is useless to resist.

[sheld0n]

Soo...
If i wanna be a journalist...
Does it mean im screwed?

[Rottweiler]

Sooo..... huh?O_o

[Randomus]

Soo...
If i wanna be a journalist...
Does it mean im screwed?

No. You just set up a podcast like the girl did.

[Alumette]

That's right, Mister...Shelderson. One of these lives has a future. *adjusts earpiece and dark glasses*

[MikeKAY]

It is useless to resist.

Pretty much true, ya. This kind of thing is basically inevitable given the rapid advancement of technology. Personally, I'm actually looking forward to it. It's the kind of advancement that EVERYONE gets to partake in and benefit from. Besides, I have never been in the camp of the paranoid nostalgics hell-bent to reversing progress and advancement..

Any way you look at it, the future is most certainly going to be interesting.

[Randomus]

I think that level of mobile computing and information sharing could help get people out of the house again, which is awesome. Unfortunately it has the downside of making individuals easier to track down, which may mean stricter government surveillance-- but only if the people allow it. I think the masses have forgetten that they control the government, not the other way around.

[MikeKAY]

To be fair, tracking people down is already absurdly easy for those with the resources. Plus, if you just shut everything you are running down, dropping off the map in a sea of billions would be fairly easy.

[Randomus]

Oh, certainly. I, personally, am not worried about it, but it really depends on how the technology is implemented it and who is in control of it. I can easily understand why this kind of interconnectedness would make the majority of people uneasy.

[MikeKAY]

That's right, Mister...Shelderson. One of these lives has a future. *adjusts earpiece and dark glasses*

*spanks Alumette playfully* :D

Oh, certainly. I, personally, am not worried about it, but it really depends on how the technology is implemented it and who is in control of it. I can easily understand why this kind of interconnectedness would make the majority of people uneasy.

True that. Frankly though, I would feel safer with it being totally public, but run by a private commercial organization instead of something subsidized by the government.

[iggy880]

All Praise Googlezon. They made Microsoft their :bhump:

And now the :newspaper is for :geezer:

I actually don't know ow bad that would be.

[Alumette]

Pretty much true, ya. This kind of thing is basically inevitable given the rapid advancement of technology. Personally, I'm actually looking forward to it. It's the kind of advancement that EVERYONE gets to partake in and benefit from. Besides, I have never been in the camp of the paranoid nostalgics hell-bent to reversing progress and advancement..

Any way you look at it, the future is most certainly going to be interesting.


I agree. I think it's interesting to observe often how legislatures try to regulate where technology is going. This is important, as it often grows so quickly that most of our regulation is reactive instead of proactive, but its reactive nature means that, in my observation, technology is shaping society faster than legislation/political processes are.

The American founders *intended* for legislation to be a slow process, as they didn't want mob rule or kneejerk reaction to dictate policy (consider the Patriot act a fluke then, hopefully). But they never could have imagined that the pace of the world would quicken to the pace that it has. The nice thing about networking and mobile technology at this level is that it does have the potential to be an equalizer in terms of accessibility (provided we can shrink up that blasted digital divide), and I think it will empower *more* people to become active in safeguarding/exercising their rights, shaping the future, and participating in society *with* the following provisos:

-That people learn to think critically, look at multiple sources of information and question/analyze them.
-That people commit to the concept of lifelong learning: to stay abreast of technological adcancements as well as information on world events
-That people *use* the technology for the things that are important to them (and I'm talking large-scale values here: things like liberty and social justice and stability of society, which I know are always in tension but that's another essay, but I just want to differentiate it from people using technology for things that are small-scale important to them, on an individual level, which is something else entirely.)*

The fortunate coincidence is that, while America's founders probably never could have truly imagined a world that moves too fast for their political process to be anything more than reactive, we have arrived at a point in our society where our infrastructure is more stable than they could have hoped--the creation of which was their primary concern considering their wrestling with the questions of liberty vs. security (*sings*...and it's the sound of history repeating....). As such, reactive legislation is cushioned a bit by the fact that we're not all running rampant in the streets looting and rioting. Our infrastructure can absorb the disconnect between a rapid advance in technology that changes lives and gets into the public's hands, and regulation to prevent dogs and cats living together and mass hysteria. We're a pretty docile bunch, overall. I mean, we don't have civil wars breaking out and the like, being blessed to live in the first world.

The important thing, as Rando pointed out, that our docility doesn't turn to complacency. The potential for information bombardment could be a huge equalizing factor in preventing that. It could wake people up who are on that path. True, the ability to track is kinda big-brothery and creepy, but we have to remember that the information superhighway, if I may use a dated term, necessarily demands to be two-way. But ultimately we are in control of how much or how little we share about ourselves. Staying informed is the best way to protect what's individually important to us. By networking to this magnitude, we have no choice but to stay informed, as long as we choose to.

What the heck am I even saying? I think I'm just contemplating my navel here. But you did ask for comments, so there's a whole disorganized week's worth. I mean the post is disorganized, not the week you will spend reading it. I knew there was a reason I made this thread (http://www.cohguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1467)

Okay. Shutting up now.

*sorry for that horrible sentence. It all made sense in my head. I should have a nap.

[Solario]

Pretty much true, ya. This kind of thing is basically inevitable given the rapid advancement of technology. Personally, I'm actually looking forward to it. It's the kind of advancement that EVERYONE gets to partake in and benefit from.

Any way you look at it, the future is most certainly going to be interesting.


My problem is that it sounds a bit too idealic, I mean, the internet connects people in the same sort of way, and message boards works with connecting people giving them each a voice in our commercial world. And what is most of this wonderful thing, the internet, used for? Porn.

The whole one network, one paper, one publisher etc. sounds kind of scary, couldnt this potentially be used to blackout anything they might not want us to see?

[MikeKAY]

*big snip*

For what it's worth, I understood your post perfectly and I pretty much completely agree with it, you made good points. Now go have a nap. :p

[Alumette]

Oh my God! It's happening already!

http://www.theonion.com/2056-06-22/

[Magna Harrier]

So at what point does it take control of the nukes and wage war with humanity again?

[sheld0n]

That's right, Mister...Shelderson. One of these lives has a future. *adjusts earpiece and dark glasses*

Hmm, so i could either forget everything and join your little hive, or form a rebelion where i fight the system and gain awesome super powers.
Which one should i choose... :think:

One a more serious note, i agree with Mike that your latter post is very enlightning.

[ChairLegOfTruth]

Soo...
If i wanna be a journalist...
Does it mean im screwed?

I suggest you run, don't walk, to your FLCS (Friendly Local Comic Shop) and buy every Transmetropolitan TPB. Read them all until you find yourself quoting Spider Jerusalem chapter and verse; until you leap on local politicos from a great height and chase them through the streets questioning them, their morals, their family background and sexual preferences until they collapse into the gutter bleeding about the eyes and ears as they're humped to death by rabid dogs.

Become one with your inner gonzo and you will become the journalist of the future.

[sheld0n]

Sorry, i think i like the super powers idea more. :P

Btw, Onion 2056 <- Brilliant!

[Akamaz]

I agree. I think it's interesting to observe often how legislatures try to regulate where technology is going. This is important, as it often grows so quickly that most of our regulation is reactive instead of proactive, but its reactive nature means that, in my observation, technology is shaping society faster than legislation/political processes are.

The American founders *intended* for legislation to be a slow process, as they didn't want mob rule or kneejerk reaction to dictate policy (consider the Patriot act a fluke then, hopefully). But they never could have imagined that the pace of the world would quicken to the pace that it has. The nice thing about networking and mobile technology at this level is that it does have the potential to be an equalizer in terms of accessibility (provided we can shrink up that blasted digital divide), and I think it will empower *more* people to become active in safeguarding/exercising their rights, shaping the future, and participating in society *with* the following provisos:

-That people learn to think critically, look at multiple sources of information and question/analyze them.
-That people commit to the concept of lifelong learning: to stay abreast of technological adcancements as well as information on world events
-That people *use* the technology for the things that are important to them (and I'm talking large-scale values here: things like liberty and social justice and stability of society, which I know are always in tension but that's another essay, but I just want to differentiate it from people using technology for things that are small-scale important to them, on an individual level, which is something else entirely.)*

The fortunate coincidence is that, while America's founders probably never could have truly imagined a world that moves too fast for their political process to be anything more than reactive, we have arrived at a point in our society where our infrastructure is more stable than they could have hoped--the creation of which was their primary concern considering their wrestling with the questions of liberty vs. security (*sings*...and it's the sound of history repeating....). As such, reactive legislation is cushioned a bit by the fact that we're not all running rampant in the streets looting and rioting. Our infrastructure can absorb the disconnect between a rapid advance in technology that changes lives and gets into the public's hands, and regulation to prevent dogs and cats living together and mass hysteria. We're a pretty docile bunch, overall. I mean, we don't have civil wars breaking out and the like, being blessed to live in the first world.

The important thing, as Rando pointed out, that our docility doesn't turn to complacency. The potential for information bombardment could be a huge equalizing factor in preventing that. It could wake people up who are on that path. True, the ability to track is kinda big-brothery and creepy, but we have to remember that the information superhighway, if I may use a dated term, necessarily demands to be two-way. But ultimately we are in control of how much or how little we share about ourselves. Staying informed is the best way to protect what's individually important to us. By networking to this magnitude, we have no choice but to stay informed, as long as we choose to.

What the heck am I even saying? I think I'm just contemplating my navel here. But you did ask for comments, so there's a whole disorganized week's worth. I mean the post is disorganized, not the week you will spend reading it. I knew there was a reason I made this thread (http://www.cohguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1467)

Okay. Shutting up now.

*sorry for that horrible sentence. It all made sense in my head. I should have a nap.



it's summer vacation alumette, I understand you miss your students, but.. do I halfta learn?

[Magna Harrier]

My favorite Onion 2056 article thus far:

http://www.theonion.com/2056-06-22/infocapsulations/5/

[Alumette]

it's summer vacation alumette, I understand you miss your students, but.. do I halfta learn?

Learning is lifelong, Maz. And it happens everywhere, continuously, not just within school walls, if you let it. But it has to be an active process that you choose to undertake. I strongly recommend, given where that Flash video seems to think the media is headed, that you do so.

So, to answer your question... yes. ;)

/teacher lecture

:)

[Larke]

go Googlezon! down with microsoft!! :) hehehe

i wonder if it'll happen.

[Charon]

You wait. It's not long now. Bill's preparing his forces. Just you wait and see. World War III will start with Google vs. Microsoft.

[Akamaz]

My favorite Onion 2056 article thus far:

http://www.theonion.com/2056-06-22/infocapsulations/5/


that guy had better look out...

this (http://www.gwar.net/mythos/bios/oderus/index.php?gwarsid=bc64290ef45a99579216d2830a6b814b ) guy might have something to say about that claim to australia

[Randomus]

How would they possibly black out everyone? Googlezon's news service isn't controlled by one person or one country, it simply aggregates the information. It would be all but impossible to censor it.

[suburbanhell]

:hmm:

I kept sitting there, waiting, watching for this horrible ending where technology destroys lives....didn't seem to happen. I say that's not such a bad future.

[Solario]

I suggest you run, don't walk, to your FLCS (Friendly Local Comic Shop) and buy every Transmetropolitan TPB. Read them all until you find yourself quoting Spider Jerusalem chapter and verse; until you leap on local politicos from a great height and chase them through the streets questioning them, their morals, their family background and sexual preferences until they collapse into the gutter bleeding about the eyes and ears as they're humped to death by rabid dogs.

Become one with your inner gonzo and you will become the journalist of the future.

I'm with CLoT on this one. If so can I be a Foglet? (seriously everyday the world turns a little more into Transmet.)

And you're right Rando, now one just have to deal with halfassed sources.

[coldcut]

Neat thoughts, but like all futurism it's probably going to be a non-issue in another five years or so.

Rumors of the death of the mainstream media are way premature for exactly the reasons mentioned in the video. You don't want to get all your news from "Troy in Idaho" who "totally saw the president humping a dog." What's more likely is that you'll start to see major blogs become filters for the major news agencies. In other words, sites like dailykos, Powerline and Instapundit would become the major clients for groups like AP and Reuters, who would probably up their fees and encrypt their wire releases. Journalism will always cost money, and hopefully we'll see a shift to more real investigative journalism rather than the typical "Ralfie-the-brave-puppy" bull**** you see on the local news. If anything's against this vision of the future, it's the continued success of the local news.

The other thing I see working against this future is the inherent laziness of mankind. How many of you have friends who don't check their voice mail? (How many of you are friends who don't check your voice mail?) You're telling me that same group of people is going to upload traffic reports and pictures of the sky? Not going to happen, except maybe with a small group of neophytes who will already be onto the next big thing.

Ya know what I think is going to be most changed by the e-world? Dating. I think you're going to see more and more online dating the further into the century we get. It seems to be getting more and more common to know couples who have met online, and if I've learned one thing in my life, it's to never bet against sex and desperation.

[Randomus]

I am all about desperation sex.

[ChairLegOfTruth]

Well speaking as someone who met their wife online... :mad:

[MikeKAY]

Well speaking as someone who met their wife online... :mad:

I remember when you told that story here, I was really amazed at the time. :)

[Plasma Wisp]

By then, the 700 Club has become a Radical militant group looking to "clense the world".

[ThunderMace]

By then, the 700 Club has become a Radical militant group looking to "clense the world".

And it isn't now?

Anyway about the 2015 thing.
I liked their extrapolation even if I don't agree with it playing out like that.

I thought the ending was kind of weak because we are closer to that point than 2015. (the on the fly reporting thing)
I also think that newspapers and the like will never be replaced, due to the pleasure joy and convienience of reading. (this goes for books and magazines also)

[suburbanhell]

Well speaking as someone who met their wife online... :mad:

Yeah well I met my exfiancee online and she ended up leaving me for someone in my guild who played Ultima Online with us... :grumble:

So it ain't all roses. :mad:

[sheld0n]

Well, my folks met online... :chuckle:

[Mahaf]

Yeah well I met my exfiancee online and she ended up leaving me for someone in my guild who played Ultima Online with us... :grumble:

So it ain't all roses. :mad:
Ouch. Just ouch. Dumped for the l337 Rogue. :cry:

[coldcut]

Well, my folks met online... :chuckle:

For real? How is that possible? How old are you?

As for the online dating jokes, I don't really disparage it at all, it's just funnier if I do.

[Krypto]

Googlezon...lol, doesnt that sound funny?