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RedSwitchblade

07-16-2009, 09:23 PM

I'm going to base the new SG around a central color scheme of Blue and White, as I've at least decided this much: My current Duo with Joe, Chronal and Extradimensional, are ambassadors from an uncertain future and will be leading the SG although not part of the founding lowbie push. The group name may change as I cannot check right now, from work.

Chronal is No-Show's son from the future, but the future from which he came has since destabilized due to the meddling of Portal Corporation, Arachnos, and Ouroboros. As such, he and his compatriot Extradimensional are heralds from a future already forgotten by time, but the patterns by which it existed are lingering ever-present, here. The two come as advisers to the warning signs of many things that could come to pass and to thwart the advance of a similarly motivated villain group who has also pierced the veil and traveled backwards.

The two started their journey with experimental technology, which resulted in unpredictable hiccups in time as they progressed backwards. These "slips", as Chronal called it, would wreak havoc on the two as sometimes they would traverse the time-stream correctly, and sometimes would fling back centuries beyond their intended target. They would then have to spend days waiting for the device to cool down, (hiding to avoid damaging the time stream irreparably) then re-polarize the couplers and leap forward, praying for an accurate jump. After five years of leap-frogging, they landed in the year 2009, and were able to lock on to the residual trails of the time-traveling criminals. The initial clash rendered both parties beaten and bruised, and damaged both time travel devices beyond repair. The villains retreated to the Rogue Isles, but the heroes decided to reveal themselves to this time period, as they already knew it was on the brink of several world-altering events.

They founded the Temporal Guardians as a means to train new heroes against the potential for new threats, and threats that have not yet occurred in this timeline. New recruits are bestowed with the power of the Prism, a device which alters their powers to the hue and intensity of the Guardians' signature colors, and galvanizes them against the potential for temporal corruption. With Chronal and Extradimensional guiding them, they embark on a new life of uncertain future as they themselves continually alter their destiny by combating fate.

[Costume to come]

suburbanhell

07-16-2009, 09:46 PM

Love the name.

RedSwitchblade

07-16-2009, 10:32 PM

Got the name, will re-write the biography.

Masked Revenger

07-16-2009, 10:48 PM

I am so in! (Now I just need to free up a slot... or break down and buy a new one). Man, it sucks when $10 feels like a ton of money.

:mr: Chris

Galactoman

07-17-2009, 02:30 AM

Cool name and concept. Gonna start trying to come up with a toon for this one.

The Icy One

07-17-2009, 02:38 AM

Darn, this tromps my Blue Gaslights plan.

Galactoman

07-17-2009, 03:31 AM

Snagged the name "Aetas" (Latin for "era" or "time"), and rolled him as a Kin/Rad Defender. Don't know WHO he is yet, though.

Turbo

07-17-2009, 08:39 AM

I'll join up and make a character, I'll work on one later, I remember a really good time name, I hope its still avaliable!

itsthesheppy

07-18-2009, 01:05 AM

Count me in. I have a ready-made character. Timebender (http://www.virtueverse.com/index.php/The_Timebender). Kin/archery defender. throw some blue and white tights on him, and he's got everything he needs!

Galactoman

07-18-2009, 11:12 PM

Any ideas for the uniform yet? I'm syked about this whole concept.

RedSwitchblade

07-19-2009, 12:31 AM

Yeah, but I'm a hella bad mood at the moment. Give me some cooldown.

Galactoman

07-19-2009, 01:01 PM

Yeah, but I'm a hella bad mood at the moment. Give me some cooldown.
NP, hope you feel better.

suburbanhell

07-19-2009, 01:48 PM

Effin Reichswind.

RedSwitchblade

07-19-2009, 02:53 PM

Here's a screenshot of Extradimensional, who shares these costumes with Chronal.

Valkyrie boots with and without wings, and the magic high capes, will be disallowed as they're part of the costume-based hierarchy.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/spoofy812/extradimensional.jpg?t=1248015116

The first costume is his arrival costume, while the second is his more formal unit. Battle outfit to come when I get the slot.

Costume slots for the recruits still coming. Trying to figure out a problem I'm having with copy/paste.

RedSwitchblade

07-19-2009, 03:10 PM

So to clarify, only a few things are needed out of recruits for the costume:

The top chest piece, its color and patterns;
The bottom piece; pattern and color;
The belt.

I would like, but it is certainly not necessary, that those optional parts have some technology-based costuming in there.

Since I can't take screenshots for whatever reason of the "Load Costume" screen, I'm including the costume files here for you to look at in your own time.

TemporalGuard.costume contains just the mandatory pieces.

Costumes A-D contain variations on the theme, 2 male 2 female. I didn't think to make Gargantuan examples.

itsthesheppy

07-19-2009, 03:59 PM

Those costumes are fancy as hell. I like.

Now all we need is i16. Shouldn't be too long, right? Maybe a week or two?

:chuckle:

Galactoman

07-19-2009, 05:23 PM

Okay, here's my contribution:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/aetas-bio.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/aetas-pic.jpg

I cribbed your chest-straps... I vote they ought to be a mandatory part because they look real cool with the belt and colors.

suburbanhell

07-19-2009, 07:39 PM

Was thinking of entering Quality & Quantity in this, but also in order to run with the lowbies, I've got a Fire/Mental blaster that's been sitting on ice while I seek out a good name (best so far is Charonite). Anyway here he is in TG uniform.

http://home.comcast.net/~patuleia/MaybeCharonite.jpg

itsthesheppy

07-19-2009, 08:49 PM

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/itsthesheppy/TimeyNewlook-1.jpg

There. That should be all set. Took liberties with the goggles and belt, but figured it'd be fine since... well, those are his goggles and his belt. I went with the GuardianA template from that list you shared.

Turbo

07-19-2009, 10:10 PM

Here's Navigate (Mental/Devices Blaster):

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o30/Silly-Monkey-Studios/tobedeletedz-1.jpg

RedSwitchblade

07-19-2009, 10:30 PM

I meant to note that the templates weren't mandatory but just examples.

Valkyrie boots (With or without wings) are awarded as promotion pieces. So I'd steer clear of 'em for now. I won't stop you, I can adapt. No need for an arbitrary rule, anyway.

And you don't need to keep the hands and feet black, they were to just illustrate that they were optional to more easily pick out what's the actual costume.

Bitter Babe

07-19-2009, 10:42 PM

Geez I better get my butt moving on making a character!

itsthesheppy

07-19-2009, 10:47 PM

I'm not sure if this is intended to be a roleplay group, but I think it'd be fun if your leaderguy tried to explain to Timebender why he couldn't wear the fancy Valk-boots. :) Because HE likes 'em.

RedSwitchblade

07-20-2009, 02:03 AM

That works.

Green Tower

07-20-2009, 08:05 AM

Since I couldn't come up with a name, I snagged one from the name thread. I present my Mind/Mind Blaster: Timestrider.

Brian Wells is from the year 2571. The advancement of technology has given mankind the ability to travel through time and to advance evolutionary stages to create super humans. The Timestriders were formed to monitor the time stream and to combat criminals who would use time travel for evil. Then the Rikti reestablished a portal to their home world and another large scale invasion took place. Having learned from the mistakes of using brute force, the Rikti used their minds instead. Psychically gifted heroes were captured and used as batteries to amplify the Rikti thought network to dominate humanity's consciousness. Brian traveled back to 2009 to rid the time stream of the Rikti once and for all.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/46Defense/Timestrider.jpg

Galactoman

07-20-2009, 12:25 PM

Well, it's looking like we've got ourselves a supergroup.

::sits and waits patiently for i16::

::after 30 seconds, starts throwing chairs around::

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 01:21 PM

Hmm. I imagine we don't even have a timetable for closed beta yet, gives us a lot of time to hash out characters, concept, etc. If we're sitting on the lowbies until I16 perhaps we can put together a group of 30s and build some prestige in the meantime?

itsthesheppy

07-20-2009, 01:36 PM

::Gets hit with chair::

It's madness!

MADNESS!

I'm totally down to team up earlier than i16 to rack up prestige and stuff.

Galactoman

07-20-2009, 01:45 PM

I'm down as well; Aetas is already up to level 8 anyway.

RedSwitchblade

07-20-2009, 02:30 PM

Don't sweat the prestige, I'll farm it. I want to make an SG meeting hall for the induction ceremony anyway. And try to use base pathing to create "The Prism" :)

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 02:51 PM

Let me know if you want help with that, I'm sort of... re-invigorated for playing right now.

Masked Revenger

07-20-2009, 03:18 PM

I have a basic idea for my toon, but I'm not solid on the details yet.

I want to make someone that is also a time traveller, but instead of being from the future, this is someone accidently tossed into the present from the past, maybe as part of the "slips" Red and Joe's toon's have been watching.

I was originally thinking a mace tanker and make him a cave man, but that's kind of played out.

Now, I'm leaning towards a wizard. Maybe an AT I haven't played a lot, like a controller.

Whatcha all think? Idea on AT/Powersets?

:mr: Chris

itsthesheppy

07-20-2009, 03:31 PM

Maybe a viking?

RedSwitchblade

07-20-2009, 04:30 PM

Fire/Cold controller when i16 hits. Merlin commands the fury of ice and flames!

Blue fire, white ice :)

Masked Revenger

07-20-2009, 04:33 PM

Fire/Cold controller when i16 hits. Merlin commands the fury of ice and flames!

Blue fire, white ice :)

OooOOOoo... I Like it.

:mr: Chris

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 04:35 PM

So we're going with blue primary white secondary powers, or is there more to it?

RedSwitchblade

07-20-2009, 05:32 PM

So we're going with blue primary white secondary powers, or is there more to it?

If you're blasting or melee'ing with something, I'd prefer it to be blue. Defensive, white.

However, we may see what we get and in action, tweak it as necessary.

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 05:58 PM

Roger that. Just curious what color my fire/mental blaster is going to be dropping all over enemies in paragon. :D

Bitter Babe

07-20-2009, 06:23 PM

Help me pick something out, have no idea what I want to do :P

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 06:32 PM

K. Your first tank.

RedSwitchblade

07-20-2009, 06:56 PM

Roger that. Just curious what color my fire/mental blaster is going to be dropping all over enemies in paragon. :D

Tough call.

I'd recommend white fire, blue psi for you.

Beebs! Make a Dark Armor / Energy Melee tank Blue Armor, White Melee - You'll look a bit like a water-armored tank.

Bitter Babe

07-20-2009, 07:04 PM

Hmm that could be interesting and I haven't tried a tank yet.

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 07:34 PM

Not so sure about Dark Armor, isn't it like... ridiculous on end? Need something she's going to WANT to play.

Graphite

07-20-2009, 07:41 PM

This would be perfect for Graphite! But he is already level 50... and dead.
Do you have any suggestions on how he might be able to jump in?

Feel free to send me a PM.

Bitter Babe

07-20-2009, 07:42 PM

LOL I could try it and see how I go. Kind of want another scrapper other than my kat/regen...

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 07:42 PM

...Dead?

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 07:43 PM

LOL I could try it and see how I go. Kind of want another scrapper other than my kat/regen...

BS/Shields. :D

Bitter Babe

07-20-2009, 07:47 PM

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 07:50 PM

Probably looking at 1.5B inf to make her god-like.

Bitter Babe

07-20-2009, 07:52 PM

Well that can be in another thread, don't want to off track this one. I'll hit test this weekend maybe to see what I like, just thought being something other than the usual suspects for myself.

Galactoman

07-20-2009, 07:52 PM

Masked Revenger

07-20-2009, 07:53 PM

LOL maybe I'll goof around on test with some different things to see what I like. I'm only really starting to get into melee more after hanging back for a very long time. I had fun bringing out my LOL stalker last night. She's fun to play and would be even more with a proper build and IOs.

If you're into mele, and haven't played a tank before, might I suggest battle axe/sheild defense? I have a toon at 16 with those sets, and let me tell you, it's a ton of fun. Very different from MR, and yet still all up in the baddies. You get to be the agro spong as a tank, and let me tell you, ther'es nothing like having a group of minions swarming around you, and just taking the damage because you can.

:mr: Chris

itsthesheppy

07-20-2009, 07:53 PM

BB - Dark Armor is end heavy at first, but you do get a self heal that recharges fast enough to be used more than once per group if slotted correctly, and heals you for 100% health if you're around even three people. It's psychotically overpowered. DA's bit downside is no knockback resistance.

Graphite - This is a time travel themed group. Graphite may be dead NOW, but was he dead a year ago? A couple years ago? Is it possible he maybe travelled a little into the future when he was alive, the future being now? :D

Graphite

07-20-2009, 07:57 PM

...Dead?

Well, all toons are Dead once they hit 50 right?

:shinner:

In all seriousness, I did kill off the character. Offically, he "merged with the timestream" and has become a Mender of Ourboros. With the Time Travel nature of the character and the serene setting of the place, it felt like the perfect form of afterlife. There is alot more story behind it that I've been meaning to write up to post on his Wiki.

If people want to know more, I could easily add more here.

:shrug:

Joe Schmoe

07-20-2009, 08:03 PM

BB - Dark Armor is end heavy at first, but you do get a self heal that recharges fast enough to be used more than once per group if slotted correctly, and heals you for 100% health if you're around even three people. It's psychotically overpowered. DA's bit downside is no knockback resistance.

And the Knockback thing is easily fixed by snagging Combat Jumping, and throwing a Knockback IO into it. (Or Acrobatics, if you're crazy like me.) I managed to get a 50 DA Tank since the last time you and Burbs played. :lol:

Bitter Babe

07-20-2009, 08:05 PM

Will have to check it out. LOL when the heck do you play anyway? Weeknights? And hey we played this weekend so what you talking bout :P

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 08:09 PM

I managed to get a 50 DA Tank since the last time you and Burbs played. :lol:

Dude we've played every weekend for like a month now, STOP WORKING ON SATURDAYS! :D

Turbo

07-20-2009, 08:26 PM

Are the majority of us going to start as lowbies?

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 08:29 PM

I believe the plan is for everyone to start fresh when I16 is released.

RedSwitchblade

07-20-2009, 08:40 PM

This would be perfect for Graphite! But he is already level 50... and dead.
Do you have any suggestions on how he might be able to jump in?

Feel free to send me a PM.

Well, it's a group of time-travelers... Someone coulda snagged him from some time in the past.

In all seriousness, I did kill off the character. Offically, he "merged with the timestream" and has become a Mender of Ourboros. With the Time Travel nature of the character and the serene setting of the place, it felt like the perfect form of afterlife. There is alot more story behind it that I've been meaning to write up to post on his Wiki.

If you want to roll a new version of Graphite, Extradimensional and Chronal could have yanked him seconds before death. However, this group will stand as an Ouroboros Watchdog as I 100% expect them to reveal as evil and or morally defunct (Hence they haven't titled the LoadScreen placard for it yet, because they're not who they say they are) so if Graphite is pro-Ouroboros you may have some contempt from the leadership.

Are the majority of us going to start as lowbies?

That's the plan. Looking good AND levelling as a team. This SG has a specific focus: Returning to the fundamentals of i1-i4 glory. We're going to knock heads, street sweep, parade, and banter in broadcast.

I believe the plan is for everyone to start fresh when I16 is released.

This.

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 08:52 PM

That's the plan. Looking good AND levelling as a team. This SG has a specific focus: Returning to the fundamentals of i1-i4 glory. We're going to knock heads, street sweep, parade, and banter in broadcast.

This is awesome.

Graphite

07-20-2009, 08:52 PM

Ok, a little bit more on Graphite's Backstory...

Peter Thompson aka Graphite original trip back in time to destroy Crey Industries was caused not via any form of technology but by means of the death of his son. His son was a simple super speedster until it was discovered he was not really faster than anyone else but able to maniulate and slow down time. Earth Prime was basically completely destroyed at this point with no hope of salvation. The only chance was to send send some one back in time, but in order to do that, Graphite's son would need to killed in order too cause a massive enough backwards temporal surge.

Fast forward three years. He had reached security level 50, yet The Frontline and Freedom Force had fallen, and with it Graphite's best work at protecting our world. In addition, the 2nd Rikti War was about to begin. There was a fundamental temporal disconnect for me... the character had evolved incredably complicated, and his background along with it. Really, there was no where to go since the 2nd War layed the foundation work for his entire backstory and now it and the CoVerse would be completely seperated by in game events. It was a lack of continuity that could not be ignored.

That's when I had the great story idea of killing off Graphite.

Through out his life in our time, Graphite had suffered from laps of simply not being present to brief movements inolving Alzheimer's and large losses of memory. Since he had not protection from the changes in our world timeline, Graphite was being erased from history. Physically he continued to get weaker, where once simple attacks caused devestating damage. What could not be ignored was the physicalogical damage, the tremendous guilt at killing his own son over "nothing." With invasion enimate, Graphite decided to go out with one last hoorah: "the use of his advance knowledge and technology to destroy the Rikti Zone Crash Site for good."

The plan was elaborate yet well organized on a massive scale, and I must say went very well (though I did not get the response and involvement that I was truely hoping). Everything was going to plan, until the eight man principle strike team encountered elements of Graphite's very own past. Four Future Rikti Heavy Assault Suits had travelled back in time, calling themselves the Angels of the Apocalypse, and were well on their way of decimating the unit. It had seemed in his ignorance, and rash action, Graphite had ignited a temporal cold war that would continue to esculate... taking not only the future but our own present with it.

Yet if one were to examine the details, there was more afoot. A resident psyhic on the team quickly realized that these horrors were coming from Graphite's own mind. In fact these threats were nothing more than the fear, anger, guilt and anguish of his troubled past come back to haunt him. Closer inspection showed that our hero was nothing more than a Temporal Ghost with too much unfinished business. Together amonst his remaining friends, Graphite achieved his greatest achievement of conquering his own personal deamons. And so Peter Thompson aka Graphite, the Silent Sentinel faded quietly into the night.

Those who knew him would remember Graphite as a Hero of Time that inspired hope and freedom, for the Future is never set in Stone. Now two years have passed, and the existance of Graphite has become that of a distant memory. It is said that if you go to Ouroboros and listen... really listen, gimps of Peter can still be found. Some claim that he did not really die, but only to be resurrected as his true temporal self: a Mendor of Ouroboros. Is he to return to Paragon City? That mystery in of itself remains to be seen. But perhaps someday... someday.

suburbanhell

07-20-2009, 08:55 PM

physicalogical?

Graphite

07-20-2009, 09:05 PM

physicalogical?

Shut up Burps. I are Engiganear.

Not sure about being Pro Ouros or not, since I have never played any of their missions. I could easily see Graphite as having a Phoenix Rebirth, where the ashes of the past give birth to the new. My leaving thoughts were when ever the Hero of Time was needed, Graphite would apear (which also helped to explain the some times large months in his absenience). Lets just say a Daniel Jackson Styled Resurrection is entirely possible. The only question becomes on how to do it.

itsthesheppy

07-20-2009, 09:26 PM

Well, Timebender is a level 50, and I like the character a lot. I personally don't really have any problem exemplaring him for the entire duration that we're playing these characters.

Galactoman

07-20-2009, 09:29 PM

Shut up Burps. I are Engiganear.

Not sure about being Pro Ouros or not, since I have never played any of their missions. I could easily see Graphite as having a Phoenix Rebirth, where the ashes of the past give birth to the new. My leaving thoughts were when ever the Hero of Time was needed, Graphite would apear (which also helped to explain the some times large months in his absenience). Lets just say a Daniel Jackson Styled Resurrection is entirely possible. The only question becomes on how to do it.

These aren't too big of spoilers, so I'll skip the tags. Basically, throughout the Ouroborous missions you occasionally find unsigned letters, addressed to you, warning you that the Ouroborous organization is bad... but it's all pretty vague (as though they were gonna' do a whole Issue about it or something... but that hasn't seemed to happen yet). Also, "Mender Silos" is an anagram of "Lord Nemesis", so one can't be sure if he's trustworthy or not.

I still think it'd be interesting if Graphite just got yoinked out of the past, when he was still more of a street-level hero. It'd make for interesting RP to have a younger Graphite running around, especially for those of us who were around for his "last stand".

Turbo

07-20-2009, 10:08 PM

Sweet

Graphite had an illegitimate baby

there now you can join in

itsthesheppy

07-20-2009, 10:40 PM

Yeah, gonna have to second the idea of having a younger from-the-past Graphite show up. I think it'd be cool. He'd have to cope with living in a world where everyone already knows him. As a dead guy.

Galactoman

07-20-2009, 11:59 PM

Since Timebender's gonna be Kinetics-ing all over the place, I rerolled Aetas as a WP/Energy Tanker. Also, I'll leave him at level 1 this time instead of letting excitement get the better of me, lol.

Green Tower

07-21-2009, 06:47 AM

Timestrider is parked at level 2. Maybe we can try some roleplaying sessions? I hate not playing a character.

Galactoman

07-21-2009, 03:38 PM

Maybe we can try some roleplaying sessions? I hate not playing a character.
Normally I'd feel the exact same way, but in this instance I don't mind just sitting on the character. Because in all honesty this...

This SG has a specific focus: Returning to the fundamentals of i1-i4 glory. We're going to knock heads, street sweep, parade, and banter in broadcast.
...is what has me most excited about i16.

RedSwitchblade

07-21-2009, 03:44 PM

Haha, yeah.

I have a grand plan featuring some investment in my account - MA slots and character slots.

We should RP ahead of time though, specifically when the base is complete for inductions. We should also learn our own character's nuances for when we go live to add to the funny banter.

And a lot of stuff (stories) on the forums will lead into MA missions I (and later we) will design to keep things interesting. Using MA we can make all the theoretical time travel missions and premises we can handle. Wrap your brain around that...!

itsthesheppy

07-21-2009, 04:46 PM

If it's alright, I'm thinking of coming up with another character so that I can have two. I like being able to adapt to the needs of the team, and I can totally see the appeal of levelling a fresh character the old school way.

Also, Timebender is not so good for high profile hijinks because he can only tweet like a bird, which gets in the way of his ability to trade barbs in broadcast and mid-fight and stuff.

What does it seem like we're needing?

RedSwitchblade

07-21-2009, 05:19 PM

I'm very jaded on what I'm rolling. I have nearly two of every AT between 30-50.

I think a radiation/energy blaster may be my AT. I know we're appearing support-heavy ATM.

I do also want to note that this SG would be recruiting normal heroes not associated with time travel, and that would fun to have too if you all are looking for concepts.

For example, my radiation blaster will be named "Honorable", a name demanded of him now by Extradimensional for saving his life 10 years from now which earns him the position of Judge in the Tribunal of the Prism in the year 2019. For now, he's a confused kid who was going to register his name as "The Mighty Mollusk" because he didn't believe in himself or take his powers seriously.

Green Tower

07-21-2009, 06:42 PM

How about showing the roster so we know who's playing whom?

itsthesheppy

07-21-2009, 06:56 PM

I second that whole heartedly.

Bitter Babe

07-21-2009, 07:06 PM

I went back into the thread so Red wouldn't have to. Looks like the following currently:

Human Flashbulb - Aetas WP/Energy Tank
Burbs - Charonite Fire/Mental Blaster
Johnny Turbo - Navigate Mental/Devices Blaster
GT - Timestrider Mind/Mind Blaster

I know Sheppy has Timebender but plans to roll a new toon
MR is coming up with an idea and same goes for me. I am going either tank or scrapper route at this time but if we need anything in particular I can do another AT

Burbs and I will probably put in Quality and Quantity to help Red build prestige up.

Hmm Joe Schmoe, you going to make something for this one :P

Masked Revenger

07-21-2009, 07:24 PM

I have a concept for my character, I just can't put it into play until I16, because the power selections aren't available right now.

I'm going to make a wizard Fire/Cold controller. He will be called Edwin Moonfire. Still working on the backstory, but so far what I have is that he's an 12's century English wizard and noble, who used his powers to protect the commoners on his land. I know that I want him to have had some kind of encounter with Mender Silos, and that results in his being thrown forward in time to the present day, where he is recovered by Extradimensionl, but I'm still working on the details. I'm planning on putting together the costume tonight some time, so I can put up a screenie. I'm hoping that I'm not limited to the tights, because I want to make use of baggy shirts and the wizard parts from the Magic booster pack.

:mr: Chris

Bitter Babe

07-21-2009, 07:26 PM

Nice idea MR :)

itsthesheppy

07-21-2009, 07:40 PM

Looks like we'll be light on Melee. Might look into a scrapper, then.

RedSwitchblade

07-21-2009, 07:49 PM

OOooOOOOoooOOOOoooooooo!

Spines/Elec Armor scrapper... could be... holy crap...

Claws/Elec for that matter could be fast as bajeezus.

Bitter Babe

07-21-2009, 07:56 PM

I can do one and Sheppy the other LOL ;)

itsthesheppy

07-21-2009, 08:23 PM

Maybe we could make a matching duo. I call spines, since I've never had a spines guy.

Though I'd only wanna do spines if you can change the color of the spines AND/OR the gooey awful sludge-blood that oozes out of you when you use them.

Masked Revenger

07-21-2009, 08:36 PM

Though I'd only wanna do spines if you can change the color of the spines AND/OR the gooey awful sludge-blood that oozes out of you when you use them.

Thats half the fun of spines!

:mr: Chris

Turbo

07-21-2009, 08:38 PM

u can change the color of spines I read

since we are waiting for I-16, I think for our ahead of time roleplay and stuff I'll keep Navigate as a "Mental/Devices Blaster" but when I-16 comes out I might turn him into a "Devices/Psi or Sonic or Rad or something" Defender.

At that rate I may change his name to "Doohickey" but I don't know.

Bitter Babe

07-21-2009, 08:42 PM

It sounds like you'll be able to change the color of just about everything.

I'll try the claws/elec. I need into the beta when its ready so I can test it out :)

Hydrothermia

07-22-2009, 07:18 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/Hydrothermia/TimeJack.jpg

For now a DB/SR Scrapper: Time Jack.

time jack (noun) - a living device which can stop time allowing one to perform maintenance on a time stream

Jackson Turner looked like a lucky man to people that knew him, but that wasn't truly the case, he just knew what would happen and would change the future to his benefit. The young Mississippi man's journey started with a trip to a casino on the river, easily winning some money on a black jack table. His appetite grew after cycling through the various casinos, his new target became Las Vegas. Things were going well on his little weekend trips to Las Vegas, however he was getting greedy and it started to get him noticed.

There are always drawbacks to most abilities, such as his, there is a point of no return once a certain amount of time has passed, making a foolhardy move, because he was curious to see what would happen if he let things perspire without his hands dabbling in it. He was severely beaten by the casino's "security detail" and told him to get out and he ever showed up in Vegas again a worse fate would befall him. The great distress he suffered let his mind slip out if its usual awareness, bloodied and bruised he returned to his Mississippi home to have received a letter from an unknown source to show off his card playing prowess. With no bad feelings inkling he decided to take up this offer at the Golden Giza on the St. Martial isle. This is where everything changed for the man with a "special" talent.

suburbanhell

07-22-2009, 11:05 AM

Ok, now THAT is cool.

itsthesheppy

07-22-2009, 12:24 PM

That is pretty cool.

*grumbles, scrapping the DB character he made last night*

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 12:31 PM

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 12:37 PM

Save it for your second costume - that's when we get to break into our individuality. (Afterthought)

Masked Revenger

07-22-2009, 12:46 PM

I just red your post on Hydro's costume, Red, so let me know if I need to scrap this idea for Edwin's first costume.

Anyway, here's what I came up with last night.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/BlanchPrez/CoH/EdwinMoonfire.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/BlanchPrez/CoH/EdwinMoonfire2.jpg

:mr: Chris

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 01:53 PM

Just lose the cape for now - you can substitute the over-the-shoulders Valkyrie cape for now, and I retract my restriction on chest detail.

Otherwise, well done.

I see a lot of people doing black gloves and black boots - I just want to make absolutely sure you guys know it DOES NOT have to be that color. The basic template with the black boots and gloves was only to illustrate which parts of the costume were being mandated. You do not need to have black boots or gloves.

I may start a new thread for costumes just to make everything crystal clear.

Bitter Babe

07-22-2009, 01:59 PM

I don't know, I think the black gloves and boots go well with the rest of the color scheme.

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 02:00 PM

I rolled Honorable last night as a small boy, haha. This is gonna be fun. A child in the presence of men and robots.

Dark Melee, Fire Armor scrapper. He'll be a healing god. White armor, blue melee. Can't wait.

Bitter Babe

07-22-2009, 02:01 PM

Sounds awesome. You'll be surrounded by men, robots and one woman since I never play male characters :)

suburbanhell

07-22-2009, 02:13 PM

I honestly still haven't decided on my character yet. I'm afraid that I won't like fire blasting, what with not having ever liked being a blaster and will want to re-roll. I did snag the name Codecracker for this character this morning, and he'll probably maintain the look I posted earlier though, my thought being that he can manipulate numbers to such a degree that he can actually change objects, space, and time around him, etc. Unless I make him a chick. Or like a dragon or some ****.

Bitter Babe

07-22-2009, 02:28 PM

I like the name and the idea around it.

itsthesheppy

07-22-2009, 02:33 PM

Hm. I'll have to see a full, comprehensive list of the archetypes of the team before deciding on my backup character.

Masked Revenger

07-22-2009, 03:01 PM

I don't know, I think the black gloves and boots go well with the rest of the color scheme.

Yeah, me too. I thought about changing the colors of the gloves and boots, and even no gloves at all, but in the end, I like the way the black glove and boots came out.

:mr: Chris

Hydrothermia

07-22-2009, 03:30 PM

You didn't follow the uniform at all, Hydro. Chest Pattern, Belt, Legs and I'd prefer no chest detail aside from the straps. Download the costume to make sure you got the colors right. Uniform! Uniform! ONE OF US.

Save it for your second costume - that's when we get to break into our individuality. (Afterthought)

Heh, you should've figured that as much in the least. I really hadn't looked at the costume, I just wanted to put something together to see if it would fit.

Yin

07-22-2009, 04:02 PM

Hrm.

I'm keeping my eye on this.

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 04:03 PM

The costume is going to be our "Patrol" outfit so when we make showings of the SG we need to look analogous. I'm trying to take this to a level of immersion in that consistency breeds recognizability, is all. There will only be one costume like so, and promotions will let you add things like the High Collar or Valkyrie boots as a symbol of leadership.

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 04:07 PM

After re-reading the bombardment of stuff in this thread from its conception, I should note: I wanted the belt to remain consistent because I had this idea that it's a device that anchors us all in one common timeline - it's a hard idea to explain without a drawing, but it basically keeps us all in sync with any timestream meddling done by the group and prevents us from being altered by the meddling of others.

Bitter Babe

07-22-2009, 04:14 PM

Makes sense to me.

Also, I was thinking whenever Burbs has time, do you want the group to have its own section instead of just this thread? This way you can post costumes, etc. in different places and it will be easier to read?

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 04:36 PM

I could do that. I was also thinking about merging this group into the coalition we already have with Dawn Patrol and Paragonian Knights and using the tdop.org/forum webspace with the PDPGlobal channel. Bringing new blood into a coalition is always a good idea and a source of RP for everyone.

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 04:40 PM

Another thought was to see if anyone else on the boards would want to run an opposing faction - specifically a group dressed and power-colored counterpoint to us, and consisting only of people not in our hero group. This would be fun, as we can plot against each other without anyone cross-alting and knowing all the details. Then we can base raid... oh man that would be kind of super-excellent.

Bitter Babe

07-22-2009, 04:42 PM

Yeah Burbs can put the group in the sub forum (unfortunately us blue name folks can't do that) and put you as mod of it and anyone else if you want on Guru. If you use the dop boards its fine as I already have a log in.

Edit: ooh cool idea Red. Damn I better get creative or I'll put booted out before it starts lol

suburbanhell

07-22-2009, 04:55 PM

I won't have time to re-structure this into a separate forum until tonight when I get out of work, just let me know what sub-forums you'd like within it as well (can name them anything). Can also create a pw-protected zone if needed.

suburbanhell

07-22-2009, 04:56 PM

Sir Serpa

07-22-2009, 05:38 PM

After I read the opposing faction idea, I subliminally did the pose in my Avatar.

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 05:54 PM

Hmm. Red & Black square designed villains vs Blue and White circular designed heroes. And no crossover, A player can only be in one, not the other. I like it.

I would vote against red and black villains. Too obvious and overdone. Now, orange and dark grey? I may be down for THAT. :) Color theory indicates that blue and orange are natural opposites on the color wheel - Red and Yellow are the primary colors making it, which leaves out Blue... see what I did there? Grey because black is overdone :P

After I read the opposing faction idea, I subliminally did the pose in my Avatar.

Interesting. It'd require some adherence to some outlines, and you could recruit at will - but it's RP, to what degree I'm not sure yet. I don't know how down you are with that.

Sir Serpa

07-22-2009, 05:59 PM

I can do that since the concept appeals to me. I'll have to roll something for it, though. *rubs chin* We'll talk. =p

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 06:00 PM

His Highness would work and already has the costume, just not the colors :P

RedSwitchblade

07-22-2009, 06:03 PM

Or, let's see. Temporal Guardians is run by a Controller and a Warshade... The opposing faction could be run by anything... ever wanted to play a Stalker? LOL

Edit: We'd have to settle on a color scheme. Dark colors likely won't work well for Power Customization. Black or Dark Grey fire would look bland.

*snaps fingers*

Orange and black outfits, but the Power Customization is Orange and White! That way the outfits can look intimidating while you use orange/white defensive auras and orange attacks. I smell a feud boiling over the power customization technology redside, the power of the Prism was siphoned and polluted!

Sir Serpa

07-22-2009, 06:07 PM

I'm going to mess around in the tailor and see what I can come up with.

suburbanhell

07-22-2009, 06:34 PM

I would vote against red and black villains. Too obvious and overdone. Now, orange and dark grey? I may be down for THAT. :) Color theory indicates that blue and orange are natural opposites on the color wheel - Red and Yellow are the primary colors making it, which leaves out Blue... see what I did there? Grey because black is overdone :P

Red/Black was sort of an arbitrary "fill in the blank".

Graphite

07-22-2009, 06:55 PM

Hmm, I can't come up with a good idea or what I want to do... My brain has had basic writers block for about two years now I think and its hard to thaw out.

Don't think I like the idea of Rerolling Graphite as a younger version of himself. That basically means he would be the same thing of what I've already done before (or possibly switching to Inv). No thanks, I like where things have finished.

I do like the idea of a Reincarnation but have no thoughts on how to do it. I did think of maybe some Nanites are still around that have given a new hero their powers. Then there's Johnny's idea of an illegitimate child which is just to funny not to consider. Any females willing to contribute? *wink*

Next comes the issue of what to play...

I have two Tankers and two Scrappers already
I've done Claws, Dark Melee, Fire Melee, Elec Melee, Martial Arts , Spines, Super Strength, Stone Melee and War Mace .
Also Dark Armor, Fire Armor, Stone Armor, Regen, Shield Defense, Super Reflexes, and Willpower.

Of course I could roll an entirely new character, in which I have do ideas on what to do.

Sets I want to play more of but haven't:
Duel Blades
Spines
Ice Armor (maaaybe)
Elec Armor (maaybe)
WP Goodness
Sonic Attack
Mental Manip
Dark Miasma (maaaybe)
Kinetics
Earth Control
Plant Control (maaaybe)

Hmmmm

Did anyone claim Spines, WP yet?
Edit: Aaaah, I see Sheppy did. Want to make a Havok Style Duo?
If we could have Metal Spines, I could totally make that work.
Sonic, Mental Manip might do good too. Edit: Which we seem to have alot of, lol.
I've wanted Earth Control for a looong while now, but figured I'd save it for a Dom.
Dual Blades has been tricky to, since I have trouble getting into the concept.

Galactoman

07-23-2009, 04:45 AM

Kinetics
Earth Control

I've wanted Earth Control for a looong while now, but figured I'd save it for a Dom.
This

Graphite

07-23-2009, 02:41 PM

This

Agreed, but do you have any great ideas for one?

:D

Write now I'm working on a first draft on a Spines/WP Scrapper and will post his bio shortly...

RedSwitchblade

07-23-2009, 02:54 PM

Okay, so I've made some decisions.

Firstly, I feel there should be a villains equivalent. I stand by the notion that there is no cross pollution with alts. We're going to have genuine nemeses, not ones of our own design.

Secondly, Joe and I will be the only ones walking both sides of the cape - only to maintain - not to lead villainside.

Thirdly, I will write up a template for hero dossiers. Then the villains, if so motivated, will throw up theirs PLUS single out whatever hero they feel like arch'ing.

Which brings me to fourthly: We're going to be a light RPPvP guild. Get ready for this!

And fifthly, I need to speak to Link about running and recruiting redside. Any observers or interested parties want to join in on the redside faction?

Grae Knight

07-23-2009, 03:27 PM

I would be game for joining Link villain side. It might be the extra motivation I need to get more involved over there. Figure with so many jumping onboard for the hero side you may need a few villains to smack around.

I assume it will be the same rules, all members powers would be the same colors?

RedSwitchblade

07-23-2009, 03:32 PM

Grae Knight

07-23-2009, 03:37 PM

Orange and black costumes, Orange and White powers. Preferably orange blasts/melee if it can be helped.

Orange and white? Hmmm..reminds me of those sherbert push-ups one would get as a kid :)

RedSwitchblade

07-23-2009, 04:00 PM

Orange and white? Hmmm..reminds me of those sherbert push-ups one would get as a kid :)

Orange stands opposite of blue, and black blasts would look dull. Decision stands.

Grae Knight

07-23-2009, 04:03 PM

Orange stands opposite of blue, and black blasts would look dull. Decision stands.

I got no problems with it, just making an amusing observation :).

Galactoman

07-23-2009, 04:18 PM

Orange and white? Hmmm..reminds me of those sherbert push-ups one would get as a kid :)
I could totally go for one of those right now.

::wonders where the **** the ice-cream man's at::

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Agreed, but do you have any great ideas for one?

:D

Not sure, but I think Earth/Kin would be a lot of fun, especially when you hit 32 and have a super-speedy little rock-guy runnin' around.

Maybe he'd be able to manipulate the timestream, but only on an extremely localized level (like speed-boosting someone, or slowing someone down). His Earth Control could be, like, speeding up continental drift... or something. I dunno. I'm hungry.

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I like the idea of the two groups being totally separate. No "Oh, crap, RPPvP event. Which side do I take?" decisions.

itsthesheppy

07-23-2009, 04:26 PM

I think I'll stick with Timebender, then. It'll help out the heroes to always have a maxed-out kin defender to kick butt with.

Bitter Babe

07-23-2009, 04:28 PM

An earth/kin would be fun. I have a earth/energy dom and she's enjoyable so far and I have a ice/kin controller who is a lot of fun as well. Just know you will need to be able to keep up with the buffs, some folks (you know who you are!) can get antsy when the speebs runs out.

Xanatos

07-23-2009, 05:52 PM

I'm down for the villaingroup.

Werd.

I have an old character to recreatizzle for this.

Hydrothermia

07-23-2009, 06:11 PM

I'm going to pull Time Jack off of the list, since I already have a "time" based villain; Still Frame. I'll use her for the opposing faction.

RedSwitchblade

07-23-2009, 07:54 PM

I think I'll stick with Timebender, then. It'll help out the heroes to always have a maxed-out kin defender to kick butt with.

Preference is to start both the SG and VG with a similarly level-ranged group for some sort of twisted utopian idea of balance on both sides - I don't want one side stacked with leet IO builds or 50s exemping down with all those extra slots and powers when the first event rolls around at the time of Bloody Bay eligibility, ya dig?

I'm down for the villaingroup.

Werd.

I have an old character to recreatizzle for this.

Love to have you, and as this is an RP/teaming centric group, try to keep him out of the MA - unless you turn off XP and just farm for money or prestige, ya fizzle my drizzle?

I'm going to pull Time Jack off of the list, since I already have a "time" based villain; Still Frame. I'll use her for the opposing faction.

What level is Still Frame? I'm trying to keep everyone at an even plane, at least for the start. I'm leery of the first event I have brewing in my head where we clash at Bloody Bay and perhaps the majority of us are 15 but we get rolled by a bunch of 25s with extra slots and powers... know what I mean?

Masked Revenger

07-23-2009, 08:19 PM

Since the idea is the have everyone stay roughly the same level, are we going to level pact our toons?

:mr: Chris

RedSwitchblade

07-23-2009, 08:46 PM

Since the idea is the have everyone stay roughly the same level, are we going to level pact our toons?

:mr: Chris

Now THERE is an idea. A buddy system will be implemented using level pacts! Everyone gets a duo-mate as an icebreaker for entry to the club. This also means MR can disappear for months at a time and still keep pace ;)

RedSwitchblade

07-23-2009, 09:57 PM

I did a preliminary costume for the Yet-to-be-named villain group; Mandatory pieces are the Chest, Legs, and Belt. Orange and black. Don't use this actual costume, just use it for reference. That's actually going to be the costume for my Ice/Rad corr I'm going to put into the VG to monitor it (And level it outside the VG on my own time).

Hydrothermia

07-23-2009, 10:59 PM

Looks really, really bad... I suggest this (ignore gloves, boots):

Xanatos

07-23-2009, 11:23 PM

Love to have you, and as this is an RP/teaming centric group, try to keep him out of the MA - unless you turn off XP and just farm for money or prestige, ya fizzle my drizzle?

Mate I hear you. Story-focused "level-pacted-but-not-we-just-level-together" is the order of the day!

Things are about to get...Mcfresh.

Yin

07-24-2009, 01:22 AM

What's fun with Earth Control? I have this concept for DCUO, but would like to try it hear too.

RedSwitchblade

07-24-2009, 01:46 AM

What's fun with Earth Control? I have this concept for DCUO, but would like to try it hear too.

HEAVY AOE control. AoE immob, AOE sleep, AOE slow, AOE knockdown, AOE hold which is a tick-autohit... Not all of these powers work well together, but damn, it is total control at its finest when you find your groove. I paired it on my dom with energy... Power Boost -> Domination -> Quicksand -> Earthquake -> Volcanic Gasses .... fun as hell to watch :P

Masked Revenger

07-24-2009, 01:59 AM

Now THERE is an idea. A buddy system will be implemented using level pacts! Everyone gets a duo-mate as an icebreaker for entry to the club. This also means MR can disappear for months at a time and still keep pace ;)

I don't disappear for months at a time. Weeks, maybe, but not months. :P

:mr: Chris

RedSwitchblade

07-24-2009, 02:27 AM

I'm fine with either costume btw. Committee vote on what goes in. BTW you got the wrong belt thar, Large Hydron Collider!

Grae Knight

07-24-2009, 11:01 AM

What's fun with Earth Control? I have this concept for DCUO, but would like to try it hear too.

It is also FX heavy which makes playing it alot of fun.

Anyone got screenshots of the costume, I don't have access to the game at work.

Galactoman

07-24-2009, 12:54 PM

It is also FX heavy which makes playing it alot of fun.
Agreed. It makes fighting Giant Monsters a whole new level of entertaining.

Anyone got screenshots of the costume, I don't have access to the game at work.

Here's Red's design:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/RedTempVillain.jpg

Here's Hydro's design:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/HydroTempVillain.jpg

I personally think the villain uniform should be just as spandex-ish as the hero one, so it can be easily seen that they are an evil analogue to the Temporal Guardians... so I threw this one together based off Red's original design for the TG:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/HFBTempVillain.jpg

I've already staked out my territory on blueside, so it doesn't affect me really, but I never pass up an opportunity to throw in my two cents.
;)

suburbanhell

07-24-2009, 01:02 PM

HEAVY AOE control. AoE immob, AOE sleep, AOE slow, AOE knockdown, AOE hold which is a tick-autohit... Not all of these powers work well together, but damn, it is total control at its finest when you find your groove. I paired it on my dom with energy... Power Boost -> Domination -> Quicksand -> Earthquake -> Volcanic Gasses .... fun as hell to watch :P

Hmm. That does sound fun, I may have to think about creating an Earth someday.

I personally think the villain uniform should be just as spandex-ish as the hero one, so it can be easily seen that they are an evil analogue to the Temporal Guardians... so I threw this one together based off Red's original design for the TG:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/HFBTempVillain.jpg

THIS.

Bitter Babe

07-24-2009, 01:18 PM

itsthesheppy

07-24-2009, 01:25 PM

suburbanhell

07-24-2009, 01:31 PM

Re-roll him. Be Timebender, Part 2, Level 1.

Galactoman

07-24-2009, 01:35 PM

Come ooooon... pleeeeeeeeease?

QUITCHER WHININ'! :P

I'll help you brainstorm later today when we do our comic-store run. I do definitely think Timebender should be in the group... he's too perfect a fit not to be... but A) I think we're all pretty much sold on an old-fashioned noob-run, B) I really like the idea of everyone being able to buddy up in leveling pacts, and C) As you pointed out earlier, Timebender can't talk, which would get in the way of our rollicking Silver Age banter.

RedSwitchblade

07-24-2009, 01:55 PM

Aww. But I have a readymade character that I really like to play that totally fits the theme, since he's a scientist that found a way to warp time around specific people. that's his entire thing. His name is even THE TIMEBENDER!

also, he's a defender. A kin defender, at that. His contribution to PvP will essentially just be trying to keep everyone with SB and maybe trying to drain the end of villains whenever he can find a chance. His offensive potential is almost negligable. By the time we're in a zone where he could even use the bigger stuff like Fulcrum Shift, everyone else will have IOs in their build too.

Plus, I'm totally tapped out of ideas. I tried to throw together a scrapper for the group, but ended up with a guy who looks like a muskateer, his origin is magical, and he calls himself 'Re Pierre' and fights with a rapier dagger. And he doesn't time travel. I like him, but I just couldn't find a way to fit him into the group.

Come ooooon... pleeeeeeeeease? I'll be EXing down, so it'll be just like I'm your guys' level, but with a really, really well-planned build. And while I could see the imbalance if I was a tank or scrap... but he's a kin defender! He's a speed boost ATM.

QUITCHER WHININ'! :P

I'll help you brainstorm later today when we do our comic-store run. I do definitely think Timebender should be in the group... he's too perfect a fit not to be... but A) I think we're all pretty much sold on an old-fashioned noob-run, B) I really like the idea of everyone being able to buddy up in leveling pacts, and C) As you pointed out earlier, Timebender can't talk, which would get in the way of our rollicking Silver Age banter.

Maybe I didn't make this part clear: Time travel is not a necessity to your origin OR your backstory. Honorable is part of the current timestream, but Extradimensional is (hilariously) vaulting him to revered status for things he hasn't done yet - right now he's an annoying kid but he's supposed to save Extradimensional's life in 10 years and earn an awesome title I can't remember right now.

Roll up an everyday character who's interested in tinkering with time. You don't even need a chronophiliac name!

itsthesheppy

07-24-2009, 02:46 PM

Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffine.

:P

Graphite

07-24-2009, 03:24 PM

Hmm. That does sound fun, I may have to think about creating an Earth someday.

Agreed. Thats why I want to make a Earth Dom someday.
And the Orange Costumes turned out better than I thought!

Graphite

07-24-2009, 04:49 PM

Ok, here is the first Draft of my intended character:

Charles Jenkins grew up among the wealthy elite of Paragon City, his dad a Stock Exchanger in Steel Canyon. Even though he attended a prestigious private prep school, he was the target of constant bullying, becoming the subject of much ridicule from his other classmates. This all changed when Charles was fourteen and literally snapped. The other teen suffered from a sever bite mark on his right shoulder while almost having his neck almost snapped off. There is no doubt that he would have died were it not for four adult staff members yanking Charles off of the “poor boy.”

Clearly Young Jenkins was to be expelled. His father decreed his enrollment into a JROTC military school with a program of strict discipline. However, life was not that simple… for the bully’s father held much weight on Mr. Jenkins trade portfolio. The blackmail was simple, if the boy was not exiled entirely from his father’s care then there would be no choice but use his political capital to end Mr. Jenkins career. In the face of financial ruin, Mr. Jenkins left his boy on the barren streets to fend for himself as if he was nothing more than an inconvenient pet.

Strangely enough, Charles did exceedingly well for himself. He was survivor, and lasted the next two years without incident before being hired as a Mechanic for Papa Johnny’s Auto Repair Center. John Smith was a kind old man who had a thing for runaways. He took care of them, sheltered them from the law, and gave them what scraps he could. In the end Papa Johnny was a better father then Charles ever had, who more importantly kept him out of the gangs that constantly beat the snot out of him for not joining up. On his Seventeenth birthday, Papa Johnny gave Charles an issue of Manticore Issue #1 and said nothing more than just think about it.

It was in that moment that Charles new he was destined to be a superhero. His tolerance for pain was thick and he enjoyed the added freedom being a hero would bring. He could literally do anything he wanted as long as he did not break one cardinal rule: Thou Shall Never Kill. Believing that punks should feel first hand what they delivered, he took on the Alias of Jack the Ripper. Going out at night with nothing more than a mask and a switch blade, he would beat any would be muggers within an inch of their life and then leave a note stapled to their limbs stating “Jack was Here.”

Needless to say Jack drew the attention of much of the public, including Villains. Professor Chaos was beyond demented. As a Telepath, he had been driven insane from the constant bombardment of mental thoughts and committed himself to destroying the very fabric of time and space. Jack would be his most prized weapon, his crowning design. With his superior powers, he easily captured the boy. It was in his laboratory that Jack faced brutal unending torture of the mind, body and spirit. He was pushed to the human limit, then pushed beyond it and broken.

The goal was to create an unstoppable beast of pure rage and fury. Professor Chaos installed metallic spikes filled with poisonous toxin to aid his abomination. Naming this new creation Entropy, he set to let it loose upon the universe. However, his work did not go without being noticed by the Temporal Guardians. They soon intervened, but not before Entropy was thrown into a time portal to that of 19th Century England. The battle was relentless before the assailant could be subdued. Seven servants were killed by the creature while narrowly escaping with her life was that of Jessica Bowman, future great-grandmother of Virginia Bowman, nanny of Manticore, the eighth and intended target.

After months of rehabilitation, the psyche of Charles was recovered. Horrified by what he had unwilling done, Charles was determined to stop evil more than ever before yet equally determined to recover and preserve his lost humanity. He eagerly accepted an invitation to join the Temporal Guardians in order to help pay back the debt that could never be repaid. Yet secretly he felt this would be his one shot at what he wanted most of all… revenge. Who in the end will win; the man, the beast or the machine? Only time will tell for sure.

Name: [Oh, I’m horrible at this part]
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Spines
Secondary: Willpower
Travel: [Thinking Leaping]
Origin: [Not sure, Science?]

The basics idea of this is a “What If” story. What if Wolverine had become a horseman of Apocalypse instead of Angel, which personally I think would have made a lot more sense. So I made him a hybrid of Wolverine and Archangel, much like I originally did with Graphite, who was a hybrid of Colossus and Cable. I wanted to give him a Nemesis, so threw together elements of Apocalypse and Professor X. If some one wants to use him, or he never shows up, that’s fine with me. Who knows, maybe an appearance in the Architect is warranted later down the road.

So, thoughts?

Turbo

07-24-2009, 08:42 PM

itsalll comin tagetha

Yin

07-27-2009, 06:31 PM

Tossing around the idea of creating "Time Control" with Gravity Control and Kinetics. I know it's been done many, many, many times before but I've personally never done it.

RedSwitchblade

07-27-2009, 06:54 PM

Not a bad choice IMO. I did grav/kin for a little bit but Grav felt slow to me.

Say, we don't have anyone with Illusion Control yet. I bet that would look awesome with Power Customization. Just a tangent thought.

Bitter Babe

07-27-2009, 07:17 PM

Aye that probably would look awesome, I will have to try it on Quantity when it comes out. I still really need to work on a concept and a name :(

RedSwitchblade

07-29-2009, 07:33 PM

Agreed. It makes fighting Giant Monsters a whole new level of entertaining.

Here's Red's design:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/RedTempVillain.jpg

Here's Hydro's design:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/HydroTempVillain.jpg

I personally think the villain uniform should be just as spandex-ish as the hero one, so it can be easily seen that they are an evil analogue to the Temporal Guardians... so I threw this one together based off Red's original design for the TG:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/adhesiveslipper/HFBTempVillain.jpg

I've already staked out my territory on blueside, so it doesn't affect me really, but I never pass up an opportunity to throw in my two cents.
;)

Can we get some opinions or a vote on this?

Bitter Babe

07-29-2009, 07:53 PM

Hmm I personally like the 3rd one, is similar to the heroside one and it's simple, not too much going on.

Masked Revenger

07-29-2009, 08:25 PM

I like Hydro's design best, myself. I think it should be different from the Hero design, not the exact same with opposite colors. The villains deserve a unique uniform.

:mr: Chris

Bitter Babe

07-29-2009, 08:28 PM

I can see your point, we probably shouldn't look like clones.

Graphite

07-29-2009, 08:31 PM

I think the two should be a mirror for the other so vote for the Third.
However, I wouldn't be at all aposed to switching it so that ours would be more like the Second.

:D

RedSwitchblade

07-29-2009, 08:46 PM

I'm personally staying AWAY from the third costume, second works for me but I would change the belt.

Bitter Babe

07-29-2009, 08:48 PM

I do like the second one too but I won't be wearing it, any VG people want to chime in?

Green Tower

07-29-2009, 09:05 PM

I like the second version. Just changing the colors is weak.

Hydrothermia

07-29-2009, 09:28 PM

I'm personally staying AWAY from the third costume, second works for me but I would change the belt.

Sorry that you don't like the tampon belt. :P

Turbo

07-29-2009, 10:19 PM

tampon belt ftw

The Icy One

07-29-2009, 11:46 PM

RedSwitchblade

07-29-2009, 11:50 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/TheIceyOne/Screenshots/essencethief.jpg

I was gonna suggest this guy, Essence Thief, for the villains before you guys had a costume scheme.. but now I'd have to revamp him alittle.. which I already have been out of boredom and I still like the middle area, cape kind of worked.. gloves and boots blended nicely. Maybe I'll remake him into the main costume type then give him this as a secondary later.

For both SGs, no "purchase required" booster pack pieces can be used.

That being said, Valkyrie pieces and High Collars are off the table to keep the playing field level. That's why the sets are so generic. It's fine as a second costume though.

The Icy One

07-30-2009, 12:05 AM

Gotcha, I might play around alittle more with the non-booster in mind.

suburbanhell

07-30-2009, 07:27 PM

I vote 3rd.

Grae Knight

07-30-2009, 08:00 PM

I vote 3rd.

Same, it lends to "accessorizing" more than the others.

Xanatos

07-30-2009, 08:32 PM

3rd looks the best :)

RedSwitchblade

07-30-2009, 08:56 PM

If we change the pattern for the 3rd to be more divergent from the hero one, I'm okay with that.

Graphite

08-01-2009, 01:42 PM

So after watching Ironman last night, I kinda want to make a Power Armored character with a temporal protection styled suit. Of course, that would end up being in conflict with the Supergroup outfit, but still it's the thought that counts.

:shinner:

Turbo

08-02-2009, 01:58 AM

so who is going hero and who is going to be a villain?

I'm having second thoughts about being one of the good guys so if the villain team is lacking in players I might swap

RedSwitchblade

08-02-2009, 04:12 AM

Graphite

08-06-2009, 01:32 PM

Not necessarily :P

Let me concoct an idea.

So.... It's been kinda quiet.

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 01:37 PM

Art takes time and I16 JUST entered closed beta. We have time. Patience young padawan.

RedSwitchblade

08-06-2009, 03:48 PM

I totally forgot. It happens. Give me another day or two.

RedSwitchblade

08-06-2009, 03:50 PM

So.... It's been kinda quiet.

Art takes time and I16 JUST entered closed beta. We have time. Patience young padawan.

Burbs, I think it's time for that subforum.

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 04:01 PM

Burbs, I think it's time for that subforum.

Yep. Need the details: ...just let me know what sub-forums you'd like within it as well (can name them anything). Can also create a pw-protected zone if needed.

RedSwitchblade

08-06-2009, 04:13 PM

Bah, still need a VG name. Details once that's figgered oot.

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 04:15 PM

Chronal Chaoticians...yeah I got nothing.

RedSwitchblade

08-06-2009, 04:27 PM

Entropic Causality...?

Sir Serpa

08-06-2009, 05:22 PM

Color Catastrophe!

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 05:27 PM

Chronal Crusaders
Ephemeral Empire
Perpetual .... yeah I got nothing still.

Turbo

08-06-2009, 05:35 PM

Chronal Cockslappers

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 05:39 PM

Something tells me THAT isn't going to make it.

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 05:46 PM

Yeah and who would want to join a group with that name

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 05:49 PM

Wanna join our group? What's it called? Chronal Cockslappers. Uhhh what do you do? We wank it through time. No thx. Bai. /petition

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 05:55 PM

Entropic Vagabonds?

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 05:56 PM

Chronal Vengeance

RedSwitchblade

08-06-2009, 06:01 PM

No, no no... and no!

We need something more ominous!

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 06:06 PM

LOL I'll try but I am honestly the least creative person you will ever meet :(

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 06:08 PM

The Bane of Time...christ I suck today.

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 06:10 PM

Well knock it off, today is not the day for us to be sharing the same brain! :P

Masked Revenger

08-06-2009, 06:13 PM

The Children of Chronos.

He was the Greek Titan of Time, and father of the Gods, eventually de-throned by Zues. Generally seen as a bad guy.

Alternatly, you could go the with the Robert Ludlem School of Naming, and use something like:

The Chronos Initive
The Temporal Imperitive

:mr: Chris

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 06:16 PM

Yeah, the titan...That's why I keep using Chron in most of mine...

Oh! Chronal Titans!

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 06:25 PM

I like it, wonder if it would be available. Should think of backups for when Red comes back and says no :P I kid!

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 06:28 PM

Oh...crap. Chronal Titans probably won't work, too close to that Kronos Titan for Malta

Nerfed

08-06-2009, 06:30 PM

You know, when I get back in the game, I've got a perfect bad guy to work against this SG if you do any PvP events... Timeslip! I also have a time travel themed hero, but don't think the SG costume thing works for her. Besides, she's already level 20, so no starting fresh. :|

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 06:33 PM

Well, she's only 20. You could re-roll.

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 06:34 PM

Chronal Colossuses or Colossi...? Fuck it.

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 06:41 PM

Chronal Sinners..Rapscallions..Seditionists...god I stink lol

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 06:42 PM

T1m3 B4nd1Tzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Edit: Wait...RAPSCALLIONS? You're not even trying. :P

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 06:44 PM

Hahaha shush you :P

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 06:48 PM

Delorean Empire
Flux Crusaders
Temporal Destroyers

bpphantom

08-06-2009, 06:51 PM

Flux U
Chronal Decimators
Time Crime

Hey, are the good guys COPS? Fighting Crime in a Future Time and all that.

Galactoman

08-06-2009, 07:01 PM

Chronal Cockslappers
Seconded!

-------

Honestly, though, I feel like maybe this VG shouldn't HAVE an evil-sounding name. Maybe something heroic-sounding, like Magneto's "Brotherhood of Mutants". Villains are often scariest when THEY think they're the good guys.

I still think they should be a bad-guy analogue to The Temporal Guardians, so maybe like "The Chronal Protectorate" or something.

Joe Schmoe

08-06-2009, 07:06 PM

Villains are often scariest when THEY think they're the good guys.

Amen to that! I agree with this. I think the VG name should present themselves as good guys.

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 07:07 PM

Well then work that brain of yours :P

bpphantom

08-06-2009, 07:29 PM

Time Copz
Time Stoppers (get it, like crime stoppers... )
Chronal Caretakers
Time Spree
Temporal Protectorate

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 08:07 PM

Protectors of History

The Icy One

08-06-2009, 08:11 PM

Order of Infinity.. could even use the Infinity symbol as a sg symbol. S'all I got.. *shrug* ..Or Infinity Order

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 08:33 PM

Infinite Empire

Bitter Babe

08-06-2009, 08:34 PM

Baysplosions? I need a nap

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 08:46 PM

Apparently.

RedSwitchblade

08-06-2009, 09:09 PM

Ah. Since the villains have corrupted a version of the Temporal Guardians' "Prism" around which the SG is founded, I'm considering the inconspicuous moniker of "Consortium of the Prism" which sounds innocent and ominous at the same time. It also sets up a propaganda crusade of who has the real stuff.

Graphite

08-06-2009, 09:38 PM

Amen to that! I agree with this. I think the VG name should present themselves as good guys.

Agreed, but unfortunately CoV doesn't work well with those kind of concepts. Now maybe with Going Rogue...

Also, I would like to go on record that if Energize (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=184623) actually happens, then I will have to seriously consider going Spine / Elec or DB / Elec. I've been wanting a character who uses metalic blades as a lightning rod against said villians for YEARs. Would require backstory rework (or potentially a who new concept), but reward would be well worth it.

suburbanhell

08-06-2009, 11:16 PM

After reading your post, Beebs says "BUT I'M THE SPINES/ELEC!" so... have at thee in a duel to the death you two. :D

Galactoman

08-07-2009, 12:28 PM

Graphite

08-07-2009, 10:03 PM

Forgot that part...

Can we get the front page updated with who is playing what character, AT and powers please?

RedSwitchblade

08-07-2009, 10:17 PM

We have a subforum now, signup for heroes is there.

We need a subforum under VGs for The Consortium of the Prism.

WingedAvenger

08-08-2009, 03:11 AM

I have a question, and forgive me if this was addressed already somewhere in the thread: Do all costumes have to be blue and white, or is leeway allowed?

suburbanhell

08-08-2009, 03:28 AM

We have a subforum now, signup for heroes is there.

We need a subforum under VGs for The Consortium of the Prism.

Done.

Graphite

08-10-2009, 09:14 PM

EDIT: Never mind on the confusion...

Graphite

08-11-2009, 07:26 PM

So in the sign up section we have three scrappers, of which one is also Spines, and I have this annowing thing about trying to be unique. So I present to you a "Plan B." Since this is a group effort, I'm very curious to here your opinnion on the matter regarding who you think I should play. Given the fact that we have few support characters, I might try to come up with a third alternative before making a decision and posting it all offical like. And with out further adue I present...

Jotunn the Frost Giant!
An Ice/Stone Tanker.

Backstory:
"I have seen Ragnarok and traveled back in time to prevent it. Many consider me an ageless magical creature of olde, but instead I reveil to you a secret: It is in fact merely all a highly advanced technology combined with my knowledge that has kept me alive this long, aging at a rate of one year for your thousand.

This Ice protective shell is nothing more than super evolved hibernation suit which bends both space and time beyond any understand you might have of science. True my Hammers look as stone, but I insist the are merely force shields covered in a snowy frost. After all, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

You see, I have been here since the dawn of civilization as man has grown to maturity. The Age of Heroes is again upon us. Yet the struggle will become more epic when the Fire Giants of Muspelheim do arrive as I have prevously fortold. Will you now aid me in preventing Midguard from burning into a fire Hel before at last it is to late?"

More Background:
Some how I just like the idea of a highly advanced time traveler waiting around for another crack at armeggedon. He's been mistaken for centuries as ancient myth, and more than likely the instruments of these tales. Yet passing among the eons has had noticable affects as he's become more Ent than Man over the years.

I even put together a general build to 40 in Mids the other night. The biggest problem I forsee is that A) already have a Stone Brute and B) hate only have three attack powers for a loooong time. On the plus side, this will give me pause to return to my original tanker roots as when I first started playing the game. Besides, every team needs that classical 8 foot hulking Big Strong Guy Right?

Graphite

08-13-2009, 07:19 PM

Ok, I've been poking at the Defender/Controller Powersets seeing if I want to make one for this group, and I definately want to try Thermal Radiation someday. Key word being someday. It looks like a solid mix of +Res Shields and Empathy followed by high level debuffs. I fking want Power of the Phoenix! Its like Nova... but as a Rez power... woah.

:yoy:

So yeah, anyway. I'm playing around with the idea of making a Stone/Fire Controller. I actually can imagine there being good synergy between other support characters as well. The only real problem is I don't think it wouldn't look terribly good with the assigned color coding. I also like the idea of Thermal Rad being his Primary Power, but it's not available to Defenders (which is highly annowing).

Of course that got me think that it may be better set on a villianous character. I can imagine myself playing a /TR Mastermind or /TR Corruptor or a Stone/ something Dom someday. Again key being someday. Frankly I could never understand why FIRE would help heal some one or resist damaging effects. Yet it could fit very well on a Deamon/TR MM with Going Rogue.

Again, I'll throw it out there to you guys. How would you guys do the color coding of Earth/TR Controller? How can Fire be of aid to anyone? Of course I have no Bio ideas ether. Frankly, we really don't "need" any more support characters I suppose. But, I figure I would kick this out to the folks and see if that spurs up any mommentum.

Kozzma

10-18-2009, 01:34 AM

Synthesis Prime

“Blessed” with the ability to accelerate or suppress growth, little Marry Prime, was a special child as she was nearly the last of her species as war and ruin had taken control of her dimension. The Temporal Guardians all but stumbled over the little girl trying desperately to rebuild a garden to feed the other survivors, but the survivors had seen what she could do, and hated her abilities. The guardians said that they could help her correct the problems in her time stream, but she would have to leave it to never go back.

If asked who she is, her response is almost always, I am Synthesis Prime, and we are the temporal guardians, we come from your future to correct our past, and we saw what you did there.

http://www.cohguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14500

Graphite

10-18-2009, 06:53 PM

She's a Plant/Kin Controller who's real fun to play with too. :D

Graphite

07-05-2011, 10:06 PM

/Neeeeecrooooo!!!

So I just had an epiphany. Details to come, but it involves Graphite and I’d like for him to take command of the Temporal Guardians. There would be a creative change in direction with a Green Lantern feeling now to the group.

Seeing as people are coming back, and this group never much got off the ground, I figured it’d be ok. I’d like the blessing of our founders too, in order to preserve continuity. And if my taking over doesn’t work, its ok by me, but worth a try.

Sorry, but I got to run and hopefully will have time to post more latter tonight.

:D

Antares

07-05-2011, 10:12 PM

Timecrusher, Timecrusher 2 (rerolled of course) and Timelimit are all eligible for this, I'm thinking...

Also: There is Nefarios Ghast.

All on VV

RedSwitchblade

07-11-2011, 01:47 PM

The group is still around, inert. I never delivered, too many awesome things kept happening that kept my focus elsewhere. I don't think I'll be relinquishing leadership, but you can certainly offer your direction. I've been playing that character for a while now and got over a million prestige the hard way: farmless grinding.

You're welcome to join, it's just not worth much more than a small base and a tag under your name.

And a bellend of a cunt leading it :D

Graphite

08-03-2011, 01:17 AM

Damn.

It’s been a month since my concept and I’m only now getting to writing it up. I guess this just proves the point that I don’t have the time or energy to command a supergroup. Oh well. I’m going to at least get it down on paper and if anyone is interested in incorporating my ideas let me know. PS: it can also be an alternate take on the Well of Furies too.

New/Additional Concept: A Green Lantern styled supergroup dedicating to protecting the various timelines. Keep the uniforms, I love that part. Keep Prism as a source of the teams’ powers source similar to the Lanterns’ rings. (Another alternative is that instead of drinking from the Well of Furies to become an Incarnate we are really taping into the power of Time itself, harnessing and focusing it into this single moment, to make a difference in this time to forever affect the future.)

For those who know a little about Graphite’s journey the “eternal struggle” which drives my writing for the character is the classical debate of Fate vs Free Will. Graphite epitomizes that of Choice, a conscious personal action that affects the future. However, this is constantly bumped up against Fate which is that nothing can change what can or cannot happen. If Fate actually exists than we cannot travel back and influence the events that created us (go back and time and kill my grandmother as an example). In my opinion, this would mean, even down to a quantum level, our actions would change nothing, like in 13 Monkeys. Hypothetically any change could also collapse that timeline, destroying the timeline of the time traveler. A lot of science fiction solves this issue with the Multiverse, alternate dimensions blah blah blah, however as I scientist I reject these theories based on the conservation of matter/energy.

To me it was really important that Graphite came from our timeline, in order to effect real change. I didn’t want to create a Trunks Scenario (for all those DBZ fans) whereby travelling back in time ultimately what he did was create a separate timeline. That to me isn’t heroic, while also playing around with the concept of “the needs of the many out way to needs of the few” produces great drama for time travelers. When you add to the fact that Graphite was literally destroying not just everything he hated but also every one he loved… that’s good interpersonal stuff.

So to get up to speed, Graphite has “destroyed” his timeline, merged with our timeline, and created a number of fun paradoxes along the way, without accomplishing anything.

So now, as a former defender of Earth Primal and mender of Ouroboros, Graphite’s focus has come to not just protecting our timeline, but ALL time lines from external threats. Think of each timeline as a planet in our Temporal Guardian Lantern Corps. Our goal is to protect them all. From whom you ask? Well, to steal from Star Trek, anyone who would violate the Temporal Prime Directive, ie any possible tampering from someone within their own timeline or in the cases of the Rikti and Emperor Cole, anyone who wishes to take over another’s timeline . That’s a lot of ground to cover, and hence why I’m driving him into a leadership role.

So now I’ll leave you to more possible additions to the group concept:

Any time we are “offline” we are in fact off patrolling and protecting the timelines of the multiverse outside of Primal Earth. To me I feel it is important to explain what my characters are doing, especially when they are absent for long periods of play time, and could further explain why the group has been MIA so much for so long.

Every time we do any of the new Raid content on Pretoria... what we are in fact doing is preventing Cole in that timeline from attacking Primal earth. The next Raid would be preventing Cole again, but on another timeline, so similar they are impossible to distinguish within our concept of the game. Think of it as Preatoria Earth 4563A and the next is 4563B where Steve decided not to jay walk.

Defining feature for recruitment into the group is that our characters have a strong sense of interdependence, a defined sense of Free Will and the self determination to protect others. Maybe it’s not needed, but I was drawing on the Lanterns with they’re concept of Willpower to harness their rings, and might prove a good launching pad for characters outside of us all being a group of time travelers.

Right now my proposed play times (at least what’s best for me at the moment and hopefully will become my stable playtime) is Monday and/or Tuesday Nights.

Sorry, but I don’t have the time to really proof read this as the baby is crying… so let me know what you all think!

:D