What Ticks You Off?

[RAGNARöK]

Hello, I just felt the need to share with all of you on what ticks me off.:angry:

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Losing connection to mapserver when face to face with the last guy on a mission map. :cuss:

I'm sure you all experienced this before and can relate.:grr:

[Pinny]

The fact that no matter how hard I try, I can't think of any good character concepts. And the times I DO have an idea for one I get stuck at the name part, then just give up...

[Charon]

Ill concieved plot twists.

[RedSwitchblade]

Abusers of power (of which I am guilty, I never said I loved myself) and people who are blatantly ignorant **** me off. Really bad typists **** me off, so do Dominators dying against Longbow. Elitist attitudes **** me off. A slow work day pisses me off. While we're at it, a cheap-ass immigrant looking for a $400 dollar laptop pisses me off. Interjecting myself at the wrong time pisses me off. Alcoholics **** me off when they want me to drink with them. Paris Hilton and the rest of the superficial braindead automaton society that likes her pisses me off. Being pissed off pisses me off. Being unable to advance a story pisses me off. Dead Rising's 3-day timer pisses me off. Zergling rushes **** me off. Pointless arguments **** me off. PVP gankers **** me off. Botched respecs **** me off. Having more than one thing in this about COX pisses me off. Car repairs **** me off. Long waits **** me off.

But generally I'm a very happy guy! I just get annoyed easily, then it goes away.

[RedSwitchblade]

On a side note:

How the HELL do you play with a resolution that small, Rag?!

[Stalking Shadow]

Poor grammar.

[Krypto]

On a side note:

How the HELL do you play with a resolution that small, Rag?!

Omg, I know. :p

[Kinetix]

*adds a page to Red's list*

Agreed on the resolution.

[MajorMarvel]

Phonys and old people. all the problems with the world come from the old people. list me anything and I can tell you its caused by sombody in their 50s. People over 50 should not be allowed to talk in public.

[Remianen]

Golddiggers. People who mistake ambivalence for inattentiveness (Yes, I heard what you said. I just don't care.). People who ask stupid questions ("You hungry?" when I'm looking in the refrigerator. Naw, I aint hungry. I needed to take a leak. :rolleyes: ). People who seem allergic to RTFM (especially in games). The Wing-T offense. The officiating team for Super Bowl XL.

Man, this list is too freakin' long to post here. :P

[Kinetix]

Phonys and old people. all the problems with the world come from the old people. list me anything and I can tell you its caused by sombody in their 50s. People over 50 should not be allowed to talk in public.

Gang violence and drug use?

[razoras]

Gang violence and drug use?

The elderly or just plain old folks over 50 routinely vote against tax increases that would contribute significantly to the funding of schools or public libraries in their area (which contributes to an educated and healthier society). The reasoning is generally a selfish, short-sighted "I don't have kids anymore, why do I care?" in polls. This helps contribute to a "poorer become poorer" education and economic gap, and large communities of poor people generally leads to crime.

Other reasons in polling...
Who needs that thar edumacation anyways or free access to information! Theys just need to git internets and not spend muh moneys! We don't want homeless or poor people around this neighborhood, and libraries if where they be! Hurrr!

[Pinny]

Drug use - Hey! That old fart is taking drugs! Thats awesome! Lets screw up our bodies by taking drugs because we have no freaking idea what were doing!!

Just kidding of course

[Kinetix]

Well played, Raz. Hmmmm....

[razoras]

Elderly can be blamed for anything!

[Solario]

At least back in the Roman Empire they had the decency to throw themselves off a bridge at 60.

[Bitter Babe]

People who decide to go to your office manager and tattle on you instead of talking to you and try to get you in trouble.

[Tarberetta]

Too many to list.

I'm in a good mood too, I'll stop back when I'm in a bad mood and make things interesting :tarby:

[Grae Knight]

Phonys and old people. all the problems with the world come from the old people. list me anything and I can tell you its caused by sombody in their 50s. People over 50 should not be allowed to talk in public.

I say the same about Liberals :)

[Kinetix]

I say the same about Liberals :)

Except they're not the ones in power (a bit of a change recently) fecking everything up.

[Grae Knight]

Except they're not the ones in power (a bit of a change recently) fecking everything up.

Mommy told me never discuss politics nor religion with friends.

[Bitter Babe]

Yes politics and family/friends don't mix

[Grae Knight]

Yes politics and family/friends don't mix

Yup, that is why I stick to talking about sex! BOOBIES!!!!

[RAGNARöK]

On a side note:

How the HELL do you play with a resolution that small, Rag?!

Because a resolution setting of 800x600 pisses me off! lol Joking aside, the resolution doesn't bother me. I paint 25mm pewter figurines as a hobbie and so my eye sight doesnt' strain on a resolution of 1152x864. :cool:

[Krypto]

Heh, they're saying it's a small resolution, not a big one. If you want eye-straining, try 1440x900. :P

[RAGNARöK]

Heh, they're saying it's a small resolution, not a big one. If you want eye-straining, try 1440x900. :P


I know... I never said anything about a big resolution so I'm having a hard time understanding your point. No offence really.

I was surprised that so many complained about my resolution, I was beginning to think a lot of people were blind. It's not that small, well at least not to me... I've actually tried it at 1440x900 just for kicks and well, it hurts lol. Plus 1440x900 will make my cheap computer have a conniption fit. :)

[razoras]

I believe people were assuming you played at 800 x 600 based on the size of the UI in your screenshot.

[RAGNARöK]

I believe people were assuming you played at 800 x 600 based on the size of the UI in your screenshot.

Hmm, how else is my UI supposed to look like? :eyebrow: Anyway, If I had it at 800x600 the UI windows would over lap each other, that's the whole reason why I run it at 1152x864. I would love less clutter on my UI believe me. I just never figured out how to go about doing it without completely removing them from view. I recall in the past seeing other screen shots from another player who had less clutter but the same stuff was up and I haven't figure out how to do that. Well, I've fiddled with the menu options before with little success, but I'm willing to take some advice on how to utilize my viewing ability without hindering my UI accessibility. :cool:

[razoras]

There's a couple options available to you if your system can't handle a bigger resolution. There's a "UI Scale" that shrinks everything or, if you have a big UI, makes it bigger (I think).

You can also actually switch to a big resolution and, in the graphics options, decrease the rendering resolution. You can have the crisp UI look of a large UI with effectively the same look of the lower resolution on everything else.

I played at 800 x 600 for 2 years. For most of that time I just used the UI scale at about 80 or 85%. I also tried playing with the big resolution combined with the low render resolution. It wasn't too bad but there was a "blurry" feel that came with it so I just switched back to 800 x 600.

[bpphantom]

Threadjacking ****es me off! (kidding ;) ).

Hrm, let's see.
Children (I will not get into it all being the fault of the parents)
Old feebs (old folks that are still active and doing good are fine by me)
The great unwashed masses (referring to ignorant morons that make up the vast majority of the world)
Users (a subset of the above)
Luddites (go into the forest and die)
The technologically illiterate (it's 2007, learn F-ing Office!)
Linux vs PC vs Mac debates (shut yer festering gobs already)
Poor application design (I shouldn't REQUIRE a swap file, and everything should be able to find a network path)
WoW vs all debates (It's a really vanilla game with pretty polish on it)
HD (wonderful, it costs more to see that all my favorite starlets and porn actresses ain't all that. F-U too)
Bad porn directors (watching normal porn, nobody wants to see some guys hairy ass in the way of the hottie)

Well, off for breakfast. :D

[Graphite]

Tuna Fish. It smells.

[RAGNARöK]

Hmm, how else is my UI supposed to look like? :eyebrow: Anyway, If I had it at 800x600 the UI windows would over lap each other, that's the whole reason why I run it at 1152x864. I would love less clutter on my UI believe me. I just never figured out how to go about doing it without completely removing them from view. I recall in the past seeing other screen shots from another player who had less clutter but the same stuff was up and I haven't figure out how to do that. Well, I've fiddled with the menu options before with little success, but I'm willing to take some advice on how to utilize my viewing ability without hindering my UI accessibility. :cool:

I'm such a dork, I did have my settings at 800x600, I "thought" it was at the setting of my desktop of 1152x864. Boy was I wrong. And ya know what? My game seems to run much smoother now too. Go figure. :lol:

Threadjacking ****es me off! (kidding ;) ).

Hrm, let's see.
Children (I will not get into it all being the fault of the parents)
Old feebs (old folks that are still active and doing good are fine by me)
The great unwashed masses (referring to ignorant morons that make up the vast majority of the world)
Users (a subset of the above)
Luddites (go into the forest and die)
The technologically illiterate (it's 2007, learn F-ing Office!)
Linux vs PC vs Mac debates (shut yer festering gobs already)
Poor application design (I shouldn't REQUIRE a swap file, and everything should be able to find a network path)
WoW vs all debates (It's a really vanilla game with pretty polish on it)
HD (wonderful, it costs more to see that all my favorite starlets and porn actresses ain't all that. F-U too)
Bad porn directors (watching normal porn, nobody wants to see some guys hairy ass in the way of the hottie)

Well, off for breakfast. :D

:haha: :yoy: :o :barf: :jawdrop: Sorry, I had to put the faces of shock and disbelief due to never hearing so much ranting about porn before and the part about some guys hairy ass was a scarry mental image that I had to fight to block out.:jono: :::shivers with disgust::: lol

[Kinetix]

Plus you get a lot more space for gameplay and increased detail.

[Graphite]

I ****ing scrached my Firefly DvD! Sooooo pissed. Pissed Pissed Pissed. Sure, it was because I was too focused on the girl next to me to notice that I was putting it in the tray wrong.... but I love that series. Now it has a massive scratch and skips in areas of each episode.

Damn it!


(oh and this didn't seem worth a new thread so I just posted here.)

[Tsarmina]

Having bad headaches (or being sick for that matter) for the weekend but feeling fine in time to go back to work on Monday. Bah.

Lag really pisses me off.
And a random /tell which tries to initiate cyborz (just because I'm playing a female feline?)

Dump trucks/rigs with full loads in front of me on my travel from work to my home... there are some nice long up hills to traverse. (and since it's the country, the roundabout way would take longer)

[Gaia]

Hmm what pisses me off. . .

No money
My kids not listening
No money
Having to sell off my Mothers' Day present so we can have food/gas
No money
Not being able to take a vacation for the last 6 years
No money
Broken down piece of crap truck that didn't pass DEQ
No money
Bills and bill collectors
No money
Not getting daughter to school on time
No money
Having to buy trip permits for piece of crap truck till it can be fixed
No money
Husband bumping neighbor's car and putting dent in it
No money
Unclean house and being nagged to clean it without a vacume cleaner
No money

But at least I'm able to still play the game for a few days. . .Well off to take monsters to school and run errands. Have a nice day!

[Seadevil]

People the drive with their DAMN headlights on in the middle of the day.

Lazy co-workers not getting anything done.

Diamond Comic Distributors.

[Tsarmina]

People the drive with their DAMN headlights on in the middle of the day.
Um.... daytime running lights? I don't have a choice, my lights are always on.
(and if they weren't, I'd leave em on just to bother you) :P

Awww Gaia... *sends some fudge oreos*

[Seadevil]

Um.... daytime running lights? I don't have a choice, my lights are always on.
(and if they weren't, I'd leave em on just to bother you) :P


They serve no purpose though! Rabblerabblerabble...

[Malibu Sally]

They serve no purpose though! Rabblerabblerabble...
They irritate you. Purpose served. :P

[Tsarmina]

Hehehe. I was thinkin the same thing.
I think it's for safety? Can't forget to turn on the headlights when it's rainy if they are always on. *shrug* Or it means they win cuz I have to replace the bulbs more often.

One thing that really annoys me is what I call around-the-world-to-the-left(or right). The clueless driver who leaves on thier turn signal. *grumble*

[Sun-Scarab]

Fights you can't win.

[Remianen]

People who need "healers" in modern MMOs. (****ing morons, prevent the damage from being done. Don't rely on bandaids. ****, I'm a ****ing EQhead and even I get that! Then again, I played a Shaman for a long stretch so maybe that helps)

Runners (People used to wonder how a level 1 druid spell could be considered the most powerful/useful in the game. duh. Because it allows players to live despite the ****ing moronic AI programmed into EVERY damn MMO)

Companies where one department has NFC what another division of the same department is doing (Con Edison called me Wednesday to say I hadn't paid my electric bill. Not only had I paid it, I OVERPAID it as usual. Turns out the billing department is split into parts and they hadn't entered it into the field of the database that would allow the other part to see the bill had been paid. Idiots)

Brad McQuaid (****in' *****)

[Vendel]

Buying a new game only to fond out it doesnt work on your computer.

[WingedAvenger]

Buying a new game only to fond out it doesnt work on your computer.

Hell yes. F' NWN2 in that regard.

And F' EBGames for not taking it back.

[Boston Rage]

Weak people

[The Widowed]

I think it's for safety? Can't forget to turn on the headlights when it's rainy if they are always on. *shrug* Or it means they win cuz I have to replace the bulbs more often.
My Cavalier's manual explains that it's because even in the daytime, a car with its headlights on is ever so slightly more visible than a car with its headlights off.

What ticks me off? People with their high beams blazing away when they're coming at me in the other lane on a country road. Yes, retards, I know it's a country road and there aren't any street lamps. That doesn't give you the right to break the standard about turning down your brights when you're within 200 yards or so of another vehicle. "Ohmigod, it's dark and scary! I'm blind without my high beams!" Well, I'm blind with your high beams! Heaven forbid I should try to counterblind them by cranking on my high beams in retaliation, though; Knowing my luck, their blind asses would meet me head-on in a heartbeat. :grr:

Know what else ticks me off? Big oversized trucks and SUVs. What ticks me off even more? Jackasses who act like their big oversized truck or SUV gives them the right to bully me and my little Cavalier by riding my bumper, like they want to push me down the road or bump-draft me into going faster because ohmigod, I'm only going 70 in a 60 and that's just not fast enough for them, oh no! And it gets even worse when it's at night and the bumper-riding big-ass truck has its high beams on. Like I really want that in my rear view. I swear, one of these days I'm going to rekindle my electronics savvy and knock together a pair of caltrop droppers for my car.... :grr:

One thing that really annoys me is what I call around-the-world-to-the-left(or right). The clueless driver who leaves on thier turn signal. *grumble*
Yeah, that's annoying too. "Blink, blink, blink, blink..." "Come on, get in my lane already." "Blink, blink, blink, blink..." "See me waving my hand? Hear me tooting my horn? Get in my lane and turn off that freakin' signal!" "Blink, blink, blink, blink..."

That's about as bad as the yuppie corporate America hellspawn who go slaloming their way through traffic without using their turn signals even once. Yes, yuppie snotbag, I know the turn signal makes that little clicky-clicky noise and it probably irritates your spoiled, princess-like sensitivities quite painfully, but if you're going to cut in front of my car so close that I could lean out my window and spit a pumpkin seed on your backglass, you had damn well better be using that turn signal. I swear, if I was a millionaire I would buy a street-legal Humvee, deliberately go to ramming speed and cave in these assclowns' rear ends everytime they did that to me, then pay my lawyer and the court however much it took to keep that crap off my license. Nevermind that I would be freakin' justified in getting these self-absorbed suitboys who treat other drivers as mere obstacles--and their fancy-ass cars--off the roads for a day or three.... :grr:

Weak people
"Conan, what is best in life?"

Sheesh. What are you, a Klingon or something? :p

[RAGNARöK]

Wow... Totally not what I was expecting in this thread lol. I was griping for getting disconnected just before the end of a mission while fighting the last guy and wanted to vent lol. Seems like everyone needed to vent and I supposed it works out. I should post a thread on what everyone loves or would like to have in their lives. So, I'm jacking my own thread. :P

What Makes You Happy? :think:

I'm finally a home owner in the perfect neighborhood.

[Seadevil]

What Makes You Happy?

Yin's mom.

"Conan, what is best in life?"

"To crush your enemies. To see zem driven before you. To hear de lamentation of da vimen." :D

[Tsarmina]

Know what else ticks me off? Big oversized trucks and SUVs. What ticks me off even more? Jackasses who act like their big oversized truck or SUV gives them the right to bully me and my little Cavalier by riding my bumper, like they want to push me down the road or bump-draft me into going faster because ohmigod, I'm only going 70 in a 60 and that's just not fast enough for them, oh no! And it gets even worse when it's at night and the bumper-riding big-ass truck has its high beams on. Like I really want that in my rear view. I swear, one of these days I'm going to rekindle my electronics savvy and knock together a pair of caltrop droppers for my car.... :grr:

Heh. I'm the b*tch that s l o w s way down, adjust my mirror so the highbeams don't blind me and just putter along below the speed limit. (not by much but just under)
I
will
not
be
bullied!!!

[Knightward]

How about those crazy parent drivers that think because they have a kid in the car they can run red lights and cut across whatever traffic because the roads will part like they're freaking Moses? They sure as hell **** me off.

[Gaia]

I'm sorry to hear that. :P :shinner: *raises staff into the air to part the road*

*Then goes driving off while trying to disipline son who is kicking back of chair, blowing bubbles with a bubble gun, and yelling at the top of his lungs. Daughter throwing a temper fit because she doesn't like the song on the radio. And trying to yell over the two monsters into the cel mic while listening in hands free headset to husband giving stupid orders about errands that have already been run and he has been told 2 phone calls earlier that they had been done.*

By the way I don't drive the way Knightward says. My driving record is extremely safe. Really don't feel like receiving a $500 fine because I looked at a cop cross-eyed or something.

[Krypto]

Heh. I'm the b*tch that s l o w s way down, adjust my mirror so the highbeams don't blind me and just putter along below the speed limit. (not by much but just under)
I
will
not
be
bullied!!!


And that is how wrecks are caused, ladies and gentlemen. It's not about being bullied, it's about the simple fact that you're obstructing traffic, which in turn could cause an accident. The other lanes are there for a reason, some roads even have signs SAYING "Slower traffic stay to the right". Not to mention backing up traffic, when the entire left lane in an interstate is backed up because one jackass is going 60 miles per hour and refuses to get over, they should have their license removed.

If you're in the fast lane, either drive fast or GTFO. If you're on a one lane road, there is also no reason to be an ass and PURPOSEFULLY slow down just for the sake of pissing someone off. If someone's riding your ass, it's probably because you're under the speed limit anyway.

[Xanatos]

Bill Alfonso

And his ****ing whistle!

[Charon]

If you're in the fast lane, either drive fast or GTFO.
:lol: Sheesh.

[RedSwitchblade]

I hate humiliating myself.

Like when I got into an accident in the parking lot on my lunch break... before I even made it out.

First accident I ever caused, though.

[Malibu Sally]

And that is how wrecks are caused, ladies and gentlemen. It's not about being bullied, it's about the simple fact that you're obstructing traffic, which in turn could cause an accident. The other lanes are there for a reason, some roads even have signs SAYING "Slower traffic stay to the right". Not to mention backing up traffic, when the entire left lane in an interstate is backed up because one jackass is going 60 miles per hour and refuses to get over, they should have their license removed.

If you're in the fast lane, either drive fast or GTFO. If you're on a one lane road, there is also no reason to be an ass and PURPOSEFULLY slow down just for the sake of pissing someone off. If someone's riding your ass, it's probably because you're under the speed limit anyway.
What ticks me off? People who mislabel the "PASSING" lane and call is something it is not: the"fast" lane.:P

[Meltman]

And that is how wrecks are caused, ladies and gentlemen.

And I'm sure people doing 90 in the passing lane never cause them.


If someone's riding your ass, it's probably because you're under the speed limit anyway.

Ha!

Right. :rolleyes:

[The Widowed]

Heh. I'm the b*tch that s l o w s way down, adjust my mirror so the highbeams don't blind me and just putter along below the speed limit. (not by much but just under)
I
will
not
be
bullied!!!

Hmmm...nah. The blind bastard might rear-end me because he doesn't see my brakelights (or he might be a hostile bastard who might rear-end me just to make a point). I like my Trop Dropper™ idea better. :p

And that is how wrecks are caused, ladies and gentlemen. It's not about being bullied, it's about the simple fact that you're obstructing traffic, which in turn could cause an accident....<snip>
Now you know! This Public Service Announcement has been brought to you by Robby "I Don't Preach, Really, Swear to God" Bertbear. :P

If you're in the fast lane, either drive fast or GTFO. If you're on a one lane road, there is also no reason to be an ass and PURPOSEFULLY slow down just for the sake of pissing someone off. If someone's riding your ass, it's probably because you're under the speed limit anyway.
Yeah...because speedometers don't exist in Krypto's world. :P

I check my speedometer: 60 MPH.

I check the speed limit sign: 50 MPH.*

And that Navigator's hogging up my rear arc because I'm going under the speed limit? Bullschitski. He's hogging up my rear arc because he's a peckerhead who thinks he's driving his bad-ass invincible oversized SUV in fockin' NASCAR, man. Castrate all of the bastards, I say. :rolleyes:

*(Yeah, I'm a speeder. I admit it. But a cop usually won't pull you over at those speeds because the courts don't hit the jackpot unless they catch you going at least 15 miles over. But be sure to drive the speed limit if, say, you're driving around on Tuesday at 3:00 AM; Bored cops are a whole new menace to the common speeder, let me tell you. :rolleyes: )

And I'm sure people doing 90 in the passing lane never cause them.
They sure as hell do!

...They're the ones getting rear-ended by all the snooty BMW's and Camaros going 105 in the passing lane on I-270. :P

[Alumette]

What pisses me off?

The Language in The Master Agreement. And She-Who-Breeds.

I'm too upset to really elaborate further.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Seadevil]

And She-Who-Breeds.

If this is not slang for Yin's mom, I do not know what is!


Joking. <3 you Yin.

[Krypto]

And I'm sure people doing 90 in the passing lane never cause them.

And I'm sure people never have accidents going 30 MPH...oh wait, they do. Speed doesn't matter, accidents happen at ANY speed. It's the circumstances around the accidents that cause them, whether someone isn't paying attention and swerves into another car/rear ends them, runs a red light, or loses control in bad weather. Please try and come up with a decent argument next time.




Ha!

Right. :rolleyes:

Well, that's the only time I'll get on someone's ass. Some people are ****s, but my point is that if you're on a one-lane road, it's childish to purposefully slow down just to be an ass.


Hmmm...nah. The blind bastard might rear-end me because he doesn't see my brakelights (or he might be a hostile bastard who might rear-end me just to make a point). I like my Trop Dropper™ idea better. :p

I haven't seen anyone in Missouri rear-end someone who was going slow "just to make a point". Most accidents I've seen on the highway were caused in either bad weather, or in stop and go traffic. Mainly, not paying attention that someone else was stopped, and rear-ending them. NOT going 90 miles per hour on the freeway.



Yeah...because speedometers don't exist in Krypto's world. :P

I check my speedometer: 60 MPH.

I check the speed limit sign: 50 MPH.*

And that Navigator's hogging up my rear arc because I'm going under the speed limit? Bullschitski. He's hogging up my rear arc because he's a peckerhead who thinks he's driving his bad-ass invincible oversized SUV in fockin' NASCAR, man. Castrate all of the bastards, I say. :rolleyes:

Fair enough, the guy's a ****. But what do you expect living in Crap Louis? :P

*(Yeah, I'm a speeder. I admit it. But a cop usually won't pull you over at those speeds because the courts don't hit the jackpot unless they catch you going at least 15 miles over. But be sure to drive the speed limit if, say, you're driving around on Tuesday at 3:00 AM; Bored cops are a whole new menace to the common speeder, let me tell you. :rolleyes: )

End of the month, too, when they have to fulfill their quota. Some cops will pull you over if you're going 9+ over, because that's when the ticket fine increases, though.

[Meltman]

It's the circumstances around the accidents that cause them, whether someone isn't paying attention and swerves into another car/rear ends them, runs a red light, or loses control in bad weather.


...


Well, that's the only time I'll get on someone's ass.


Or tailgating?

A better argument, eh? Hmm, let's go to the professionals.
High Speed Car Collision

Have you ever been in a car accident from speeding too fast? Even though speeding is illegal, it is a very common infraction among drivers. Whether it’s due to necessity or simple recklessness, speeding happens in practically every U.S. road. The problem is, this greatly increases the chances of a high speed car collision by reducing the amount of time a driver has to make quick decisions.


In the year 2000, speeding was a determining factor in 29% of all car accidents. That translates into 12,350 deaths that year. Speed limits aren’t set arbitrarily; they are the result of studies and speed engineering. A few miles above the established maximum increase the risk of a collision exponentially. Something must be done to prevent speeding, including:

Becoming even stricter with police enforcement of speed limits
Campaigning for the dangers of speeding to drivers
Making vehicles safer
Using engineering methods (such as speed bumps) to slow drivers down in roads
Changing speeding attitudes among drivers
Ultimately, the reason why people speed is because they are not completely aware of the dangers of doing so. Driving above the speed limit, even if by just a few miles, can increase the risk of being involved in an accident tremendously. And, needless to say, a high speed car collision can have serious, even fatal, consequences.
http://www.caraccidentattorneys.com/Car-Accident-Attorneys-Library-Speeding.cfm

And if you don't believe lawyers, how about the government?
http://www.tfhrc.gov/safety/speed/speed.htm

Some highlights:
Excessive vehicle speed reduces a driver's ability to negotiate curves or maneuver around obstacles in the roadway, extends the distance necessary for a vehicle to stop, and increases the distance a vehicle travels while the driver reacts to a hazard.

The relationship between vehicle speed and crash severity is unequivocal and based on the laws of physics. The kinetic energy of a moving vehicle is a function of its mass and velocity squared. Kinetic energy is dissipated in a collision by friction, heat, and the deformation of mass. Generally, the more kinetic energy to be dissipated in a collision, the greater the potential for injury to vehicle occupants. Because kinetic energy is determined by the square of the vehicle's speed, rather than by speed alone, the probability of injury, and the severity of injuries that occur in a crash, increase exponentially with vehicle speed. For example, a 30-percent increase in speed (e.g., from 50 to 65 mi/h [80 to 105 km/h]) results in a 69-percent increase in the kinetic energy of a vehicle.

The relationship between travel speed and the severity of injuries sustained in a crash was examined by Solomon (1964), who reported an increase in crash severity with increasing vehicle speeds on rural roads. From an analysis of 10,000 crashes, Solomon concluded that crash severity increased rapidly at speeds in excess of 60 mi/h (96 km/h), and the probability of fatal injuries increased sharply above 70 mi/h (112 km/h).

This is my favorite part:
Of all drivers involved in fatal crashes, young males are the most likely to have speed as a collision factor. In 1995, nearly 40 percent of the fatal crashing involving male drivers 15 to 20 years old were speed related (NHTSA 1995). The relative proportion of speed-related crashes to all crashes decreases with increasing driver age.

Another way to examine the relationship between vehicle speed and traffic safety is to measure the effects of lowering or raising speed limits on the incidence and severity of crashes. Table 3 summarizes the results of studies of this type conducted in several countries. The table shows that crash-incidence or crash severity, or both measures, generally decline whenever speed limits have been reduced. Conversely, the number of crashes or crash severity generally increased when speed limits were raised, especially on freeways.

[Krypto]

Or tailgating?

Or the certain types of people who think they're funny by brake-checking the person that's riding their ass, causing them to wreck?

A better argument, eh? Hmm, let's go to the professionals.

http://www.caraccidentattorneys.com/Car-Accident-Attorneys-Library-Speeding.cfm

And if you don't believe lawyers, how about the government?
http://www.tfhrc.gov/safety/speed/speed.htm

Some highlights:

This is my favorite part:

Some highlights of my own.

Even though speeding is illegal, it is a very common infraction among drivers.This includes people who may only be going 1 mile over the speed limit, or 5 miles over the speed limit. This also includes areas where speed limits may only be 35-45 miles per hour. Speeding is of course a "factor" because about 90% of the people on the road go a little faster than the speed limit anyway. But hell, 29% of ALL accidents is in the minority.

Generally, the more kinetic energy to be dissipated in a collision, the greater the potential for injury to vehicle occupants. Because kinetic energy is...Thanks, but I don't need an article telling me the faster you go, the more dangerous a car crash is. That shows nothing to prove your point, since the point you should be arguing is whether or not people driving under the speed limit in the fast lane are obstructing traffic, and as a result, causing accidents by making people change lanes to go around them, whereas those accidents could have been avoided had the person simply gotten over to let them pass. And before you say something like "Well they shouldn't have to get over" remember that there are signs posted TELLING people "Slower drivers stay to the right".


Of all drivers involved in fatal crashes, young males are the most likely to have speed as a collision factor. In 1995, nearly 40 percent of the fatal crashing involving male drivers 15 to 20 years old were speed related (NHTSA 1995). The relative proportion of speed-related crashes to all crashes decreases with increasing driver age.All this shows is that you have a bunch of retarded kids who just got their cars and are out racing at 2 AM, when they can't even handle their cars at high speeds. I know how that game works. Showing that as evidence is silly because most of those young kids don't even know how to handle their cars properly.


Now then, my evidence? Check out the Autobahn. People in Europe are smart enough to get the **** over when someone's driving fast behind them. Speed limits seem to give stubborn people a sense of entitlement to purposefully go slow when someone else is going faster than them. That's most likely the reason you don't see that happening on the Autobahn. "PFFT, well **** you! I'm going the speed limit, you can slow down!" As opposed to "Oh ****, this guy's going pretty fast behind me, I better get over"

Clearly, it wouldn't work in the US, because the majority of the US population is filled with people who are too stupid to comprehend how things like the Autobahn work, and quite frankly, can't drive for ****. Not to mention the masses of morons stupid enough to read the newspaper, put on makeup, or eat their lunch while driving 60 miles an hour.

[Malibu Sally]

Fascinating how "drives the speed limit" equates to "stupid driver" in this thread. Likewise how "drives above the speed limit" equates to "superior intelligence". All with no credible sources as proof too.

So we have a posted speed limit of 60 mph. One driver is doing said speed limit; one is driving at 80 mph. Who is REALLY the stupid one here?

[Meltman]

That shows nothing to prove your point, since the point you should be arguing is whether or not people driving under the speed limit in the fast lane are obstructing traffic, and as a result, causing accidents by making people change lanes to go around them, whereas those accidents could have been avoided had the person simply gotten over to let them pass.
Actually, my point was 'going too fast is dangerous.'

Oh, and nobody's making them change lanes. There is always the option to...slow down.

remember that there are signs posted TELLING people "Slower drivers stay to the right".


I don't remember seeing a sign that says "the left side has a different speed limit."

So we have a posted speed limit of 60 mph. One driver is doing said speed limit; one is driving at 80 mph. Who is REALLY the stupid one here?

Oooh! Oooh! I know!

[Krypto]

Fascinating how "drives the speed limit" equates to "stupid driver" in this thread. Likewise how "drives above the speed limit" equates to "superior intelligence". All with no credible sources as proof too.

So we have a posted speed limit of 60 mph. One driver is doing said speed limit; one is driving at 80 mph. Who is REALLY the stupid one here?

If that's how you equate the two, then it's just a gross misinterpretation on your part. I'm not saying people who drive the speed limit are stupid drivers, nor am I saying people who drive above have superior intelligence. People backing up traffic when the other lanes are clear, however, ARE stupid.

I don't remember seeing a sign that says "the left side has a different speed limit."

Maybe that's because they understand how things actually work. Hell, cops don't even care if you're going over the speed limit, if you're going with the flow of traffic. The way things work in theory and the way things work in practice are two completely different things. People who can't adapt to that shouldn't be on the road.

There's a minimum speed limit too, but you're not going to get a ticket going 10 miles per hour in stop and go traffic. So does that mean you have to obey the law and go 40 miles per hour (that's what it is here) wrecking into every car in your way? Of course not. It's the same way with people driving slow in the fast lane. You go with the flow of traffic, not against it. If you feel like driving slow, you get over in the right lane.

[Krypto]

Actually, my point was 'going too fast is dangerous.'

Oh, and nobody's making them change lanes. There is always the option to...slow down.

There is, but that's rarely ever the case. And ignoring that and pretending like people are just going to slow down isn't the best point of view. To be a good driver, you need to actually KNOW how things work.

[Meltman]

There isn't always a minimum speed limit, and that's usually only on interstates, anyway.

To be a good driver, you need to actually KNOW how things work.

I know that the faster I go, the harder it is to stop.

And silly me, I thought to be a good driver you have to OBEY TRAFFIC LAWS.

[Malibu Sally]

If that's how you equate the two, then it's just a gross misinterpretation on your part. I'm not saying people who drive the speed limit are stupid drivers, nor am I saying people who drive above have superior intelligence. People backing up traffic when the other lanes are clear, however, ARE stupid.
No... that's how YOU equated them.
Clearly, it wouldn't work in the US, because the majority of the US population is filled with people who are too [i]stupid[/i to comprehend how things like the Autobahn work, and quite frankly, can't drive for ****.
See? So please don't resort to the "you are misinterpreting what I say" mantra. If meant it differently, then it is up to YOU to properly spell out what you mean.




There's a minimum speed limit too, but you're not going to get a ticket going 10 miles per hour in stop and go traffic. So does that mean you have to obey the law and go 40 miles per hour (that's what it is here) wrecking into every car in your way? Of course not. It's the same way with people driving slow in the fast lane. You go with the flow of traffic, not against it. If you feel like driving slow, you get over in the right lane.
Again... it is the passing lane, NOT the fast lane. And if you choose to exceed the speed limit, the onus of taking extra care to avoid a collision is upon you and not the slower driver. If you see someone ahead of you that is slower, ****ing slow down until such time that you can get around them. If that takes 10, 15 20, or even 1000 minutes, too bad.

[Krypto]

There isn't always a minimum speed limit, and that's usually only on interstates, anyway.



I know that the faster I go, the harder it is to stop.

And silly me, I thought to be a good driver you have to OBEY TRAFFIC LAWS.

Unfortunately not. Like I said, how things work in theory, and how things work in practice are completely different things. Communism, for example, is great in theory. Most of the people out on the road don't even KNOW the traffic laws. 90% of the people turning right on a 2 way stop will just sit there and wave you on just because you got there first, because they don't know that 4-way stops and 2-way stops are different.

Sometimes, simply "obeying the traffic laws" isn't always the best way to avoid accidents.

[Malibu Sally]

Most of the people out on the road don't even KNOW the traffic laws. 90% of the people turning right on a 2 way stop will just sit there and wave you on just because you got there first, because they don't know that 4-way stops and 2-way stops are different.
More unsupported "statistics". I can make up numbers too.

[Krypto]

No... that's how YOU equated them.

See? So please don't resort to the "you are misinterpreting what I say" mantra. If meant it differently, then it is up to YOU to properly spell out what you mean.

I said exactly what I meant. Most of the people in the US are too stupid to comprehend how things like the Autobahn work. That includes people who are slow drivers AND people who are fast drivers. Since I didn't specifically point either of those out, it IS a misinterpretation on your part. ;)





Again... it is the passing lane, NOT the fast lane. And if you choose to exceed the speed limit, the onus of taking extra care to avoid a collision is upon you and not the slower driver. If you see someone ahead of you that is slower, ****ing slow down until such time that you can get around them. If that takes 10, 15 20, or even 1000 minutes, too bad.

Oh I know, and I do slowdown. The thing is though, is that people aren't constantly looking in their rear view mirror, so they may not know you were going faster than them if you slow down to their speed. Whereas some people might otherwise get over, sometimes they don't realize that you want them to get over unless you get a little closer.

More unsupported "statistics". I can make up numbers too.

Unsupported, huh? I think my own personal experience supports that well enough. :)

[Malibu Sally]

I said exactly what I meant. Most of the people in the US are too stupid to comprehend how things like the Autobahn work. That includes people who are slow drivers AND people who are fast drivers. Since I didn't specifically point either of those out, it IS a misinterpretation on your part. ;)
No, by leaving one (fast drivers) out of the statement and specifically mentioning the other, you place the burden of stupidity upon the other(slow drivers). So no misinterpretation on my part... it's misrepresentation on your part.


Unsupported, huh? I think my own personal experience supports that well enough.]
"Personal experience" and observations are not proof of anything. You make a claim, then you better be ready with hard data to back it up. Otherwise you are basing your conclusions on faulty evidence.

[Meltman]

Unfortunately not. Like I said, how things work in theory, and how things work in practice are completely different things. Communism, for example, is great in theory. Most of the people out on the road don't even KNOW the traffic laws. 90% of the people turning right on a 2 way stop will just sit there and wave you on just because you got there first, because they don't know that 4-way stops and 2-way stops are different.

Sometimes, simply "obeying the traffic laws" isn't always the best way to avoid accidents.

So, just because most people are idiots, I should act like one? No thanks.

[Krypto]

No, by leaving one (fast drivers) out of the statement and specifically mentioning the other, you place the burden of stupidity upon the other(slow drivers). So no misinterpretation on my part... it's misrepresentation on your part.

This was my statement.

Clearly, it wouldn't work in the US, because the majority of the US population is filled with people who are too stupid to comprehend how things like the Autobahn work, and quite frankly, can't drive for ****. Not to mention the masses of morons stupid enough to read the newspaper, put on makeup, or eat their lunch while driving 60 miles an hour.Nowhere in that statement did I mention fast or slow drivers. The only thing I specified were people who read the newspaper, put on makuep, or eat their lunch while driving at high speeds. Seriously, the majority of the US population isn't very smart. Something like the Autobahn would go way over their heads. You'd have a bunch of idiots who think "SWEET, NO SPEED LIMIT" and crash their car into a wall going 130 miles per hour, and teenagers would have a new spot to drag race. And then you'd have people tailgating other people in the right lane for only going 65 miles per hour, or whatever speed they're comfortable driving at, acting like that person has no right to go that slow.

[Krypto]

To get this thread back on track...what ticks me off are all the "ZOMG don't eat fat, no wait, no carbs! Wait, no TRANS fat! Only eat this many calories per day!" diets. Do you know WHY those carbs turn to fat? IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE LAZY. Here's a tip, instead of starving your body of the nutrients it needs, get your ass off the couch and go to a gym. If your body isn't important enough to pay a small gym fee for (or god forbid, take a WALK) then quit bitching!

[The Widowed]

To get this thread back on track...
Hey! I wanted to see who was winning, damn it! Granted, I lost track of what positions you and Meltman and Sally were arguing about because the quasi-statistical rhetoric all started sounding the same and flowing together.... :P

I'm in favor of abolishing the speed limits and allowing people to mount weapons on their vehicles, Car Wars style! There's our answer to population control, right there. It would open up a whole new market and revitalize the economy, too. "Hi, welcome to Auto Killzone! How may I help you?" "Yes, I'd like four axle-loaded tire slashers, a flamethrower turret with the remote-operated pintle and the Trunk Monkey package, a Trop Dropper, a short-wave radar jammer and two of these Zagnut bars."

Who's with me? >:]

And what ticks me off?

"ZOMG!"

Seriously. Where the fock did that Z come from? O_o

[Akamaz]

teh intarwebs

[WingedAvenger]

o rly?

[Akamaz]

ya rly

[The Widowed]

No Wai!

[Malibu Sally]

Switching game characters to help someone who really needs assistance, and then finding that the mission is almost completed anyway so you get no mission bonus. Then said person quits in the middle of the next mission with lame ass excuses.

[Krypto]

Dude Sally, my cat was on fire. >:O

[Malibu Sally]

Dude Sally, my cat was on fire. >:O
There you go derailing my rant to talk about a burning *****! :P

[The Widowed]

Switching game characters to help someone who really needs assistance, and then finding that the mission is almost completed anyway so you get no mission bonus. Then said person quits in the middle of the next mission with lame ass excuses.
"Hey, Wids! We need help beating up an EB. Can Bloodywedd come out to play?"
"Sure. I have a mayhem mission we can do afterwards. What about you?"
"Oh, we have a bunch of odd missions to run. Freddy here has a mayhem too."
"Cool! Deal me in. See you in a bit."
*switches to Bloodywedd*
*gets on the team to find that the EB is Biff and Bloodywedd outclasses everyone on the team by 6 or 8 levels*
"You guys need me to Mal down for XP?"
"Nah, we just want Biff dead."
"All right."
*steamrolls Biff. Gets nothing while the rest of the team gets a nice fat EoM bonus*
"Cool! gg kthxbye"
*entire team dissolves*
"Goddamnit."

Yeah. Been there, done that. :rolleyes:

[Meltman]

Man, Freddy's an *******.

[The Widowed]

Man, Freddy's an *******.
His Brute was a lackeyed Lvl 21, too. His mayhem mission was in freakin' Skyway City. Feh! I hate that.