Warhammer Online

[Half Life]

Not sure how many of you if any at all are planning on trying it. Ive been playing for a little while now and I am having a blast. Public Quests are fun (if a little quick, few too many newbies running around), the RvR starts as early as level 1 if you want (im usually not a pvp guy, but this has yet to be a gank fest, teams seem balanced and the one with better tactics seems to win).


Not to say its not without its share of bugs, but none so far have been game breaking to me. There is one "target is unattackable" that gets really really annoying, but other than that the game looks and plays very smooth. The opening zones really make you feel as if youre in a WAR, there are things going on everywhere and the world is quite beautiful.

Anyway, i plan on playing at launch and just thought id bring this up in case any body else wants to join. We (myself and some friends) will be rolling up on the side of Order on the last RP server in the alphabet. We picked order because they are the underdogs. Hopefully our skill and better tactics will win the WAR for the forces of ORDER!! I plan on starting up a guild so everyone should have a place to rest their head.


Hope to see you guys in game, if you want to chat about the game or get in touch with me for more info please let me know.

[Cloud Runner]

Yep, Ill be playing.

[Graphite]

Undecided due to time and lack of interest in MMOs/Gaming.
This is one of the only few games that has my interest though.

[Moon Jump]

If dad's my insurance company didn't screw with us over the cost of my computer being replaced I'd at least give it a try.

I got to meet the two head guys at the New York Comic con and they were really cool people. Nice and down to earth. I spoke with the British guy and he was really nice. I told him how much I loved the videos and all of the plans they had.

Somebody let me know how the Squig Herder is. I usually play a Lock/Necro/Mastermind/Hunter so they look like the class I'd play.

When I played the preview build at the show they were using humans so I ended up being a druid and thought it was alright, but since I would have had the spell bar configured differently, it was hard for me to find a helpfully party spell to an attack spell.

[Sword]

Yup, seeing as I'm a Chaos guild leader and I've been following Warhammer Online since the original Climax version (that got cancelled) back in 2002, I'm ready to rock.

Any EU players planning to play Destruction and RP are welcome to check out my guild ;) (I go under the name Ralzar over there)

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16611

[ShadowAlpha]

If dad's my insurance company didn't screw with us over the cost of my computer being replaced I'd at least give it a try.

I got to meet the two head guys at the New York Comic con and they were really cool people. Nice and down to earth. I spoke with the British guy and he was really nice. I told him how much I loved the videos and all of the plans they had.

Somebody let me know how the Squig Herder is. I usually play a Lock/Necro/Mastermind/Hunter so they look like the class I'd play.

When I played the preview build at the show they were using humans so I ended up being a druid and thought it was alright, but since I would have had the spell bar configured differently, it was hard for me to find a helpfully party spell to an attack spell.

the squig herder is pretty awesome. i plan on rolling on with my friends when they get around to playing.

and the only bad thing i have found is the "target is unattackable" glitch. sucks when it happens on a public quest, but otherwise is pretty easy to deal with. definitely going to be playing on release.

[Sword]

and the only bad thing i have found is the "target is unattackable" glitch. sucks when it happens on a public quest, but otherwise is pretty easy to deal with. definitely going to be playing on release.

That bug has been going in and out in beta. It dissappears for a patch or two and then suddenly resurfaces. So it'll very likely be gone again by release.

[Antares]

My partner, Felvricken, got into the Beta for this. He admits that it's pretty cool, but it has high-end PC requirements that his PC just can't meet. Much like Age of Conan.

My answer to Warhammer: If they added a 40k on the end of that...I'd be there! :)

[ShadowAlpha]

its requirements aren't actually all that high. yeah, if you want to run it with all the bells and whistles, then you need a better pc. but i can run it with my 3.0 ghz proc with basically no problems. just turn down the graphics and it runs a lot smoother. i'll be there opening day. might have to take off work.

[Larke]

I've tried it, but it so far isn't my cup of tea. I guess I'm just too used to WoW. I didn't think the textures and scenary were better or even par.

[Half Life]

Wow, guess its just a choice of styles. Youre the first ive heard that said WoW's graphics were better. To each his own i guess, enjoy your time in Azeroth.

[razoras]

Complaints about the graphics aren't uncommon, really. I'm not sure I agree with it, but they definitely didn't try to repeat Age of Conan of Tabula Rasa in graphical details.

I wasn't interested in Warhammer Online until I played on my wife's account this weekend. Now I've got a pre-order! It'll be a nice MMO to rotate through during my ups and downs with CoH. I try to do it with World of Warcraft and end up wasting a whole month of subscription on one or two evenings of play.

[Sword]

The graphics aren't done yet. Up until recently it's all been low-res only, then a weird mix of high-res, med-res and low-res. Recently we finally got graphical options ingame but it's still not fully implemented. So no one has yet seen the game in full high-res with the bells and whistles on.

[bpphantom]

I try to do it with World of Warcraft and end up wasting a whole month of subscription on one or two evenings of play.

That's why I did a lifetime sub with LotRO. I can take a few days or a week here and there and it's always ready.

[razoras]

The graphics aren't done yet. Up until recently it's all been low-res only, then a weird mix of high-res, med-res and low-res. Recently we finally got graphical options ingame but it's still not fully implemented. So no one has yet seen the game in full high-res with the bells and whistles on.


The graphics aren't done? They're releasing in 5 or 6 days. These are the graphics we're getting. At most we're going to see some bloom sometime soon.

[bpphantom]

Warhammer servers go live on the 18th of Sept. Lots of time left. Over a week.

[razoras]

That's not a lot of time at all.

[bpphantom]

Sure it is. I'll bet there will be a patch issued Day 1. First person logging in with a brand new copy of the game will be patched. It's just textures. Geometry is already there it's just skins.

[Grae Knight]

My little Warhammer review after a few days of play.

The game is ALOT easier to jump into than World of Warcraft. From the get go you have alot of quests to do. When you do take a quest a shaded red area shows on your maps so you know where to go to complete said quest. Big improvement over WoW and other fantasy games.

The classes break the common molds of fantasy game classes. Currently I am playing a Marauder Chaos side and a Witch Hunter Order side. Marauder is like a CoH scrapper but you can mutate his left arm to do different things the more you fight.

Public Quests and the Open Party system. These two things rock! PQs are shown on your map as an area where you work with any number of other Players to complete a series of quest that end with defeating a big threat. The more active and contributive you are int he series the higher the chance that you will get a good drop at the end. A bulk of the XP to be gained in the game is through PQs. They are quick and fun. The Open Party system allows you to create a party and leave it open for anyone to join if they are working on the same quests as you. Pretty easy way to find a team.

Scenarios in WAR are alot like Battleground in WoW but better. In WAR you can level a character and gear a character just through PvP alone! When you complete a scenario the game automatically sends you back to where you were in the world. I have yet to venture into a Realm vs Realm zone but I am told it is pretty fun.

The environment in WAR defeatly conveys the feeling that you are involved in a epic battle. Everywhere you go there is destruction and forces battling one another. You don't just have a warrior standing in a grove doing nothing. You have a soldier fighting several other opposing soldiers that you can intervene and assist. Sometimes the NPCs will assist you in your battles.

Overall, so far, I would give it 4 out of 5 stars. There are alot more other things I could tell you about but hate to ruin it for anyone. The game will not draw me from CoH but will keep me from playing WoW ever again.

[Half Life]

I love this game!


Come on out to Ostermark (RP Server) and send Avale a tell. I would love to see more people in this amazing game. im usually a new MMO hater, so take that as it is. This game really is that good.

[Grae Knight]

I play on Azazel server. It is a Core RvR server and I am on with some of the PK. We are the Paragons of Destruction.

[Eomatrix]

Once my comp gets fixed, I'll probably be playing order. Save a place for me in the guild HL.

[Grae Knight]

I love this game!


Come on out to Ostermark (RP Server) and send Avale a tell. I would love to see more people in this amazing game. im usually a new MMO hater, so take that as it is. This game really is that good.


Chaos or Order?

[Tsarmina]

AM really wants to give this game a try... I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
And he'll be Order. The do-gooder Dwarf that he is. :grr:

[The Havoks]

My answer to Warhammer: If they added a 40k on the end of that...I'd be there! :)

Oh hell yeah. If only that had been the case!

[Amoeba Man]

AM really wants to give this game a try... I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
And he'll be Order. The do-gooder Dwarf that he is. :grr:
I'm excited to try this game, but need to upgrade my video card first. If Skaven was a playable race I'd be in game already.

[Grae Knight]

I'm excited to try this game, but need to upgrade my video card first. If Skaven was a playable race I'd be in game already.

From what I hear, there is suppose to be more added down the line.

[Poison]

Can't wait for my copy by now, really eager to give it a try although I have no idea about Warhammer.

[Tsarmina]

I know very little but it sounds like you just smash the hell out of the opposition. Fun. :)

[Half Life]

Chaos or Order?

Order, Come join us. Got a great guild of people. So far its really helped me love this game even more.

[razoras]

Destruction on Phoenix Throne, Avalorn on Order

[Gold Rush]

Also picked up this game. Silly me, been so busy iRL I forgot I had a Beta key. :P Anyway, I am enjoying it as well.

I find it alot like WoW, but I am enjoying it atm more for some reason. Maybe because of the "newness". I do with there were more Orc choices. And I do love Skaven! So far, my favorite seem to be the Tanks, especially Destruction. I like "The Chosen" and "Black Orcs", but everything has been fun, from Squig Herders, to Witch Elves; still have yet to fully try magic casters.

I tend to play of Phoenix Throne, Destruction side. I am trying to focus on my Chosen, but I do also like the Marauder Grae likes. Squig Herding seems to also capture my attention.

Since there are sides per server, I also am building up an Order side, which leads to this...

Order, Come join us. Got a great guild of people. So far its really helped me love this game even more.

Cool, I am on Ostermark under Order, too! Although I was randomly invited to a guild, I can leave it with no qualms. I tend to favor the Warrior Priest (named "Grandizer") so far, but I do like the Witch Hunter, although it IS a bit of finesse. I am so-so on the dwarves, but Engineer is nice. For Elves, I haven't tried them all, but Shadow Warrior seems good (if only there were a "root your enemy" power, so many of the ranged DPS classes work best with a party and not solo :/ ). I am gonna be trying out Swordmaster and White Lion sometime soon).

[Gold Rush]

My impression of the game is this :

IMHO, this game appeals more towards guys. You have a set world and history. WoW, while similar, has more "High Fantasy" elements and a more open world (at least from a player perspective) to write about. I am curious what the "Lich King expansion" will bring to WoW in lieu of Warhammer. As I said earlier, atm, I am enjoying Warhammer.

[Graphite]

Saw it in stores on Sunday and didn't buy it.
Not much interested in "investing" into an MMO atm.
Time and video game burnout I guess.

[Sword]

Yup, having tons of fun. Got my Collectors Edition in the mail yesterday and the thing is HUGE :D

For any Euro Destruction RPers: go Burlok! ;)

[Gold Rush]

For all you folks who got the Collector's Edition, I got a question :

What sorta "exclusive head model" did you get?

Reason I ask is that all my characters seem to get "Exclusive Head Model 3 : Orc/Human/Etc.", so I am wondering if there is a random pool of 1-10 (or however many) heads that are randomly given out or if they had "waves" of this thing and I got the third "wave" (so everyone who recently got into the game has these, until the fourth wave appears).

Any Ideas?

[Half Life]

I think everyone gets the same thing, ive yet to see a head that i didnt have access to.

[Sword]

Yeah, everyone gets the same heads. There's 12 heads, split between 6 races and 2 genders (counting orc and gobbos as different genders). So all orcs will get the same special head, all gobbos will get the same special head, all male dwarfs will get the same special head and so on.

[Gold Rush]

Just wondering why it's labeled "Exclusive Head Model 3 "...

What happened to "Exclusive Head Model 1" and "Exclusive Head Model 2" then?

:huh: :crazy:

[Vendel]

Hummm...I would think about picking this up. But I need a new vid card or a new computer to play it.

Joy!

Then again if it is still going strong in 6 mo they will have worked out a bunch of bugs by then.

[Xielos]

So.....is there a free trial?

:notme:

[Gogo]

I am curious what the "Lich King expansion" will bring to WoW in lieu of Warhammer.

http://www.wotlkwiki.info
-Wikipedia of collected Wrath info

http://www.mmo-champion.com
-News site for WoW

http://www.worldofraids.com
-News site for WoW

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/intro.xml
-WotLK cinematic, and Blizzard's page on the expansion

http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King
-WoWWiki entry on Wrath and all it brings to WoW

Should get you started. :p

Ontopic: haven't been very impressed by what I've seen of Warhammer, and what I've heard from friends who've played. Then again, I'm too busy for another MMO. ;]

[Grae Knight]

WAR > Wow

[Gogo]

Everyone's got their own opinion.
Yours is just wrong. ;]

[Half Life]

Warcraft brings nothing to the table that Warhammer online dosent do better. More classes, better balance, better RvR, Better Quests, better community, better graphics, less idiots, things to do at all levels, Public Quests, racing to end game not required or even encouraged, ( i could literally keep going for quite a while listing things that are better in warhammer). With warhammer out i really dont know why anybody would want to keep playing warcraft besides old habits die hard.

But to each his own.

[Sir Serpa]

Everyone's got their own opinion.
Yours is just wrong. ;]

Probably the truest thing I've ever heard was: "WoW really brought nothing innovative to the world of MMOs. It just brought them into the mainstream and made them available to everyone."

[Gogo]

Warcraft brings nothing to the table that Warhammer online dosent do better. More classes, better balance, better RvR, Better Quests, better community, better graphics, less idiots, things to do at all levels, Public Quests, racing to end game not required or even encouraged, ( i could literally keep going for quite a while listing things that are better in warhammer). With warhammer out i really dont know why anybody would want to keep playing warcraft besides old habits die hard.

But to each his own.

Again, this is your opinion (which is correct, because you're not Grae :lol:). I don't agree with any of that. I don't like the lore behind Warhammer, I have no interest in starting a new MMO, I have dedicated 2 years of my life to WoW and want to continue playing. You may "really not know" why anyone would keep playing WoW, but outside of this community, there are 10 million people who keep playing it, and keep liking it. In all honesty, I don't really expect most of the Gurus to either enjoy WoW or understand why others do. :)

And Serpa, CoH was my first real MMO, not WoW. ;]
It might be mainstream, but the numbers pretty much speak for themselves.

I'll totally be the first to admit that it's got lots of faults, but the things it does well it does really, really well. A lot of the stuff I enjoy about the game can't be accessed just by logging in, and I don't think most of you have really experienced a lot of the content I have. Not trying to give offense or anything, but I've never heard about any of you raiding or anything. 'Course, I could be wrong! But I'm going on what I've read and seen about WoW on these boards. ^^

ANYWAY
It's not important, back to Warhammer :)

[Sir Serpa]

And Serpa, CoH was my first real MMO, not WoW. ;]
It might be mainstream, but the numbers pretty much speak for themselves.

You can't really compare CoX to WoW as far as "numbers" go. Blizzard is an established name with which most gamers have had experience with through Diablo, Warcraft, and/or Starcraft. NCSoft...? Not so much. They really have nothing except Lineage which is primarily marketed toward Korean grinders. So comparing an established franchise to a completely new and original series just quite doesn't speak well of whomever is making the argument... That's like saying "Wal-Mart produce is better than Tom's Corner Produce because Wal-Mart has more people enter the store and buy oranges."

And what exactly DOES WoW do well...? The majority of my gamer friends have been playing WoW since release and yet nothing in their discussions ever makes me desire to play for more than a trial period... The combat is jerky and the transitions between the animations aren't smooth whatsoever. Most don't even pay attention to the Lore, and the UI is boring, generic, and cluttered.

Give a CoXer a WoW Trial...? He'll play for a week. Give a WoWer a CoX Buddy code...? He'll subscribe.

[Gogo]

Uh, ok. Two of my WoW friends picked up CoX, powered themselves to 50 in a month, and quit almost instantly after because there was nothing to do once they'd hit max level. :/ They thought the TFs were cool and some of the missions were awesome too, but they got bored very quickly.

Anyway, my point is--not trying to make anyone like it, your attacks on it aren't going to make me like it any less. ;]

As for what it does well: the raid game, the characters, the lore, the intense amount of theorycrafting behind every spell and talent, acquiring shinies, really seeing a progression in your character from a lowly level 1 in a tank top and sweats (figuratively) to a real force to be reckoned with. The boss encounters are pretty awesome too. Like I said, multiple times--this is what I and I alone think. I like the game. Not trying to make anyone like it. Only posted the links 'cause Gold Rush asked.

Now can we please get back to Warhammer? :p

edit: as for boring generic UIs--check this thread out
http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t23417-share_your_interface_-_read_first_post_no_really_read/
You can customize ANYTHING in a WoW UI.

[Pinny]

Well...I've raided Karazhan and Gruul's Lair, does that count?


Sure, it's fun to be in a huge group fighting huge enemies, but you'll want to make sure you KNOW those people.

T4 shoulders and pants dropped, I needed them the most, yet did I get them? Nope, some stupid paladin (or whoever else shares rogue T4 items, I forget) got them for his off-set..WTF


I did get the T4 helm my first Karazhan run though :D

[Gogo]

omg guiz no moar wow talk in teh WAR thred D:

Pinny--if you didn't get main set T4 over someone's off-set T4, whoever you're raiding with is a jackass. With PUGs you're basically playing roulette.

And if you raided Kara and Gruul and enjoyed it then of course it counts. :) I liked those instances when I did them, and I enjoyed pretty much all the content I was able to experience (everything except the last two bosses of Sunwell, hardest raid in the game).

[Tsarmina]

So.....is there a free trial?

:notme:

Or friend code? :P Though with the record numbers I kinda doubt they'd do it yet.

[Plasma Wisp]

You can customize ANYTHING in a WoW UI.

Using outside resources.

my mind boggles on why my friends play on closed servers and get leet "I can take down a 50 man raid boss on my own".

It's like celebrating that you beat the dog in chess.

WAR > Gogo's bias opinions.

[Grae Knight]

Some are dedicated to WoW because of what Gogo said, they have invested years of their life to getting the best gear and are hard to pull away from that. I imagine it is the same with EQ. I admit, it is very hard for me to consider quitting CoH because of how much of my time I have devoted to it. WAR is just a better product. Give it time and word will get out. Already the servers are filling up just from their limited advertising.

[Akamaz]

after i fget my new compy with my tax returns i'm planning on checking this bad boy out.

[Gold Rush]

So.....is there a free trial?

Or friend code? :P Though with the record numbers I kinda doubt they'd do it yet.

Not that I am seeing, and I have the Collector's Edition! I don't even see an online offer.

I think, sorta as with "Age of Conan", you gotta "give it time". AoC took awhile to activate those codes. Warhammer, while not having codes, may provide them in the future, but exactly WHEN, I cannot say. I am thinking, if one is very optimistic, 4 months. Semi-optimistic, then 6 months. Realistically, about a year... At this point, it is just trying to "read" Mythic/EA and figuring what they will do. It is quite possible when the next MMO goes live (big or small), they will start offering trial keys.




Thanks for the links/info, Gogo.

[Kurai Inago]

All of the WoW Vs. War stuff aside, what server is everyone on? Just picked up the game today and I'm wondering where to put my Characters

[Half Life]

Not sure about everyone else, But im on the RP server Ostermark playing Order. Got a very good guild of people going, but i am the only one from the forums playing there. Everyone kind of started their own thing.

[Poison]

Only until I get my copy, HL! Hopefully soon!

[Grae Knight]

I play on Averheim. Avoiding RP servers like the plague. Loving the RvR.

[Half Life]

I rvr all the time, so not sure where that comment is coming from. But we dont see very many people with insanely stupid names running around, so thats a good thing.

[Grae Knight]

I rvr all the time, so not sure where that comment is coming from. But we dont see very many people with insanely stupid names running around, so thats a good thing.


The big long statement about the RP server that I had to agree to before I created a character turned me off. Also, seeing how I know nothing about WAR lore I didn't want to get into that.

[Gold Rush]

The big long statement about the RP server that I had to agree to before I created a character turned me off. Also, seeing how I know nothing about WAR lore I didn't want to get into that.

Just do what 90% of the players do; don't read it and scroll to the very end! :P

Actually, probably being one of probably 5 people that picked up the "old" Warhammer Fantasy Hardback RPG (PnP), I know a few scant things. If you play(ed) the tabletop Miniatures army game, you probably know enough.

Point is, you are not alone, just like Blizzard's baby when it came out, not many knew the world. While I haven't RPed too much (too busy RvRing, questing,exploring), what I have done isn't too world-specific. I think many players are figuring out what is what in the WAR online world.

Just have fun, no matter where you go. :)

[Gold Rush]

As for me :
Ostermark (RP) - Order
Phoenix Throne (RP) - Destruction

Badlands (Core) - Order (?)
Skull Throne (Core) - Destruction (?)

Those last two, I don't play very much. Right now, trying to focus and level certain characters.

[Cloud Runner]

Me and my brother play witchhunters on Ostermark and I also have a White Lion I play solo there as well.

Cletus-Me
Dimitri-My brother
Tribunus- me again

Hit us up, it gets kinda lonely as noone really stops to talk or anything in this game. A good full guild would be awesome.

[The Havoks]

If you want a good guild, forsake your lame witch hunters and roll destro on Dark Crag: Where the real action happens. We're in a huge guild too that is awesome.

Order sucks!

[Cloud Runner]

Right...

[Grae Knight]

Pretty good article that gives alot of hope to the staying power of WAR (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26999587/)

I play

Azazel (Core) - Destruction, Horis level 19 Marauder (Paragon of Destruction)
Averhem (Core) - Order, Hene level 14 Warrior Priest (War Dogs)

[Grae Knight]

Warguru.com is live. Register over there for good info and discussion about the game.

[Dr Jack Wolfe]

Really, I mean really....I have a 3 month pass in the game, but haven't enjoyed it enough to get past level 10 with most classes. It get good huh? Maybe I need a more populated server.

[Grae Knight]

Really, I mean really....I have a 3 month pass in the game, but haven't enjoyed it enough to get past level 10 with most classes. It get good huh? Maybe I need a more populated server.

Server population does make a difference. Moreso is server balance. It makes RvR awesome.

[Half Life]

If you want a good guild, forsake your lame witch hunters and roll destro on Dark Crag: Where the real action happens. We're in a huge guild too that is awesome.

Order sucks!

Bleh, everyone and their 12 year old brother plays destruction....and they brought their lack of skill with them. Which i guess is why destruction has about a 15% win ratio against order on my server. Its so bad that we've caused many of the larger destruction guilds to run to easier pastures. May they enjoy themselves, i'll stay on the side of Order.

"You have been judged and your sentence is death by execution. May you be absolved of all your transgressions" - Violence "Witch Hunter"

[Grae Knight]

Destruction on Averheim was the first group to take a Capital City Sunday. Granted they did it at 4am but they still did it.

[Grae Knight]

How is everyone doing on WAR? I hit 20 with my warrior priest and purchased my warhorse for 15 gold pieces. I was gonna buy a last name as well but it was 4 gold pieces. Just not worth it right now. I don't have a pic of the horse but this is Hene.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/twr0525/WAR/Hene_18.jpg

[razoras]

White Lion hit level 22, bye bye Phoenix Gate! Lion is big now.

http://www.westonwedding.com/images/kimpeksmalladult.png

That's Tier 2.

This... is Tier 3.

http://www.westonwedding.com/images/kimpekhuge.png

[bpphantom]

So uhm... they release buddy keys or trials for WAR yet?

[Grae Knight]

So uhm... they release buddy keys or trials for WAR yet?

Not yet. They have begun to offer server transfers so they can balance out the populations. Population balance is key this game to make Open RvR fun. I am really enjoying this game. The first month of free membership has run out so alot of the shortbus WoW kiddies have left the game. The collective of intelligence of the game is noticably higher.

[bpphantom]

Hrm. I may just buckle and snag it somewhere for the free month. Pretty sure I've still got a couple of weeks at least before I13 drops.

[Sword]

Just reached lvl30 and buoght a 6 month subscription to this. Having loads of fun playing it. For anyone playing I'd reccomend looking for a decent guild to join, as it's important to have people to watch your back in RvR and to group up with for the bigger PvE stuff. WARs quests are allmost all soloable, but you really need other players to really get everything out of the game.

Edit: Oh yeah, and if you're an EU RPer playing Destruction, apply to The Black Banner (http://theblackbanner.guildlaunch.com) on Burlok! ;)

[Grae Knight]

Just reached lvl30 and buoght a 6 month subscription to this. Having loads of fun playing it. For anyone playing I'd reccomend looking for a decent guild to join, as it's important to have people to watch your back in RvR and to group up with for the bigger PvE stuff. WARs quests are allmost all soloable, but you really need other players to really get everything out of the game.

Edit: Oh yeah, and if you're an EU RPer playing Destruction, apply to The Black Banner (http://theblackbanner.guildlaunch.com) on Burlok! ;)

Have to agree with what Sword says here. The game is absolutely amazing and all about playing along with others.

I have been enthralled in this game since it went live. I could not endorse it enough. Even if you hate PvP in CoH you will love it in WAR. It is PvP with a purpose. You can advance your character through it. You can get great gear through it. Everything you do in PvP and PvE effects the game.

If you are interested in playing and need a good group to run with look me up on the Averheim server. My main right now is Hene. We have a active guild and a growing alliance. This past weekend we had a 2 hour Keep defense that was easily 150 vs 150. It was ****ing insane!

[Gold Rush]

So the Heavy Metal (http://herald.warhammeronline.com/liveevents/2008HeavyMetal.php) event is going on, although it is a concern that it started a day late. From a few sources, it seems if you keep up the daily schedule, one should be well to meeting the requirements before (or sometime during) Thanksgiving (and afterwards). A few of these things seem to be open ended, at least enough to get a trophy and a cloak of your choice. So Holidays should not interfere too much with that.

Although, now the servers are down for about 4 hours. What other delays may pop up? It is also a bit hard to get into the special scenario, especially at a low Tier (1). I've been looking forward to this as a way to catch up on Renown Points to equal my Rank/Level more, but it seems damn hard, even in the wee hours of the morning.

[Grae Knight]

So the Heavy Metal (http://herald.warhammeronline.com/liveevents/2008HeavyMetal.php) event is going on, although it is a concern that it started a day late. From a few sources, it seems if you keep up the daily schedule, one should be well to meeting the requirements before (or sometime during) Thanksgiving (and afterwards). A few of these things seem to be open ended, at least enough to get a trophy and a cloak of your choice. So Holidays should not interfere too much with that.

Although, now the servers are down for about 4 hours. What other delays may pop up? It is also a bit hard to get into the special scenario, especially at a low Tier (1). I've been looking forward to this as a way to catch up on Renown Points to equal my Rank/Level more, but it seems damn hard, even in the wee hours of the morning.

Which server do you play on? Population balance plays a big part in the rate that scenarios pop. On Averheim Reikland Factory in T3 pops about once every 10 mins.

[bpphantom]

From the sounds of things -the way server pop plays such a huge role in the core essence of the game - I predict a server consolidation after the 6m-1y period is over. if you happen to be on a low pop server it sounds like you're largely screwed.

[Grae Knight]

More so server balance than population. If both sides have the same numbers than it should be ok. They are already offering bonuses to people wanting to move from a low population server to a higher one. I was lucky and the one I chose ended up being a high population server with pretty hardcore players.

[Half Life]

Living in germany i have a problem with finding people to group with during my normal play hours. With a game thats so heavily focused on grouping and group based content, it really sucks when youre forced to solo.

[Vendel]

So the Heavy Metal (http://herald.warhammeronline.com/liveevents/2008HeavyMetal.php) event is going on,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1RFir5Syks

[Gold Rush]

Which server do you play on? Population balance plays a big part in the rate that scenarios pop. On Averheim Reikland Factory in T3 pops about once every 10 mins.

Ostermark (with Phoenix Throne) mostly. Yes, I still have altitis, but I did level up well with my "main" on Ostermark into Level 20. ("Yay! A Horse! My Kingdom has a Horse!) I have noticed it seems to be dependent on the number of players that request Reikland; there seems to be a weird misconception of "Do it once and I am done with it" on the part of many players on my server. I notice the lower levels (tiers) pop up less very late at night; like no one is using them as opposed to higher tiers, like T2 and above. I also see some chat nonsense that the Steam plant is not the most important objective to hold onto one time (which it is!). Not sure how wide this misconception is spread.

So, I think the majority of players have leveled up, judging from my experiences. Both servers are fairly High Pop.

They are already offering bonuses to people wanting to move from a low population server to a higher one. I was lucky and the one I chose ended up being a high population server with pretty hardcore players.

I was lucky Ostermark gave this bonus as well, with Order benefitting from the XP. I still have an item or two (or three) I can use to increase my XP gain, but I am trying to keep my Renown at roughly the same level as my XP. My experience with the "server newbs" in starting lands is less than ideal, but I give such servers a try from time to time. I did put a char on Averheim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1RFir5Syks

I think you know that the people behind the tabletop Warhammer are such Metal Heads. :D This event was named for thier magazine section painting miniatures, but the number of Hard Rockin' Warhammer vids, especially 40k, is indicitative. :)

Living in germany i have a problem with finding people to group with during my normal play hours. With a game thats so heavily focused on grouping and group based content, it really sucks when youre forced to solo.

This is true. They just recently "gave" an easier way to get Heavy Metal done, so I don't have to worry so much about playing most of my chars just to get a cape! (Although I am wondering how many players now will get access to the week-head start....) Finding peeps late at night IS hard, but in a weird turn, although finding a Reikland Scenario is hard, one can find the common T1 scenarios (Nordenwatch, et al)! The higher your level (late at night states' side), the less likely it seems to find a scenario (although I don't have info on T4 scenarios).

This is when having alts comes in for me. I enjoy Nordenwatch and a few of the lower level Scenarios. I keep wondering, whenever I find I am up very late, if I should create an alt on an Oceanic Server...

[Grae Knight]

Since they consolidated some servers I am now on Badlands. The population is incredible and the RvR is epic! :)

[Gold Rush]

Since they consolidated some servers I am now on Badlands. The population is incredible and the RvR is epic! :)

Did all your Guild make the move, Grae?


I've been seeing lots of vast Guild moves from servers. Avelorn has such a transfer and it has been benefitting Ostermark and Phoenix Throne. Lots of new Guilds; lots of fresh blood.

I do have some alts on Badlands, as well, although mostly classes I have yet to really try and all Destro, I am fairly certain. (No, neophytes of WAR, Destro does NOT mean Cobra Commander's "trusted" Arms Merchant. :P ).

[Grae Knight]

Yes, our entire alliance moved. We changed our name to Dogs of War.

[TheImperial]

Yes, our entire alliance moved. We changed our name to Dogs of War.

Nice nod to the tabletop game. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_of_War_(Warhammer))

[Gold Rush]

Well, I am having fun playing the new classes, even if you see HORDES of the same class in the starting areas. :P

I have played Knight of the Burning Sand a bit more than Blackguard (mainly because I've been busy iRL atm). I can't say I totally agree with the reviewer over at Massive Gamer about Black guards (http://www.massivegamer.com/gamelist.php?game=208&section=features&view=42) and KotBS (http://www.massivegamer.com/gamelist.php?game=208&section=features&view=50). Personally, I am finding the Knights to be easier and powerful early on; in Scenarios match-ups, my experience has been Team of KotBS > Team of BlackGuards, at least for Tier 1. I just started on a Black Guard, and while they are fun and neat, there is something that bothers me about them atm. Maybe it's because I like Chosen and KotBS plays alot like Chosen, while Black Guards play alot like Iron Breakers, a class I have yet to try out. The juggling of the Hate/Grudge mechanic makes it interesting, but hard to launch quick attacks (I can't heal myself fast enough with that one Hate power, "Judgement", I think. It heals you more the more you let your Hate gauge grow. I get beat down before I can press it, but I do try for 75% heals :p ).

I am gonna build up my BlackGuard some more (at least til next Tier), but KotBS seems to be very good currently. Even the male "Cod Piece" doesn't really bother me as it has some other players.

[Grae Knight]

Maw Defense (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q04VDCNP9CQ)

[Akamaz]

ok, i picked up the 10 day trial today, any suggestions for a good server?

[The Icy One]

I went on Pheonix Throne because that where a couple others said to go.. but I just bought the full game today as well. Only 30$ now, so not to bad considering I just traded in my broke PSP which covered it and some used games. Oh, and the side is Destruction.

[Akamaz]

damn, trial accounts are restricted to two servers.

[The Icy One]

Mine wasn't, but someone invited me.

[Grae Knight]

Badlands rocks! The population is high on both sides and both sides push to the Captial Cities almost every week.

[Akamaz]

yeah, its limited me to magus and one other one.. (no invite for me :()

[Gold Rush]

yeah, its limited me to magus and one other one.. (no invite for me :()

I think some folks said Magus "rocked", but no Gurus I know. Just pick High Pop servers. Cores are good choices, but the RP ones that I (and others) are on are not bad. Phoenix Throne is good. Lots of Destruction but a good balance of Order to go against. Lots of Guru Destros on Phoenix Throne.

Ostermark ain't bad either (for RP).

I am on a bit of sabbatical from Warhammer for a bit. Just kinda got tired of chasing after Event badges (and the other badges), at least for a while. :)

[Grae Knight]

yeah, its limited me to magus and one other one.. (no invite for me :()


Well that sucks. The game does not really blossom until Tier 4 which is where all the serious campaign RvR goes on. Tier 3 is great as well since most people spend alot of time there. There is supposed to be a free expansion coming out soon that should add a new zone in Tier 4. I think it is called Tomb of Kings.

[bpphantom]

For those on the 10 day trial: After the trial if you sub then you get a free transfer to any server. Just an FYI.

Otherwise I've got a couple of referrals.

[Akamaz]

yeah, as it is right ow, if i wanna sub to this i gotta get a second job, which will eat up all my play time. so for the moment at least i'll have to be happy with my 10 day trial... I wish they had a lifetime sub option, cause i could see dropping 200.00 on a lifetime sub easily, but 15.00 a month recurring is a problem

[Masked Revenger]

There's a 10 day free trial? I may just have to check this out.

Although, I'm in the same boat as Maz right now in regards to paying for a new game. I can afford exactly one MMO right now, and for now I'm sticking with CoH.

But, I have been feeling the fantasy bug bitting agian, so I'll give a 10 day trial a go.

:mr: Chris

[Gold Rush]

Okay, I know some of you still play WAR Online and I still do sorta like it, but when I had characters on Phoenix Throne and Ostermark and they merged Ostermark (after the previous month or two, MERGING other RP servers INTO Ostermark... :rolleyes: )... Well, it just kinda killed it for me.

I've been thinking many reasons why this game really hasn't taken off or shown strong enough numbers. While I *think* I have it figured out, this article from Massively (http://www.massively.com/2009/07/01/what-audiences-should-mythic-have-targeted-with-warhammer-online/) does point to some "telling" things, imo.

Also, in the comments section, although I have only read the first page of them, I also think comment #10 by mysecretid has some good merit.

[bpphantom]

What did it for me is that once you hit T4 and are chickened in T3, there's really nothing going on in T4 that you can get into until you hit 40 and get geared. You can PvE, which I enjoyed, but it was mostly solo. *shrug* That's what did it for me anyway.

[Sword]

Honestly, I think one of the biggest problems of WAR was simply how they handled server population at launch. The set very low pop caps for servers and then started up a LOT of servers over a short period of time. Then started raising the pop caps as players moved out of the newbie zones.

What this resulted in was a few servers with a high population becuas a bunch of communities had decided on a few specific servers and got on them, pop caps and queues be damned, and a bunch of servers with medium or low pops that then sunk lower and lower once launch rush and free included month expiered.

Part of what made them have so damn many servers was that over halfway through development they revealed to the community that that the game was designed so you could run into your enemies in PvE areas where you couldn't attack eachother. And apparently they were surprised when it turned out a lot of people were really unhappy with that (I was sort of exhasperated that they hadn't realized this and just designed the zones with natural borders that hindered unflagged players from wandering into enemy PvE areas). So to try to fix this, they made up a new ruleset called Open RvR.
And then you had Roleplayers, like me, who wanted a Roleplaying server, but now had to choose between RP RvR and RP RvR Open. Splitting the allready smallish RP-community over a number of servers.
I dunno if there's any RvR Open servers still running? I allways thought they were a stupid idea, since they tried to fix a problem that was part of the fundamental design of WAR.

[Akamaz]

so did anyone else get reactivtion emails to let ou know that trial accounts are now set as unlimited?

[Seadevil]

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself.

[razoras]

Ah, unlimited as in no time limit. Just look on the website: http://www.warhammeronline.com/trial/

The trial accounts themselves are pretty heavily restricted.

[Akamaz]

wow, and by looking at the trial restrictions they are a LOT more restrictive than the 10 day trials were... (10 day trials were 10 days limited to tier 2 i think, with no race restrictions. the "unlimited trial" is limited to tier 1 chaos vs empire only

[Gold Rush]

I heard about these, but had not looked into the details.

Well, I guess it's a fairly good way to fill up the "ghost towns" that are currently Tier 1, but it does smack of desperation...

...and the possibility of eventually going to a f2p model by the end of next year or sooner. I can't imagine their recent in-game events are as well attended as last year's numbers. IMV, they are in an even worse position than AoC, even though I favor Warhammer's game over AoC.

[bpphantom]

I hate seeing this because I LIKED Warhammer. I really did. I bought it and played for a few (6ish) months BECAUSE of their PvP system. Great rewards, fun, no personal risk. w00t.

Oh well. I should do what ever I need to to get my old account set for the Endless Trial. I've never played anything from the Empire so it might be a good chance.

[Grae Knight]

I loved WAR as well. Played for about 6 months and loved it. Just ran out of stuff to do aside for RvR once I level capped. Plus there were some balance issues they were having a rough time with.

[bpphantom]

I loved WAR as well. Played for about 6 months and loved it. Just ran out of stuff to do aside for RvR once I level capped. Plus there were some balance issues they were having a rough time with.

The RVR is why I joined :)

[FrostyPox]

I loved Warhammer, too, but Mythic was so freakin' slow when it came to fixing balance and performance issues, and in cases where they weren't slow, they were clueless ("We're pretty happy with Blackguard vs. Ironbreaker". L. O. FUCKING. L.) It sounds like they've finally got things on track, but holy crap it's taken them long enough. And all that time wasted on Land of the Dead should absolutely have been spent fixing the game's problems. Really, ideally, the game should've seen marked performance improvements and better class balance in the first couple months, and THEN they should've worked on adding new content.

I want to see what they have in mind for the next couple of patches before reaching a decision wether or not to play again. Really, I'm just insanely bitter because I freaking love the tabletop game, and it would make a really, really good MMO, but Mythic seriously dropped the ball on this one.

[Dynamo-Man]

I just had my trial account made Eternal, so I played some today. Honestly, I can't even remember my character's name or his server. He's a black orc choppa, I think.

It's a fun game, and a decent substitute for WoW. But I still like WoW better, and will probably be taking a hiatus from CoX soon for it.

[Tors-k]

WARCRAFT by itself is good..... Well.... My opinion...

Warhammer is good, but I like the 40k series more.... IF youre going to go into WoW, try using a private server instead... Least, thats what I heard is good >.>

[Gold Rush]

Two more servers lose their identity! (http://www.massively.com/2009/11/24/warhammer-online-merges-two-more-servers/)

Warhammer Online merges two more servers

by Eliot Lefebvre Nov 24th 2009 at 8:00PM

It wasn't entirely unexpected -- after all, Jeff Skalski gave some indications this might be coming in our recent interview with him -- but it's still unbalancing. Warhammer Online community manager Andy Belford confirmed today that two of the game's servers, Dark Crag and Phoenix Throne, will be shutting down. The population of these servers will be allowed a free transfer to two other servers each -- Iron Rock or Badlands for Dark Crag, Gorfang or Volkmar for Phoenix Throne. He also mentions that there will be a 20% bonus to experience and renown in the weeks following the transfer, to at least slightly take the sting off the event.

It looks as if there will be slightly more servers in the European region, as they have a total of 13 still open... but several of those are due to the different languages, and at least one of the realms is scheduled for shutdown. As for what this means for the game itself... it's hard to call it anything but bad news, even with the promises of a boost incoming to ease the impact. We know that Warhammer Online's future looks a bit shaky after recent events, but this is more dire than any of us had expected or hoped. We'll keep up on any news as it becomes available.

So that's it. At least from my end. Ostermark was a good RP server that others were merged into. It was then that a month or so passed and it too was merged into Phoenix Throne, totally destroying not only groilds, but my own characters (I already had characters on Phoenix Throne that were pro-chaos). So, that left my Order characters to go to a non-RP server.

And now, apparently, Phoenix Throne has been given the axe. If memory serves, I think neither Volkmar or Gorfang are RP servers.

In the end analysis, it may not be a "big" thing for some players, who do not care, but not only does it affect a small populace (like myself), but it just points out to a larger problem : Warhammer is not living up to it's potential as envisioned by its Corporate Masters.

Who knows, maybe the game will become even more "f2p" than it already is at the moment? Or maybe in a year or two, it will fade into obscurity and then the plug will be pulled? We shall see. Either way, I am still, "Meh" towards it, having liked it alot, but now not really wanting to give this game another chance. :p

[razoras]

PT, despite being an RP server, was also one of the most populated servers at release. It is very surprising to hear that it's getting shut down.

[Lorash]

I've been calling for PT to get the axe for months, since when I played there there were times when I was the only person in Tier 3 for Order for hours on end. I went to Volkmar and have been having a good time there and now I'll be able to move my characters off with a clear conscience.

I liked the RP restrictions on naming, but that was really the only difference.

[Gold Rush]

I've been calling for PT to get the axe for months, since when I played there there were times when I was the only person in Tier 3 for Order for hours on end. I went to Volkmar and have been having a good time there and now I'll be able to move my characters off with a clear conscience.

I liked the RP restrictions on naming, but that was really the only difference.

Well, at this point, I agree. I've been on some of those "Ghost town" servers and while it is tempting to put yourself on a Leaderboard, it doesn't get fun after awhile.

IMO, I think the people who will be "driven away" by this already are for the most part; no one's sticking around, especially RP-types. It is now a game with basic servers.

Are there any RP servers left or are they all PvP/RvR types now?

[bpphantom]

Since I can't get my old account to behave as one of these alleged T1 forever accounts I'm not even going to move my PT toons.