GoodBye

[Tarkenchi]

First off, You may not close this thread, for I am not violating any rules of the boards.

I am leaving CoHGuru, I am tired of the Drama, and If I leave, I can't be sucked back into more, I've been with you guys for 1 year and 3 months now, and Im sorry to say I have to leave, lately it's just been to much of a burden with all of the stuff flying around. I wish you all happiness and I hope some day everything mends itself.

Kthxbai. :tarkenchi

Also, Nobody say anything, about anyone, I don't want this to be closed. Again.

[Blackbat]

I'm sorry to see you go Tark. You know I'll still chat with you on AIM so this isn't really a goodbye. I do hope you move on to something that will be as good or better than this place has been to you over the past 1+ year. :)

[Tsarmina]

*hugs her lil bro Tarkey*

[Fantasmo]

Sorry to see you go Tark.
Take care buddy.

[TroubleWolf]

If I get a vote, I say don't leave.

Either way, keep in touch, y'hear?

[Jade_Dragon]

I think it says something that your last post got closed over the same thing that you're leaving about. And it had nothing to do with your post any more than it does with this one. Sorry you got "sucked into" one last one, as you said.

I'm sorry to see you go, and I'll keep an eye out for you in game.

[Bari Jon]

Tark,

We will all miss you... Sorry that you have to go, but you will find green pastures to run through while flying your plane! Talk to you in AIM!

[Necrosys]

:( Sorry to see you go, Tarky. I wish I'd had more chances to chat with you and whatnot. :kiss:

[Istasi]

See ya around Tarky. It'll be tough being the only young'n, but I think I can manage.

[D'Arkaine]

Geez man. I'm sorry to hear that. You have my AIM right?

This place ain't gonna be the same without you. It'll be...less.

[MikeKAY]

:cry:

I guess if trying to talk you out of it is out of the question then I'll just say "C'ya around." Don't really want to say goodbye. I'll try to keep in touch. :cry:

[The Widowed]

So now who am I going to hassle about his kung fu not being strong? :(

[Kinetix]

*hugs her lil bro Tarkey*

Tark's my lil bro!

Cya man, still talk to you on aim all the time.

[the_starcrosser]

:cry: /hug_noogie_rumple

well... we'll all be around if you want us, and i'll try to be on AIM more... ;) Never forget that we love you a lot! You are the only Tarkenchi we have. ^_^

[Mana Child]

Hey Tark I know im a lurker on theese boards,But don't take anythiing anyone writes in here seriuosly.I know your a young kid but keep strong .

[suburbanhell]

Sorry to see you go Tark. Hopefully in time you will return.

[iggy880]

Bye Tarky, the youngest member of our boards. I will mi the ability to annoy you with Tiny Tarky, and having you around.


(seriously, good bye Tark, and come back soon)

[sheld0n]

We love you, Tark. Sad to see ya go :(
You know, you can just ignore all the negative posts...

Ah, well, all the more reason to buy Battlefield 2 i guess (so we can stay in touch).

[ThunderMace]

Wish you wouldn't go, bud :(

[Cold Quake]

Farewell. :|

[Alumette]

I'm going to take a cue from our young friend here and also wish you all farewell. I'm doing so in Tarky's thread because I didn't want to clutter up the boards with a whole separate thread.

I am pleased to say that Poison's long, insightful post in the "I love drama" thread is something I've been waiting for for a long time. I only wish we could have seen something like that earlier, rather than the snide, underhanded comments we'd seen in the past. Had something like that been made available to us before, my perspective might have been different on some things. With regard to the root situation of this whole mess, I know very little of the story and frankly don't care to know more. But to have that side of it rationally and maturely explained, as Poison did, gave me a better perspective and honestly after that I can say I respect both sides and their feelings. So thank you, Poison.

So why am I leaving? This being a public forum, we enjoy all the same benefits of any public entity: communication, sharing of resources, friendship, what have you. And we also endure some of the negatives as a cost of that benefit: conflicts, having to deal with people with whom we perhaps disagree, grating personalities, etc. Fine. That's how it works. As a member of a community you realize it's not only all about you and you learn to ignore or avoid those things that affect you negatively. No one is forcing you to interact with certain individuals or forcing you to read certain threads.

This worked for me until recently. Maybe I'm a naive sap (I can hear you all nodding from here), but honestly, conflict hurts me on a very deep level. At the risk of being laughed at I will say that our recent conflicts have had me almost in tears. I don't mind conflict for growth's sake: that's a necessity of life. But when people can't get past it and are more interested in winning than in growing, it drains me. So it's becoming harder and harder for me to tune out, which is why I can't be around here anymore.

We have an opportunity here to learn from eachother and use this experience to make our community stronger. Growth from conflict *is* what strengthens communities! Bickering only creates a downward spiral and weakens communities. Poison's insightful recent post, along with the fine caliber of people I know are here, gives me hope that eventually we can work together to get past this. Not sweep it under the rug and ignore it; nor drag it all out for the world to see, but do the *work* of resolving conflict: understanding one another's emotions, putting the community before our own egos, and sitting on the same table facing the problem together rather than on opposite sides of the table staring one another down. This is what has to happen before we can be whole again.

In my lovey-dovey posts that seem to amuse people so, I guess I was trying to get us all on the same side of the table, and I guess people either didn't get it or didn't care, or some combination of the two. I wasn't exactly clear, just touchy-feely, and for that I apologize. So until we get on the same side of the table, knowing all this malaise is bubbling under the surface is too emotionally exhausting for me. I completely understand Poison's position now because of it; and that's why I need to get out of here and take a break for a bit.

To cut through the touchy-feely crap, I'm just going to throw this out there. Do with it what you will. Hopefully you will eventually make it to the same side of the table to face it down like the strong community I know you are:

Some time ago, someone did something that hurt many people. They felt betrayed. Betrayal is probably one of the most difficult wounds to heal. The person committing this action may or may not have intended to betray. Only those directly involved know for sure. But nothing can be done about what has happened. What we *can* do something about is what *will* happen. The fact that people were betrayed is no longer the problem. The problem is, these feelings of betrayal, however they came about, is causing a rift in our community and is tainting the positive, supportive atmosphere we once had; to an extent that at this point it is becoming difficult to ignore. So the question is, how do we get rid of the rift caused by those feelings? *That* is our problem. Not who did what to whom or when or how. Our issue is no longer with a person or persons, it is with a situation, and like it or not, the situation is now affecting us all, as evidenced by all the crazy posting that's been going on.

How do we get rid of the rift? Or better yet, how do we bridge the rift so as to come out of this mess stronger? It is clear to me that this is a question that cannot be ignored. We cannot afford to pretend it didn't happen. Not even those of us who are unaware of the situation and/or not affected by it. This has to be addressed and worked out somehow. Please work it out. And Remember What's Important. I guarantee you it's something bigger than you.

I will still maintain my responsibility to any RP threads I'm currently in, and I will keep an eye on the Dawn Patrol forum, but that's it. Consider me absent for an indefinite period of time. I welcome anyone who wishes to to contact me on AIM (AlumetteCOH) and/or email (alumettecoh@gmail.com) to do so; and of course in game once I get my motherboard fixed.

Peace to you and happy trails,

[Kinetix]

Bye Tarky, the youngest member of our boards.


(seriously, good bye Tark, and come back soon)

Istasi is younger :-Þ

[Noble]

As seems apparent from the closing of the last thread concerning past wounds being reopened because they were never healed, I am leaving too.

Ignoring our problems as a community and simply setting them off to side is just a powerder keg waiting to be ignited again some time in the future.

I'm bowing out as well, save for the RP's I am involved in on these boards.

Goodbye PCity.

[8 Ball]

As seems apparent from the closing of the last thread concerning past wounds being reopened because they were never healed, I am leaving too.

Ignoring our problems as a community and simply setting them off to side is just a powerder keg waiting to be ignited again some time in the future.

I'm bowing out as well, save for the RP's I am involved in on these boards.

Goodbye PCity.

Noble, if it's that much of an issue I'll re-open it, this ultra-drama is just starting to really P*ss me off.

[IamLink]

No ****ing ****...this is getting way out of hand. :mad:

[Griimace]

So....at this rate, how soon until most of the board migrates back to PCity?

[Seadevil]

... Are you guys serious?

Good lord, I have never seen a group of people over react and be this dramatic like this in a long time. If you have a problem with someone on these boards, don't respond to their posts. Add them to your ignore list. If you gotta bitch, take it to PMs. There are SO MANY other ways to go about addressing an issue, even one that's 'tearing the community apart' (which I seriously fail to see happening) other than "Well, so-and-so doesn't like my friend, so i'm leaving bye!" ****. People don't get along. Get over it.

Also, to say that 'the community is ignoring it's problems' AND THEN LEAVE THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT TRYING TO FIX A DAMN THING IN THE FIRST PLACE is so insanely hypocritical it's mind-boggling.

[IamLink]

I vote we all quit CoH and go back to the pre-beta days...where the complaining was about how the game wasn't here yet. Man, b/s like this is making me miss those days alot.

[Sable Phoenix]

Good idea, Link. Those are the days of CoH I think I enjoyed more than any other, when the game and everything related to it could have been anything and was only limited by our own imaginations.

I'm out too. Not only is the game no longer fun, but neither is the community, really. This has been coming for me for a while now, it's only marginally related to what's going on, but I figure I might as well get it out of the way. The boards are more a habit than anything else by now, one that profits nothing and thus one I should break. At least I've got almost a year of good memories and some lifelong friends out of it.

Most anyone who cares knows how to reach me, those who don't and want to can look at the information in my profile, my messenger service handles and email are there.

One last thing before letting myself out. Who here knows how to reach the Imperial? I owe him some artwork.

[IamLink]

I think the community has gradually gotten worse since the game came out...There were some highs, but I just have grown more tired of these boards as the days go on. :cry:

[Malibu Sally]

You know what? If anyone feels the need to quit participating in the forums... just do so. Don't post. Don't explain. Just go. If you must offer an explanation, then send a few PM's to those you feel you can trust.

Al and Noble: I am disappointed in both of you. Running and hiding solve nothing.

Sable: Your departure is becoming like the KISS farewell tour... It never ends.

[Xielos]

Yeah, I'm gone too guys, since everyone else is leaving. See you all around.

...

Good Lord people come off it. Get a grip, this is just a forum, no need for all of this. All you people are just acting childish.

[Krypto]

Good idea, Link. Those are the days of CoH I think I enjoyed more than any other, when the game and everything related to it could have been anything and was only limited by our own imaginations.

I'm out too. Not only is the game no longer fun, but neither is the community, really. This has been coming for me for a while now, it's only marginally related to what's going on, but I figure I might as well get it out of the way. The boards are more a habit than anything else by now, one that profits nothing and thus one I should break. At least I've got almost a year of good memories and some lifelong friends out of it.

Most anyone who cares knows how to reach me, those who don't and want to can look at the information in my profile, my messenger service handles and email are there.

One last thing before letting myself out. Who here knows how to reach the Imperial? I owe him some artwork.



Taking bets hyah! Taking bets! Who wants to bet on how long it takes for Sable to come back?

2 weeks, 3 weeks?

[Krypto]

Mass exodus eh?

Deja Vu

[Mahaf]

Mass exodus eh?

Deja Vu
... I still can't believe they took Krypto from you. :cry:

[Overbite]

Well...I'm not going anywere...

/me grabs Malibu's hand and starts to tango...

On a serious note I have no idea what's going on here...but to everyone who's deciding to leave is it really worth it over a few scuffles? I mean this is a public forum, with different people with different opinions, beleives, and personalities. Ofcourse you'll have your occasional beef or two. But that doesn't mean you should just up and leave behind people you've known for what...a year and some odd months? Whatever happend to working things out...thats the only thing I know a problem gets fixed. Not leaving on a sour note.

THe summer is coming up for crying out loud. Are you seriously just going to ignore this community when all that free time comes about?

So many different personalities is what keeps a forum going. Everyone brings something new to the community. Like I said before ofcourse people are going to bump heads from time to time but it's nothing you can't recover from. I think we all have the maturity to admit when we're wrong. And that all it takes to end an argument...for that one person to just be like "Yo Dawg, you right, my bad. I love you" (not necessarily like that but ya get my drift)

I dont think any of you really want to leave, it's more of the in the moment thing for some of you. Just from now on just take your beefs to a pm so it's more of a one on one deal and not so much for the public to make their own opinions on the matter...

Anyhoo...That's all I got to say. To everyone deciding to leave ultimatly it's your choice, but understand it's a choice that you need to be able to stick with. So please...think it threw before you say those 'last words'.

[Mahaf]

Hehe, lemme just say that one of my best friends from this community also happens to be one I have the most heated arguments with... Rick (And Charon as well), you are the bomb-diggity, my friend. :)

[Magna Harrier]

I'll take that bet, Krypto, and raise you 5 influence!
Seriously... if social impetus is enough to chase you folks away, then by all means go. Search for your magic, conflict free wonderland.

[Blue Bolt]

I'm staying. Leaving because you didn't like the company running the forums is one thing, leaving because of one person in the forums is another. It's all about the people you do like, not the people you don't. It seems like some of the members causing the drama (or making it public) are also the ones leaving, so maybe that means things will calm down.

Cmon guys, this is getting ridiculous. O_o

<waves at Viek and Sally> :)

[8 Ball]

You spelled Ridiculous wrong...

*runs away* :P

[Blue Bolt]

Fixed, with emphasis and embarassment
<hopes he didn't just make more errors>

[OneHitWonder]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry for what happened in the past, and I'm sorry for what's happening now. I'm really, really sorry. I never meant to hurt anyone.

My life has been shattered, and I'm trying to put the pieces back together. I have lost so much, but the worst thing is I have lost my best friends. I deeply regret that. I've made a lot of mistakes, and I've been punished for them. Now I am trying to look towards the future, live in the now, and put the past behind me.

I want to thank all of you who have talked to me via AIM or in game. I really appreciate your support and your honesty.

[Esbat]

Oi vey... how can a 12 year old lead a mass exodus, I mean really? o.O

He's left I don't know how many times... once even over the jiggly thread... he'll be back, sheesh.

[The Widowed]

You know what? If anyone feels the need to quit participating in the forums... just do so. Don't post. Don't explain. Just go. If you must offer an explanation, then send a few PM's to those you feel you can trust.

Al and Noble: I am disappointed in both of you. Running and hiding solve nothing.

Sable: Your departure is becoming like the KISS farewell tour... It never ends.
Well, it's good to know that we can always count on Mally Sal to speak the brutal, honest-to-goodness truth.

I probably shouldn't have made a huge fuss over the OGaming exodus, with calling Bogo out and confronting him directly like I did. I should have just meandered my way out, to leave people to make their own decisions. But at least in that protest I can take comfort in knowing that I helped people flee a forum which had grown neglected and corrupt...one voice among many, as it were. My assault on Bogo may have at least served that purpose.

But this? I see no purpose in carrying on with such an uproar. Yes, I know about One Hit Wonder and Poison and the rest. No, it didn't affect me personally, so I'm not going to raise Hell in the forums about it; Maybe Wonder has been lessened because of what she did, but until she betrays me personally, well, why should I call for her head on a platter?

I and my SO believe strongly in keeping our online lives separate from our offline lives. Right now, I'm in the process of evicting somebody who owes us almost $2000. If I were to come across them in the forums, would I hound them and tell everybody what rotten people they are for bouncing checks and going delinquent on their rent? Of course not. That's what real life is for. Why drag their name through the online mud when I can go knock on their door or pick up the telephone anytime I feel like giving them ****?

Besides, I've been in so many arguments and flamewars that I've learned not to take things personally anymore, to consider the source in any argument and to weigh the testimony/evidence/argument/flame by its own merits, determine its validity and then decide if I should take it personally. As you may observe shortly, Krypto and I have traded blows in the past. Can I still talk to him? Sure I can...because I chose not to take him or his words personally. And even though there are only one or two other regulars in these forums--past or present--whom I've found to be simply insufferable and worthy of whatever negative energy I can muster, they'll never be a strong enough presence to drive me from these forums. I'll ignore them, or maybe I'll even lay into them with the occasional "How ya doin', you bottom-feeding, goat-fellating ass parasite?", but I simply refuse to let those loathsome people determine where I will and will not spend my time online, no matter how much they piss me off.

Maybe it's sound reasoning. Maybe it's stoicism. Maybe it's spite. Maybe it's some twisted little part of me that needs to have a handy enemy whom I can bash now and then. Even I don't know. But whatever it is, it keeps me coming back for more. And whatever it is, the folks who are running screaming for the gates because Wondy's back in town might want to consider taking it up for themselves. Let reason, stoicism, spite or a twisted gluttony for conflict be your shield against this negative presence that I'm hearing so much talk about.

And I won't even charge a fee for my philosophical tutelage, either. :rolleyes:

Taking bets hyah! Taking bets! Who wants to bet on how long it takes for Sable to come back?

2 weeks, 3 weeks?
How about three days? I'd bet a thousand on it. Sable's like that dog in the Book of Proverbs: He may claim to hate the vomit--and he doth loudly protest--yet he keeps coming back to it. >:]

[Vendel]

OK...as most of you know im a fairly laid back guy. But when something hits me I will speak up.(IE the old debates forum come to mind) And I have something to say.

First off you people who are leaveing. Sorry to see you go but if you feel your reasons are justified then go we can't stop you. Although there is no reason to make a 1000 word post everytime someone decided to leave. Just say goodbye and leave it at that. Or say nothign at all.

Second. Those of you that are bad mouthing those that are leaveing. Where the F*ck do you get off. Espically those of you who don't have the first clue why. If someone wants to leave wish them well and leave it at that. Or say nothing at all. No need for a 1000 word post about why you think that person is wrong/childish/running/ect/ect. Not helping at all.

Third. One Hit Wonder you had to know something like this was gonna happen. Now I have remained netural on the whole situation for my own reasons. But you hurt some people deeply and you should have known better than to think you could just waltz in here without it causeing some sort of reaction. If you did know and came anyways then i jsut don't know where to begin with that. If you thought you could put it all behind you and everything was hunky doorey then im sorry that was very naive of you. Either way I wish no one ill will. Least of all you.

There I have said my peace. Now I will speak on the subject no more.

[Chain Lightning]

You know what? If anyone feels the need to quit participating in the forums... just do so. Don't post. Don't explain. Just go. If you must offer an explanation, then send a few PM's to those you feel you can trust.

.

I'm in agreement. I've always seen a 'I'm leaving' post as nothing more than an attempt to grab attention. Sorry, but if you need validation from an internet message board, then you have more problems then just not getting along with people you don't know. And please, don't make the 'these are my friends' argument. Bottom line is, this is the INTERNET and you don't really get to know people here. You may think you do, but it's a facade. So to those leaving, I'm not going to say I miss you, cause quite frankly, I'm not going to. I don't have enough invested in you emotionally to have a reason to miss you. I haven't spent any part of my life growing up with you, hanging out, seeing movies, taking vacations, or doing any of the things that actually do form bonding friendships. You're just faceless entities.

Also, you know there is a really good way to deal with drama on a message board. Don't freaking read it. You know how I deal with a thread that either offends me, or where I think certain posters are being jackasses? I QUIT FREAKING READING IT! You're not sheep, you have free will. Use it. If I want to get involved in a 'dramatic' thread like this one I do. If I don't I move on. WOW. What a concept.

Here, I'll give you posters that are leaving the validation you're seeking.
Leave. While I won't mention names a couple of you were starting to get on my nerves anyway.

[Necra]

Who.. what .. how? Seems I'm always out of the loop.... just how many people are leaving? Who is One Hit Wonder? and what did One Hit Wonder do that was so horrible to make Tarkenchi and Alumette leave? In any case .... I'm sorry to see you leave Tark and Alumette... hope you all change your minds... :(

[suburbanhell]

:jono: :jono: :jono: :jono:

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

:jono: :jono: :jono: :jono:

[sheld0n]

So why wont anyone just say what the heck happened there, so we can all know whats going on?
If it really does affect the entire forum in such a magnitude, i dont think anyone can say its not our buissness.

[Istasi]

Istasi is younger :-Þ

Fo' sho'! Still twelve over here! :p

Oi vey... how can a 12 year old lead a mass exodus, I mean really? o.O

He's 13 now. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

This whole thing is just silly, guys.

[Alumette]

Please read my post before making assumptions about what I am and am not doing. Look at what I say, not at what you think I'm saying.

To clarify, I'm not leaving permanently, I just plan to take a break until the dust settles, and I posted what I did to offer an explanation for my absence. It's no different from someone saying "I'm going to Aruba for a few weeks, so I won't be around; but I'll see you when I get back!"

OHW did nothing to make me leave. There was nothing any person or persons did to make me leave. I'm not leaving. I'm simply restricting my participation in the forums to the RPs I'm involved in and my supergroup. What's making me step back from this place has more to do with the fact that, as Wids has pointed out, things have happened in which people have not been able to keep real life and their online life separate. I agree, the solution is to ignore the threads that don't affect/interest us. I have been doing that since I joined this community (honestly, how many times have I posted in the Jiggly thread, for example?) :)

My reasons for taking a leave of absence have to do with the fact that the current situation and recent drama have gotten too big for me to comfortably ignore, because I feel like everywhere I turn there it is. The other solution that has been suggested has been to try to do something to help. I've done that too and it's been considered adding to the drama, something I'm not interested in doing.

So I'm removing myself from the equation entirely. In essence, "I'm going to Aruba for a few weeks, see you all when I get back."

I hope that's more clear now. Sorry if my post was confusing before.

[Grae Knight]

Wow! I am still very new to these forums, but I think they are great. I can't really understand why someone would leave because of another poster. If the forums are run wrong I can see leaving. Just avoid or ignore that person if you can not deal with him/her. I am going to have to print out a copy of all these posts and give it to my friend who is studying for her psychiatry degree. There may be just a few people here who need a little therapy..not that that is a bad thing.

I came to these forum boards because an in-game friend said this was a good place to network about the game and pick up some great game strategies and hints. It has definitely done that! The side drama is just a bonus. Who needs daytime soaps when you have CoHGuru.com!

I nominate this forum for a Daytime Emmy

[Impact]

I nominate this forum for a Daytime Emmy


Ok ok....I'm sorry....I *know* this is a serious thread....but for some reason that just made me start laughing here in the lab. :lol: :chuckle:

Thanks Grae Knight, laughter is something this place needs a little more of.

[Grae Knight]

Thanks Frost..the Thread was getting to be a real downer.. :cry:

Laughter cures all :chuckle:

[Masked Revenger]

OK...as most of you know im a fairly laid back guy. But when something hits me I will speak up.(IE the old debates forum come to mind) And I have something to say.

First off you people who are leaveing. Sorry to see you go but if you feel your reasons are justified then go we can't stop you. Although there is no reason to make a 1000 word post everytime someone decided to leave. Just say goodbye and leave it at that. Or say nothign at all.

Second. Those of you that are bad mouthing those that are leaveing. Where the F*ck do you get off. Espically those of you who don't have the first clue why. If someone wants to leave wish them well and leave it at that. Or say nothing at all. No need for a 1000 word post about why you think that person is wrong/childish/running/ect/ect. Not helping at all.

Third. One Hit Wonder you had to know something like this was gonna happen. Now I have remained netural on the whole situation for my own reasons. But you hurt some people deeply and you should have known better than to think you could just waltz in here without it causeing some sort of reaction. If you did know and came anyways then i jsut don't know where to begin with that. If you thought you could put it all behind you and everything was hunky doorey then im sorry that was very naive of you. Either way I wish no one ill will. Least of all you.

There I have said my peace. Now I will speak on the subject no more.

I pretty much agree with everything said here.

Chris

[Magna Harrier]

I'm in agreement. I've always seen a 'I'm leaving' post as nothing more than an attempt to grab attention. Sorry, but if you need validation from an internet message board, then you have more problems then just not getting along with people you don't know. And please, don't make the 'these are my friends' argument. Bottom line is, this is the INTERNET and you don't really get to know people here. You may think you do, but it's a facade. So to those leaving, I'm not going to say I miss you, cause quite frankly, I'm not going to. I don't have enough invested in you emotionally to have a reason to miss you. I haven't spent any part of my life growing up with you, hanging out, seeing movies, taking vacations, or doing any of the things that actually do form bonding friendships. You're just faceless entities.

Also, you know there is a really good way to deal with drama on a message board. Don't freaking read it. You know how I deal with a thread that either offends me, or where I think certain posters are being jackasses? I QUIT FREAKING READING IT! You're not sheep, you have free will. Use it. If I want to get involved in a 'dramatic' thread like this one I do. If I don't I move on. WOW. What a concept.

Here, I'll give you posters that are leaving the validation you're seeking.
Leave. While I won't mention names a couple of you were starting to get on my nerves anyway.


Chain, you're my hero. :) Saved me from having to think about how to write the above opinion, only in fewer words. Now, all I have to say is, "I agree with all the above quote". Now, I have time to doall the things I've always wanted... like eat this apple!

[ShadowSoldier]

I nominate this forum for a Daytime Emmy
Now that's the good old COHGuru Spirit!
And I'm glad that people leave messages before leaving the forum. Just don't explain yourself.....It makes you look dumber. To all that are leaving: :cry:

[Xanatos]

Now that's the good old COHGuru Spirit
Where did it go eh?

Tark I apologize for closing this thread. It's not that I don't mind your initial post - really I appreciate you letting us know you're leaving - but it is some of the negative replies that are forcing me to close it.

Hope you understand buddy. And I hope to talk to you on AIM. :)

-Xan